Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
Neel's VJ Songs
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- From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67)
on: Mon Feb 3 03:21:36 EST 2003
CV, Ilayarani rajalakshmi is not Jai's 100th movie. that would be Taxi Driver. But there was a minor controversy that Jai wrapped up " idhayam pesugirathu" or " idhayam parkirathu" fast - Rem yaanayin balam ethile thumbikaiinile manithanoda....-as he wanted taxi driver to be the 100th film. I remember the incident because it was peculiar even here Jai did the producer a favour by wrapping the movie quickly therby reducing the production cost! No wonder even MGR could not wipe him off completely - remember Murattu kaalai & AVM!
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Mon Feb 3 03:33:13 EST 2003
Vengayam
Taxi driver was 150th i think.It was produced by Jackpot Srinivasan who then moved on to make Dharmayuddham with RC Shakthi.
With Iravum pagalum in 1965 and with a name "Vellikizhamai Jaishankar" (he had a release every friday!) he would not have required to wait till 1978 to get his 100.
But still i cant recollect his 100th.
- From: naaz (@ 24.87.28.203)
on: Mon Feb 3 09:38:43 EST 2003
Wasn't "Vandikkaran Magan" Jaishankar's 100th film? The one penned by Karunanidhi, with that wonderful duet "Medaiyil Aadidum"? Or am I way off the mark?
- From: naaz (@ 24.87.28.203)
on: Mon Feb 3 10:21:07 EST 2003
Saravanan -
Thanks!
Your commitment to TFM is the main reason this thread (among others)keeps going...Please continue your marvellous chronology. The list of solos (in my possession) has about 250 odd songs. I'll post them if you think they will aid you. Of course, there will be a bit of duplication with susi and siva's lists, not to mention Neel's webpage list.
Will wait for your word on this.
- From: rk (@ 203.106.136.16)
on: Mon Feb 3 10:54:14 EST 2003
who is the director for the movie ilayarani rajaletchumi.
- From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 195.188.191.69)
on: Mon Feb 3 11:01:17 EST 2003
Saravanan, I can recollect 'mAlai malar pantha itta nEram', a great duet by SPB-VJ in 'akkA'. What are the other songs in the movie ? Were they any good ?
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.232)
on: Mon Feb 3 13:33:28 EST 2003
SL- 'Kannan koyil paravai ithu'(Akka) is simply an awesome classic(al) song- please, please listen to it- you have really missed a wonderful MSV composition if you haven't heard it so far- I have written about this song (with the lyrics)earlier in this thread- in the 1976 coverage.
Another good VJ solo from Akka is 'Nilavu theivathu valarvatharkaaga, nee arivaai kanne'.
Naaz- you are too kind! I am sure I alone couldn't have continued without the support, encouragement and contributions of so many others.
Sorry all- I seem to have goofed up on the numbering- konjam touch vittu Pochu:))- these 4 songs should have been numbered 131, 132, 133 and 134.
- From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18)
on: Tue Feb 4 11:48:13 EST 2003
Hey guys,
I am looking for a song sung by vani jayaram, i can only remember part of it. I think the music is by IR and the song was in the early 90s, it goes like this,
Unai thalathe all illaya, alli siratte yar illaiya
it is a thalatu song. have anyone heard this song before, if so please let me know. Thanks
- From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18)
on: Tue Feb 4 11:52:30 EST 2003
another beautiful solo by vani is Anna un ithayam Naan kanum ulagham naan padhum ragam nee thantha pasam. Movie: Annalakshmi
- From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67)
on: Tue Feb 4 23:37:58 EST 2003
Oisg,
Ilayarani rajalakshmi if i remember came after taxi Driver. If this is the srividya starrer directed by ra sankaran the movie we are talking about. This followed the moderate sucess of Rowdy rakamma( KSG). Srividya tried to do a Kr Vijaya ( remember Asoka bros & movies with KRV as hero & heroes like Jai ganesh as heroines!!) and came a cropper. But who will finally come out with jai's authentic 100th movie.
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Wed Feb 5 00:05:47 EST 2003
Vengayam
Jai Ganesh as heroine...nice one!Rememeber Sivaji s joke on Jai Ganesh
JG : Anne! Aatukkara Alamelu paduthula naan herova nadikkiren!
