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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.9.170.105) on: Mon Sep 22 06:52:23 EDT 2003
  
  one more similar decent song is "kuthu villakeriya" from "Pachai Villaku". that song was also picturized with Vijayakumari and SSR. It is a first night song. She is waiting for him and no sign of him entering the room. She makes an attempt by singing a pleasent song and she gets a decent response from him. If the same sequence is there in contemporary movies...............No need to explain. Kannath thorakanummmm saaaaaaamyyy.
  
  
• From: Senty (@ 167.213.190.133) on: Mon Sep 22 09:58:59 EDT 2003
  
  Naaz...
  try this.install any of the TSC fonts....go to the Tools/internet options in the browser... click the font button.give the language script as user defined... and on the web page font select the TSC font that u have installed.that should fix it.. if some letters are not getting displayed properly try with different TSC font...
  
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Mon Sep 22 10:14:49 EDT 2003
  
  Senty-
  
  Thank you for your suggestion/instruction. I will follow it to a T. Hope it leads to Tamizh! :-)
  
  bb-
  A soothing, evocative song. Thanks. (After I listened to SOTD, this song followed in a sequence...Thuyiladha Pennondru Kandaen...Ennaallum... (PBS/SJ, right?) and also for VK and SSR??
  
  
• From: S Ramaswamy (@ 203.94.225.191) on: Mon Sep 22 10:51:21 EDT 2003
  
  Hi Naaz,
  
  Thuyiladha penn onru kanden is from the sridhar-directed film Meenda Sorgam and sung beautifully by AMR and PS, MD is Chalapathy Rao. It's one of the most loved duets by Kannadasan himself. Among the selected songs he had picked to go in on a 33 r p m record with other songs such as 'ennai yaar endru', 'vaazha ninaithal vaazhalam', 'neerodum vaigaiyile nindradum meene' etc.
  
  
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Mon Sep 22 11:27:38 EDT 2003
  
  S Ramaswamy -
  
  Thank you for the corrections and the correct details. I am awed by the simplicity of the songs, the sincerety of the singing, and the poetic profundity of these yesteryear songs.
  Along with Thuyiladha Pennondru, my cherished duets from that era are: Thangaradham Vandhandhu Vedhiyile, Parththaen Siriththaen Pakkanvara, Indha Mandraththil Odi Varum, Aththaan Enaththaan,
  Yaar Yaar Yaar Avar Yaaro, Aththikkaai Kaai Kaai, Aadondru Ponaal Vayadhonru Pogum, Mullaimalar Mele Moikkum Vandu Pole...
  I don't prefer these songs for the memories attached to them. I prefer them for their immortal appeal and their essential tamizh-ness. Of course, singing excellence is the hallmark of all these songs.
  
  
• From: S Ramaswamy (@ 203.94.225.191) on: Mon Sep 22 11:35:39 EDT 2003
  
  Hi Naaz,
  
  I agree with u cent per cent. Those were the days when melody ruled, unlike the current ones when noise rules the roost.
  
  
  
• From: SP (@ 65.69.81.2) on: Mon Sep 22 17:01:11 EDT 2003
  
  SOTD request:
  "en kanmaniye kanmaniye solluvathai kaelu" from Chinna Vaathiyaar
  
  dialogue-leye paattu. SPB rasichu paadiruppaar. Rohini voice correct-a suit aagum.
  
  Chinna chinna expression kooda correct-a panniruppaanga. like "hello, can you give me lift"-nu sollittu oru "sigh" nallaa irukkum.
  
  paattu illeenna sollunga, anuppi vaikkiren.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Tue Sep 23 02:09:03 EDT 2003
  
  anuppunga, SP. balaji_cheenu at yahoo.com.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.176.52) on: Tue Sep 23 02:09:18 EDT 2003
  
  Song of the Day: kaNNaa varuvaayaa from manadhil urudhi vENdum.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kannaa.rm
  
  - Sung by KJY and Chithra. Music by Ilayaraja.
  
