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Making CD Audio from ".BIN" files

Topic started by Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on Sun Jun 20 03:09:12 EDT 2004.
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I have downloaded a few songs from various sites - including coolgoose. I need some help though. ".BIN" format , I believe, these are formats of one CDRWIN software. Of course, they are MP3 songs -- But I need them in .WAV format to be played in my home CD box (doesn't playe MP3). First, I need to convert these ".BIN"s to MP3s - and then convert the MP3s to WAVs into CD Audio using my CD-RW drive in my PC.

Apparently, it should be easy, but I may be missing some simple technicality here..

Any help, with step instructions and associated software is very much appreciated.

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• From: deepz (@ 61.2.37.20) on: Sun Jun 20 03:20:59 EDT 2004
  
  sometimes when i download from coolgoose.com it is in .bin format...i thought it was some problem..i never knew they were mp3 songs ??????
  
  
• From: Kum (@ 69.70.91.18) on: Sun Jun 20 04:21:33 EDT 2004
  
  if its from coolgoose, try to rename it with .mp3 and see if it works, otherwise it might probably be an incomplete file.
  
  if its still a .bin file with 20~50MB size,
  then you could read with some daemon tools. but i doubt this, noone would have posted that much size for one song.
  
  hope, if i am any help. :)
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 10:24:48 EDT 2004
  
  The ".BIN" files are just 4-5 MBs. Infact, most of the Coolgoose ones are BIN files. Except for the reason hits (which I didn't download yet!).
  
  Somebody who has done this before should help..
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.101.34.206) on: Sun Jun 20 11:36:43 EDT 2004
  
  btw, by "home CD box" do u mean ur ACD Player? Are u sure it plays Wav files? I'm not too sure...
  
  
• From: Kum (@ 69.70.91.18) on: Sun Jun 20 11:47:47 EDT 2004
  
  change the extension to mp3 dude... rename the myfile.bin to myfile.mp3 and see if it works!
  
  
• From: deepz (@ 61.2.33.202) on: Sun Jun 20 13:08:21 EDT 2004
  
  that dint work for me
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 14:07:52 EDT 2004
  
  That didn't work for me too, Kum. We need to find the right way to do this.
  
  
• From: thops (@ 152.3.249.30) on: Sun Jun 20 14:46:17 EDT 2004
  
  seems like an incomplete download to me...open in wordpad and see what the header says...
  
  
• From: Madrasguy - for thops (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 15:37:59 EDT 2004
  
  I dont think, its an incomplete download. I have downloaded a lot of files in ".BIN"s -- I dont think all of them are incomplete.
  
  Somebody who has done this before should know more.
  
  
• From: thops (@ 152.3.249.30) on: Sun Jun 20 15:53:08 EDT 2004
  
  what does the header say ??
  
  
• From: thops (@ 152.3.249.30) on: Sun Jun 20 15:56:11 EDT 2004
  
  one possibility is it could be a MacBinary archive...try stuffit expander available at http://www.aladdinsys.com/
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 16:24:51 EDT 2004
  
  Thops, I did some digging and found out that "BIN"s are Binary files having the data 'content' the same as CDs. And I believe, there is a "CUE" file which will accordingly "track" these BINs. BINs without CUEs have no value -- as BINs are just data, CUEs file guides the CDWriter to accordingly place the BINs.
  
  Still, somebody who has done this before should know more and can help us better.
  
  
• From: thops (@ 24.163.66.143) on: Sun Jun 20 19:16:15 EDT 2004
  
  the BIN files you are talking about will be huge - similar size as a WAV...since you said they are 4-5MB i don't think are in the CD burning BIN format...
  
  did you look at the file header (first bytes of the file)...they typically tell you everything about the file format...open it in wordpad and see what the header says...i think mp3s have ID3 tags at the beginning...
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 20:04:05 EDT 2004
  
  First, appreciate your help.
  
  I tried opening thru WordPad. The first bytes have indeed have ID3 as beginning, so they are indeed MP3 files. You are right there!
  
  The fact it is MP3 - is something I knew, 'casue WAV files are generally 40-50MBs, whereas MP3s are around 5MB.
  
  These are BIN files. BIN files are normally CD images (not photo images, but CD data images) as ripped from CD thru a CD ripper software (basically taking tracks out of CD AS IT IS). So a BIN file is a basically a data file straight out of a CD. It could be a MP3 (of course, in this case, it is) or a WAV. You can't staright away make that out by looking at the BIN file.
  
  I will try once again with just renaming part i.e. .BIN to .MP3 - but it didn't work for me earlier. A few here have said the same.
  
  I believe, since BINs are ripped out of CD - these BIN files are to be assembled back using a software (mounting to a CD) using as I said above, a CUE file.
  
  Still doing more analysis..
  
  Somebody who has done this before, can help.
  