Sivaji : Nee Aada ella Alameluva?
I think Naaz s "Vandikkaran Magan" holds promise to be Jai s 100th.
- From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67)
on: Wed Feb 5 03:29:14 EST 2003
OISG
Vanikkaran magan also came in 1978.As did taxi driver acc to you.I remember seeing V Magan to a packed theatre (Saligram Rajendra I believe) in its sixth week. A little bit of arm twisting from the CM ensured the movie did not enjoy a 50 day run anywhere!
Maybe I. rajalakshmi was Srividhya's 100th movie. Idhu epaddi irukku?
- From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.211)
on: Wed Feb 5 04:27:17 EST 2003
Vengayam,
I am not sure if Srividya has touched the magic figure of 100! (May be if you add her Malayalam numbers and some TV serials!)
- From: SL (@ 195.188.191.69)
on: Wed Feb 5 05:16:39 EST 2003
Saravanan, thanks.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.28.203)
on: Wed Feb 5 09:42:24 EST 2003
Vengayam -
Asoka Bros. "hero"ines included Mohan (Nadagame Ulagam) Muthuraman (Annapurani). I distinctly remember the poster for Vandikaran Magan outside my school's gate announcing it as Makkal Kalaignar's 100th padam...couldn't have been 100-vadhu naal as the film didn't get there...I don't think!
Susi, I am drawing a blank on the 90s song by VJ for IR. Saravanan would have the answer to all these...now if only he'd show up and present the UNdeniable proof! :-)
- From: Anonymous :-) (@ 132.206.52.76)
on: Wed Feb 5 22:57:45 EST 2003
Dearest Vani Jairam fans,
Go to MIO (if you don't know what MIO is, I am sorry for you :-)). Go to Hindi films and to a "certain" film beginning with the letter G. Scroll downwards CAREFULLY (note CAREFULLY) on the appropriate web-page. You will get something you wanted for a loooong time. I had forgotten to mention about this song before to you all. But I prefer to be a bit cryptic here :-)
Secondly, browse this web-page in detail.
http://www/sawf.org/rajan
This thing is not completely related to Vani Jairam. I am posting it here as the dedication, genius, sheer knowledge of the author of this site amazes me and I bow before him. It is basically a site on classical music written in **exquisite** English. It introduces raagas to the novice and would probably re-introduce them even to an expert. Rare and indeed enchanting clips from pure classical recitals film songs, bhajans, bhavgeet, ghazal are also available on this site. Most of the songs are by Lata, Asha, Rafi, Manna Dey and Mukesh. But there are 2-3 songs by Vani as well.
Besides the pure classical maetsroes (singers as well as instrumentalists).
The songs on this site and the descriptions of the raagas will put you into a trance. [Warning though: there are a couple of very disturbing remarks on people from 2 states in India! (thankfully not Tamil Nadu). I belong to one of those states. But I repeat that the site is a connoisseur's delight. So much so that those remarks are worth overlooking.]
There is a smaller section on Carnatic music as well, written again beuatifully and full of sample clips, but by a different author.
My life would have been poorer if I hadn't found this site. I should've shared the link with you guys earlier.
Ciao!
- From: Anonymous :-) (@ 132.206.52.76)
on: Wed Feb 5 23:02:24 EST 2003
There is a small error in the URL I posted.
- From: naaz (@ 24.87.28.203)
on: Sun Feb 9 11:29:01 EST 2003
In a follow-on (brief) conversation with VJ after the interview was webcast (at the VJ webpage) there was this contextual note she offered regarding the omitted song from Guddi:
The Meera Bhajan, Hari Bin Kaise Jeeyon Ri, was part of the film in its first week of release in the New Delhi cinemas. But, seven days later, the song was replaced (cf.interview) with Aa Jaa Re Pardesi from Madhumati. For those who are interested in how this was managed: A few close-ups of Jaya mouthing the madhumati lines, and most of the song in the "original" (Hari Bin) long-shots. A nip, a snip and some hasty lip-sync...
Meera and VJ were out. Madhu and Lata were in.
Ah! The movies!
PS: Thanks to anonymous for this interesting link. As all three songs (now) from Guddi prove - it was a debut that was nothing short of a tour de force.