  - This melodious song in a K.Balachandar movie is one of two good songs in this movie, the other being "sangath thamizhk kaviyE". The song, set in gowri manohari, IMO pales in comparison with two great songs set by IR in this raagam, dhooraththil naan kaNda un mugam and pon vaanam panneer thoovuthu innEram. Wonder who the lyricist for this song is (Vaali?). Chitra's diction is superb in this song (as it usually is).
  
  - The film itself was loosely a rehash of the working girl of avaL oru thodarkathai, I think, with an additional romantic angle. The film launched the acting careers of SPB, Vivek and Ramesh Arvind.
  
  - Lyrics here: http://www.newtfmpage.com/tfsa/english/songs/manaurud.htm
  
  - For a whole bunch of Kaadhalal Yengi Thavikkum Paadalgal: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/7734.2495.23:09:38.html
  
  - Thread on Kannan songs: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/18270.13048.21:22:46.html
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Tue Sep 23 02:19:31 EDT 2003
  
  bb,
  
  vaalee-thaan :-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.51.215.28) on: Tue Sep 23 02:21:55 EDT 2003
  
  "The song, set in gowri manohari, IMO pales in comparison with two great songs set by IR in this raagam, dhooraththil naan kaNda un mugam and pon vaanam panneer thoovuthu innEram"
  
  Then , why is this song SOTD? Because the other two have already been featured? :-)
  
  Sangath thamizh kaviye was the pick of the album.
  
  Talking of Gowrimanohari, "oru kaaviyam arangerum"(Aruvadai Naal) and "bhoopalam isaikkum"(thooral ninnu pochchu) were also good ones
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Tue Sep 23 02:24:16 EDT 2003
  
  >>>> one of two good songs in this movie
  
  Hmmm ... I feel it should be three atleast, 'kaNNin maNiyae, kaNNin maNiyae poraattamaa' was a wonderful song - very well sung by Chitra and beautiful lyrics by vaalee !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.6) on: Tue Sep 23 03:23:03 EDT 2003
  
  first and second Charanams hav diff tunes in this song.
  I jus love the first charanam..too good..
  
  
• From: raj (@ 202.54.137.28) on: Tue Sep 23 03:44:12 EDT 2003
  
  a Very nice song
  
  Awesome lyrics by Vaali ... Decent Portrayal by Suhasini & Sreedhar.
  
  IR's Music is enchanting
  
  Thanks for the song
  
  Chitra's voice is a apt choice
  
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Tue Sep 23 06:22:07 EDT 2003
  
  bb, there is an endless tirade of GowriManohari based songs from IR of various hues and they are amazing melodies. Sample these
  Kannan naalum podum vesham - Ilamai kolam(with a superb initial humming by SJ)
  Poove panipoove - from Nilavu suduvathillai
  Solai poovil malai thenral - Vellai roja
  Santhana kaatre - Thanikaatu raaja
  Paadum vaanampaadi - naan paadum paadal
  Then poove poove vaa - Anbulla Rajnikanth
  Thenralai kandu kol maane - Nilave mugham kaatu
  Undan raajiyathil - Aandaan adimai, must be his latest one.
  
  
• From: Bala (@ 199.67.138.75) on: Tue Sep 23 06:27:31 EDT 2003
  
  Aren't all the songs in "manadhil urudhi Vendum' were by PulamaiPithan?
  
  Balaji
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.12) on: Tue Sep 23 07:01:45 EDT 2003
  
  Illai, Bala, Manathil Urudhi Vendum-1987 came after IR's break with Vairamuthu, and had all songs by Vali.
  
  The only KB film to have all songs by Pulamaipithan was Azhagan.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74) on: Tue Sep 23 07:40:41 EDT 2003
  
  Saravanan,
  
  Do you think "Unnaal Mudiyum Thambi" had all songs by pulamaip piththan ??? (I know 'enna samaiyaloo' lyrics by IR ... other songs, not sure !)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Cinema Virumbi (@ 203.197.220.195) on: Tue Sep 23 07:42:39 EDT 2003
  
  
  bb,
  
  There's one more decent song in 'manathil uRuthi vENdum' by KJY. 'adi vangaaLak kadalE, enna unnaasa vidalE,enga akkaavin magaLE, unna mukkaalum thodalE, enna maamaannuthaan kooppidaNumthaanE, oru maamaangamaak kaaththirukkEn naanE!'......'adi sORethu neerEthu un nyaabagam adi thaangaathu thoongaathu en vaalibam....'
  