  
• From: thops (@ 24.163.66.143) on: Sun Jun 20 21:15:40 EDT 2004
  
  if you don't mind could you email me one of these BIN files ??
  
  
• From: Kum (@ 69.70.91.18) on: Sun Jun 20 21:33:51 EDT 2004
  
  thops, do not waste your time dude!
  
  if the file was downloaded from coolgoose, and it doesnt work on changing extension, its probably incomplete! coolgoose keeps their binary files in database(strangely), and they get d/c often during transfer or near the end of transfer.
  
  If the files were from coolgoose, the files can be re-downloaded somewhere around anyways....
  
  
• From: thops (@ 24.163.66.143) on: Sun Jun 20 21:40:01 EDT 2004
  
  Kum - i am positive it is an incomplete download too, but i want to try and see if there is any way of repairing such files...ellam aaruva kolaaru thaan...
  
  
• From: Kum (@ 69.70.91.18) on: Sun Jun 20 21:43:47 EDT 2004
  
  lol..appo seri sir.
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 23:25:28 EDT 2004
  
  Thops, first appreciate your enthusiasm. And your willingness to help others. I thought, this is what this forum is meant for and why I wrote up this topic.. Great to see, someone who has inclination to help.
  
  I will forward the file to you. The feedback from the Coolgoose users are 5* and I didn't download 1/2 songs - I downloaded nerly 80 songs and almost 65-70 of them are BIN files. I highly doubt, they are incomplete files. Again, JMHO. 'course, I can be wrong also.
  
  I will just try to repeat what I said above. BIN files are created using a CD ripper software which rips (takes out) CD tracks into "ditto" data files (BINs) and CUEs (which say how these data is to be assembled).
  
  Google on BIN/CUE files , you will have ton of information.
  
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Sun Jun 20 23:58:36 EDT 2004
  
  On second thoughts, how do you send a 5MB file thru email ?
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.101.36.230) on: Mon Jun 21 00:00:38 EDT 2004
  
  send the coolgoose link, then. :)
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Mon Jun 21 00:04:09 EDT 2004
  
  On second thoughts, how do you send a 5MB file thru email ?
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Mon Jun 21 00:06:54 EDT 2004
  
  Thats a good idea.
  
  Here's the link:
  http://www.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=94695
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Mon Jun 21 00:10:00 EDT 2004
  
  One more:
  
  http://web.music.coolgoose.com/music/song.php?id=86378
  
  
• From: thops (@ 152.3.196.69) on: Mon Jun 21 00:34:39 EDT 2004
  
  what is the size of the "chitthirai sevvanam" song you have downloaded ?? it should be 3,971,158 bytes..."chinna pura ondru" should be 4,427,798 bytes..
  
  BIN is probably just a file name extension coolgoose chose specifically for their scripts to handle...trust me - it has nothing to do with the other BIN/CUE your are talking about...i have burnt CDs from BINs & CUEs...they wont be 4MB...they are huge...
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Mon Jun 21 00:39:02 EDT 2004
  
  Mine is a little different. I probably would hv downloaded from a different version of the same song. Not much different, though - its right abt the same size!
  
  So, you say to just rename it to Mp3 and convert it to WAV using a(ny) MP3--> WAV converter; and thats abt it?
  
  (That would be great, then!)
  
  
• From: Kum (@ 69.70.91.18) on: Mon Jun 21 00:40:52 EDT 2004
  
  I am 90% sure the bin format coolgoose use is a temporary format until the file finish streaming(downloading). For Ex: if you look at the actual link to source it looks like
  
  http://s5.music.coolgoose.com/download/music/94695/ChitthiraSevvaanam.bin&song.94695.40d666b4267d3cfd
  
  Thats a bin file (source)
  
  Only at the end it changes the extension to mp3 as the final bytes arrive.(destination)
  
  thats why i believe the bin files are incomplete downloads missing some final parts. You can read headers though...(mp3 id tags)
  
  By the way, thanks for thos song links! also what i wrote is purely my intuition..may be wrong.
  
  the mp3s should work on renaming if they doesnt the files are no use.
  
  
• From: thops (@ 152.3.196.69) on: Mon Jun 21 01:27:53 EDT 2004
  
  madrasguy - so how many bytes are missing?? i am 100% sure what you have is an incomplete download...
  
  BTW these two songs have only the version 1 of the ID3 tag which appears at the end of the file, unlike the version 2 ID3 which appears at the beginning...so if you look at the header of the file you will not see any useful information...if you have an incomplete download then you probably wont see the ID3 tag at the end...
  
  
• From: Madrasguy (@ 4.10.79.74) on: Mon Jun 21 01:33:21 EDT 2004
  
  How do you make out it's an incomplete download ?
  I am using a software to check any repairs on the MP3 (not sure it will check incompleteness tho).
  
  To answer your queries, my files are larger than yours :(-
  
  

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