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Mon Feb 10 03:50:49 EST 2003
I saw yesterday the "saptha swarangal" in Vijay TV. It was a collection of Best of 2002. One of the episodes (i think semi finals for male), VJ was the judge. In the final round, the competitor has to sing with the judge. 2 lovely songs Andhamaanai paarungal azhagu, Vasantha kala nadhigalile...were the 2 duets. VJ sung effort lessly with lots of sweet and melody. She appeared very weak but her voice was still young and melodious :-)
- From: naaz (@ 24.87.28.203)
on: Mon Feb 10 12:01:19 EST 2003
I have no way of knowing how many posters here log on to the VJ songs webpage...Neel has uploaded some amazing tamizh devotionals from VJs recent albums...If you value tamizh, divine singing, and excellence in every sense you will find these songs to meet and exceed all your expectations. Have a listen!
- From: peeps (@ 12.162.224.5)
on: Mon Feb 10 13:31:28 EST 2003
Subbu,
I think u r mentioning abt 'Aboorva Raagangal' and not 'Saptha Swarangal'..rite?:-)
- From: Subbu (@ 216.52.49.5)
on: Tue Feb 11 06:05:38 EST 2003
Peeps, u r correct. It was 'Aboorva Raagangal' in Vijay TV.
- From: susi (@ 216.209.200.18)
on: Fri Feb 14 12:29:28 EST 2003
Hey Guys,
Would anyone happens to know which movie the below song belongs to??
Yen Yendru Solvenendi Ilamai Yelilodhu Pirenthenedi Neeradum yen meni Nilavodu Nigarana Alagendru solvenedi.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.232)
on: Fri Feb 14 14:23:36 EST 2003
-1978 Part 4-
In this episode, let us recall three lovely songs that Vani sang for MSV- and all from the same film. The film that marked the end of a glorious career of an unparalleled Icon of tamil film history- Yes. I am talking about Soleeswar Combines’ Maduraiyai Meeta Sundarapandiyan.
The life and times of Marudur Gopalamenon Ramachandran (1917-1987) seem straight from the pages of a Hans Christian Anderson or Grimms Brothers’ fairy tale. Born in a poverty-stricken family in Kandy, Sri Lanka, he rose to the position of the Chief Minister of Tamilnadu. However, nothing came to him in a silver platter- he had to struggle all the way- but he had the vision to dream, and the single-minded determination to transfer his dreams to reality.
He was 6 when he joined the Madurai Original Boys theatre group. His first film was Sathi Leelavathi-1936. But he got his first major break much later in Rajakumari-1947.
It was the era of singing stars, and MGR found the going tough, as he could not sing.
However, from the mid-50s, with TMS as his singing voice, he rose to unprecedented heights of fame and success. His association with the DMK made him a political force to reckon with. He never forgot his humble origins, and perhaps that is one reason why he would always feel for the poor and the downtrodden and did his best to improve their lot. To them, he will always remain their ‘Idhaya Deivam’, ‘Makkal Thilagam’ and ‘Puratchi Thalaivar’, and he is forever enshrined in their hearts.
Maduraiyai Meetta Sundarapandiyan, based on Akilan’s Kayal Vizhi, was some years in the making and was released in 1978, thus earning the distinction of being MGR’s last film. (Of course, there were a couple of unfinished ventures Anne Nee En Deivam, Nalladhai Naadu Kettkum etc, and Bhagyaraj used a part of the footage for his Avasara Police 100-1990). In fact, MGR was keen to continue acting even after becoming the CM, but the then Prime Minister, Morarji Desai, asked him to refrain from doing so.
MGR was 60 years old when he acted in MMSP, and though his physique was awesome as ever, the wrinkles on his face belied his age. I think I have read somewhere that BR Pandhulu was the director initially, but since he passed way halfway, MGR himself directed the film. MGR’s co-stars were Latha and Padmapriya. (Latha’s performance in the film fetched her the TN State Govt. Award for the Best Actress 1977-78). The film also bagged the TN Govt.’s ‘Sirappu Parisu’ for 1977-78.
I have seen the film on TV as a child, but remember only the impressive war scenes.