  
• From: senty (@ 167.213.190.133) on: Tue Sep 23 09:10:39 EDT 2003
  
  cinema virumbi.. let ,e try to fill the ..... :)
  
  pottaney banam, poon malai neram
  athadi raavum pagallum thookam varaley
  paaladu thenum , epothum venum
  ammadi naanum keetu nee than tharaley
  kalorum maney maney munnadi naney
  ................................
  sorethu neerethu un nyaabagam,
  adi thangathu thoongathu en valibam
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 195.229.241.170) on: Tue Sep 23 09:31:31 EDT 2003
  
  Myhtila
  
  The Cminor scale in WCM corresponds to Kirvani...thats the general theory.As per Prof.Sambhamurthy it is actually the Gauri-Nata melam( 1604 melam in his raga structure with Aarohanam in GM and avarohanam in natabhairavi).Being a well trained WCM IR s general affinity towards CMinor scale has resulted in plenty of Kirvani,GM and then natabhairavi scale.Just proves another point that how good he is at the theory of music.
  
  MSV too has his share of GM,like Malare kuriji malare,Oru aalayam agum (sumathi en dundari -You will get the same feel as Dhoorathil naan kanda).Even Ammnai from Avan oru sarithiram set in Dharmavathy (the prati of GM) has the occasional suddha Ma.(include the GM kanden in Mzhalai pattalam)
  
  Even the SG s varalama featured in SOTD last week has a good shade of GM in the latter part of charanams.
  
  ARR s Poongatriley is the last known better treatment of GM.I felt pretty bad listening to the sudden GM piece by Mani sharma in Ezhumalai -The current crop use the good GM as a filler.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Tue Sep 23 09:32:38 EDT 2003
  
  bb -
  
  "Chitra's diction is superb in this song (as it usually is)."
  
  There is an error, and a lie in the above statement. The "diction" does not belong to the singer, it belongs to the poet/lyricist. And the paranthetical emphasis is something that can be proven wrong - in any song sung by Chitra.
  
  Kanna Varuvaya is a classic example of how a tamizh song can be "malayalamised" (as many were, when sung by KJY and KSC) and yet tamils can be made to accept such moments as sublime and "apt."
  
  What is "swargam idhuvo" please, if not malayalam?
  What is "un mugham paarkire..." "nadhi orum ( shouldn't that be "oram"??) nadandhu..." "ragam seerkava (??)" "vidindhalum or nedunalum? (even with earphones and three encores, I couldn't figure this one out.)
  Sorry to rain on your parade, but KJY and KSC are a dynamite combination in Kerala perhaps. But when they get together for a duet as the SOTD above, he carries on with his legendary devil-may-care attitude toward tamizh, and she, a bonafide disciple, irons out every tamizh nuance in the song, drops endings and renders the song ready for dialysis. (KSC manages this songs-seeking-life-support even when it is a vivacious, frolicky, no holds barred hindi song like "Bani Bani Bani Re Bani" from MPKDH. It must be a gift.)
  
  Amazing what people will accept and celebrate. But we're all so adept at traversing this thin line between hypocrisy and honesty, we can pat ourselves on the back to raising it to a lever of a fine art.
  
  
• From: Mythila (@ 203.200.33.65) on: Tue Sep 23 09:54:36 EDT 2003
  
  Oh Naaz, probably , legendery singers like Chitra/KJY can avail of this phonetical , linguistic licence for exceptionally sweet songs.
  Naaz, neenga enna ippidi ChithraGuptan maadiri kanakku paarkirel? I'm gonna get jitters when I sing any Thamizh song.
  
  

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