The other songs in the film were ‘Veera magan poraada’- TMS & PS and ‘Thaayagathin sudhandhiramey’-TMS (both by Muthulingam). The story goes that MGR wanted KJY to sing ‘Thaayagathin Sidhanthiramey’ too, but MSV insisted that the song needed TMS’s “veeryam” and got his way too.
135. Thendralil aadum koondhalil- Maduraiyai Meeta Sundarapandiyan- KJY- MSV
This lovely unforgettable duet featured MGR and Latha.
KJY:Thendraliaadum koondhalilkanden mazhaikkonda megam-
en devadhai amudham sindhidum neram ini enna naanam
ini enna naanam
ini enna naanam?
VJ: Mannavan ungal ponnudalandro Indiralogam-
andhimaalaiyail andha Maaranin Kanaiyil yen indha vegam-
yen indha vegam?!
KJY:Paavai udal paarkkadalil -
palli kola naan varavo?
Pani sindhum-- kani konjum-
poovidhazhil then peravo?
VJ: Maalai varum neramellaam
mannan vara kaathirundhen
Vazhiyengum-- vizhi vaithu-
paartha vizhi poothirundhen!
KJY:Aalilayin orathiley,
megalaiyin naadhathiley-
iravendrum pagalendrum
kaadhal manam paarpathundo?
VJ: Kalla vizhi mogathiley-
thulli vandha vegathiley
idhazh sindhum- kavi vannam -
kaalai varai ketppathundo,
Kaalai varai ketppathundo?!
KJY:Karpagathucholaiyiley-
pootha malar nee allavo-
vizhiyennum karuvandu-
paada vandha paatennavo?
VJ: Kaaviyathu nayaganin-
kattazhagu maarbiniley
sugam enna sugamendru
mohana pann paadiyatho-
mohana pann paadiyatho
Classic lyrics by Pulamaipithan. Pulamaipithan (Iyarppeyar: Ramaswami) was foremost among the lyricists promoted by MGR. He showed his mettle in his very first song- the meaningful ‘Naan yaar naan yaar nee yaar’- Kudiyirundha Kovil, and continued to impress with his artistry with words. His was a regular name in the credits of MGR films. MGR honored him by making him a member of the Legislative Council and also appointed him as the Poet Laureate (Arsavai Kavignar). Pulamaipithan is now again in the news- Jayalalitha has appointed him AIADMK’s Headquarters’ Secretary.
Pulamaipithan won the TN Govt. Best Lyricist Award for 1977-78, for his works in MMSP.
The song is said to be based on Aarabhi ragam. A melodious composition by MSV and mellifluously rendered by two classically trained singers. (Incidentally, KJY bagged the TN Govt’s Award for the Best Playback Singer for 1977-78). The song begins with attractive notes on the flute and veenai. No two charanams sound similar- and each one is distinctly appealing. The two singers add so much beauty by their briga-laden rendition. VJ scintillates throughout- particularly memorable are her ‘Vazhi engum vizhi vaithu’ and ‘Kaalai varai ketpathundo’
136.Amudha tamizhil ezhuthum kavithai- Maduraiyai Meeta Sundarapandiyan- JC-MSV
Another captivating duet, this one filmed on MGR and Padmapriya.
VJ: Amudha thamizhil ezhuthum kavithai-
pudhumai pulavan nee!
Puvi arasarkulamum vanangum pugazhin-
Puratchi thalaivan nee,
Puratchi thalaivan nee!
JC: Idhazhil ezhudhi vizhiyil padikkum-
kavithai nayamum nee-
Siru idaiyil ulagin sugathai unarthum-
vilakka uraiyum nee
vilakka uraiyum nee!
VJ: Naanam oru puramum-
asai oru puramum
nenjil midhappadhenna;
Unnai oru kanamum-
ennai maru kanamum
ullam ninaipathenna
ullam ninaippathenna?
JC: Naadham isaithuvarum-
paadha manichilambu
ennai azhaippathenna;
Oonjal asainthuvarum-
neela vizhi irandin
vannam sivappathenna?!
VJ: Ethukai adhu unadhu-
irukkai adhu enadhu
pennmai aadattume!
JC: Oru kai kuzhal thazhuva-
marukkai udal thazhuva
inbam thedattume
inbam theduttame!
VJ: Vaikai ennai nerungi-
vaikai anai Madurai
vaigai anai polavey
JC: Mangai enum amudha-
Gangai peruguvadhu
neendhi karaikkaanavey!
Paaliyath Jayachandran is a singer whose voice is forever enchanting. Though a Malayali, his Tamizh is flawless. A contemporary of giants like KJY and SPB, he could never make it to the top like them. Nonetheless, he has sung some unforgettable songs, and for many fans like me, he will rank among our very favorite singers. Of late his career seems to got a fresh lease of life, with ARR giving him some excellent songs.
Though he was quietly making waves in the 70s, he very rarely got to sing for the reigning stars of the day. Whilst he never sang for Sivaji Ganesan (except the lovely asareeri ‘Nenjil ulla kaayam ondru’-Rishimoolam), he sang two songs for MGR- one was ‘Ethanai manidhargal’-Needhikku Thalai Vanangu and the other was this ‘Amudha thamizhil’.
The song is said to based on Dwijavanthi Ragam. Raagathoda peyarey ivvalavu inimayaaga irikkirathey, appo indha raagathil amaindha paadal evvalavo inimayaaga irukkum? Irukkiradhu! Again, lovely wordplay by Pulamaipithan. A song where the lyrics, music and voices sit together is spellbinding sync.
137.Mangalam pongum- Maduraiyai Meetta Sundarapandiyan- MSV
A enthralling ‘dance’ song, probably filmed on Latha, who was trained in classical dance.
Mangalam pongum Manithamizhnaadu-
pugazh manathodu kadhir poley vaazhiya needu!
Sangamam kanda kaviththira naadu-
Engal sandhana thamizhukku veredhu eedu?!
Innisai thendral kaaviyam paada-
pudhu ezhilodu malar poothu solaiyilaada;
Penngal sirikka muththukkal thirakka-
Uyar pennmayin karpenum theekkanal parakka!
Anbu malarndhida panbu valarndhida aramey vaazhga!
Thennai sezhithida kannal thazhaithida thiruvey vaazhga!
Thandai kulungida thaalam muzhangida kalaiye vaazhga!
Nenju magizhndhida konjum pasunkili thamizhey vaazhga!
Senthamizhey vaazhga!
Bharatha kalaiye vaazhga!
Over the years, singers have been tested with such ‘dance’ songs, and many have come out with flying colours. DK Pattamal’s ‘Theeradha vilayattu pillai’, NC Vasanthakokilam’s ‘Eppo Varuvaaro’, MLV’s ‘Paarkkadal alai meley’, PA Periyanayagi’s ‘Neeli magan nee allavo’, TS Bagavathi’s ‘Pollathanathai enna solven kanna’, AP Komala’s ‘Varavendaam endru sollu’, P Leela’s ‘Kaathiruppaan Kamalakkannan’, TV Rathinam’s ‘Govindan kuzhalosai keleer’, Soolamangalam Rajalakshmi’s ‘Kaana kann kodi vendum’, Ravvu Balasaraswathi’s ‘Thangam pongum’, MS Rajeswari’s ‘Bharatha naattikkinai Bharatha nadey’, (Radha) Jayalakshmi’s ‘Aadinaal nadam aadinaal’, SJ’s ‘Kannan mananilayaiyai thangamey thangam’, PS’s ‘Mannavan vandhaanadi’- are all outstanding examples of songs of this kind.
Of course, VJ also stamps her class all over this short enchanting song. She would go on to sing some more such memorable dance songs in the coming years. The jingle of anklets is heard throughout the song, adding to its appeal. Another female voice is heard, singing the swift jathis. Wonder why MSV chose someone else for the jathis, considering how superbly VJ herself could sing them, as amply evident in that awesome song ‘Thottilil thodangidum thaalaattu’-Kanne Kaniyamudhey. Nevertheless, there some contrasting allure in VJ singing the lines and that slightly gruff female voice singing the jathis in between.
- Vani-Visu vignettes of 1978 to continue-
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.232)
on: Fri Feb 14 14:26:56 EST 2003
Susi- that lovely song is from Ninaipathu Niraiverum. Music: ML Srikanth
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