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Karthikeyan Nagarajan | April 24, 2004 11:12 IST
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/apr/24rahman.htm
When I heard that the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra had asked A R Rahman to conduct two live concerts in March this year, I was very happy and proud as an Indian and a Tamilian.
Earlier, I had felt proud in 1993 when Ilayaraja had recorded his first classical orchestral work with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra of London. I was executive producer of that project.
It was Ilayaraja's first full-fledged classical work and it was recorded under the baton of John Scott. Unfortunately, Ilayaraja has still not released that work.
Hence to know that another composer from our midst has come to the world music arena was thrilling news. Rarely do musicians from our part of the world get such an opportunity.
But it was a big fiasco.
Rahman's popular film songs were converted into orchestral scores to be played by a classical symphony orchestra. They proved to be pale shadows of his original songs. And the predominantly Indian crowd did not appreciate them much.
It was obvious that not much thought had gone into the score. The objective should have been to retain the original melodic flavour suited to a symphony orchestra without electronic instruments and vocals.
Greater disappointment was his total non-preparation for conducting on stage. I consider that highly irresponsible. If Rahman thought conducting a symphony orchestra in concert was similar to a studio session, the people who risked allowing him to do it should be blamed.
I am surprised he has not fully understood the importance of the role of a conductor in a classical symphony orchestra.
Conducting is one of the most important aspects in a classical orchestra's live performance. People like Zubin Mehta have not become legends for nothing. Zubin is one of those rare talents who will conduct even the most difficult and complex symphonies like Mahler's 8th Symphony -- called the Symphony of a Thousand because Mahler's original debut concert required nearly 1,000 performers-musicians and choral groups -- without once referring to the score. Every bar of music is conducted from his memory, with total control and confidence of the orchestra.
As someone who has spent a lot of time on the UK music circuit over the last few years, I assumed Rahman would have done his homework and prepared the music as well as for his new role as conductor of a live concert, that too with a top-notch orchestra like the CBSO.
Rahman should have reminded himself that he was going to wield the baton of Sir Simon Rattle, who became CBSO conductor at 25 (in 1980) and made it one of the best orchestras in the world.
As a BBC reviewer wrote, "I cannot help feeling cheated by the concert. Though the orchestra were highly organised, Rahman seemed slightly uninterested to be there. Audience reactions were also mixed. The audiences were given opportunity to ask him questions to which he often replied with one-word answers. Rahman did conduct the orchestra for a short period, but later sat back with the audience and watched another conduct his music."
As with anywhere else in the West, most orchestras are going through a difficult time with dwindling concert attendances and slow music sales. Add to this the problem of population remix among local patrons.
By 2020, for example, Birmingham is tipped to become the first black majority city in UK. Now, its population is a mix of Asians, Africans and Chinese apart from the native whites.
Hence, orchestras are ready to try anything to bring people into the concert halls. And collaborations with musicians from Asia, titled Classic Asia, are part of the mission.
For the 84 year-old CBSO, it must have been a momentous, difficult decision. They took it because their survival depends on their ability to chart new paths.
With his exposure to the UK music industry through his collaboration with Andrew Lloyd Webber, it was not a surprise that Rahman got the project.
But his botching it up is.
I believe Rahman has not been able to transcend the barrier where his own singing and others are vital for his musical pieces. Obviously, there is an inability to compose music free of the composer/performer. He seems to have attempted something for which he is not yet ready intellectually.
In the end it was totally disappointing.
Rahman's confession -- "I messed it up. Will come next time with much more preparation" -- does not redeem him at all.
Karthikeyan Nagarajan is a Chennai-based software technologist.
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- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:31:16 EDT 2004
Actually Schumacher races were interesting when there was competition. Ippo ARR madhiri Schumi doesnt have any competitor. It is not their fault pa..
Others should live up to the standards set by these genius.
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:31:45 EDT 2004
Ferrari,
Aaha ellam plan panni senjadhu dhaana.
How to Name it-a? Namma TiS thread paartheengala. Adhula Aavendhan-nu oruththar adhukku expansion koduththaaru....Thiruodu in Semmapattini-nu. Adha maadhiri edhaavadhu?
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:32:06 EDT 2004
"ARR has never monopolised HFM or TFM......he is a perfect mixture of victory and defeat"
adde ennappa, arr ku limitte illaiya...ellathaiyum mix thanna?
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:34:44 EDT 2004
still no one answer to ARR=Mozart=Taal=?
adde paavi, mattha pechukku ellam smart marthiri kattumpothu inthe kelvi mattum escape ah[u can think of vivek here :)]?
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:36:10 EDT 2004
sambar eppadi prepare panradhu paa?
paruppu,thanni,manjal,sambar podi etc etc ellam mix panni dhaane pannanum..
idhu ellam mirugangalukku enga theriya poagudhu..
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:37:34 EDT 2004
C~P,
exam la answer pannum bodhu question paperla kanda out of syllabus question vandhaa adha choice la vidaradhu dhaane budhisali kku azhaghu.
idhu enga padikadha paamara muttalgalukku theriya poagudhu
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:40:20 EDT 2004
hahaha....ARRMozartai ippo sambar podi allavukku konduvanthutinggle....paavi
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:43:27 EDT 2004
Avaru kashta pattu ungalukkaga explain pannina, idhuvum solluveenga, innumum solluveenga!
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:44:43 EDT 2004
Mix enbadhu after all oru sambar la irukkum bodhu music la irukaradhu la enna thappu appadinu explicit aa sonaa dhaan puriyum pola kanda maramandaingalukku.
Bradman madhir aadare appadinu sachin kitta sonaanga..sachin said thanks. i am happy to receive such a compliment.
Schumi kitta u r the greatest race driver appadinu sonaanga. He said thank you very much.
ARR kitta adh madhiri smimi grewal keatta bodhu he replied in such a way.
Thalaiganam pidhcu garvathoda aadaravan dhaan compliment kedacha udane thanks solaama pesuvaan..
- From: ~sridhar (@ 203.145.186.2)
on: Mon Apr 26 06:48:35 EDT 2004
Reminds me of IR's words during some Hey Ram program:
"Idha naane solla koodaadhu..aanan andha hungary aalu neega oru special composernnu sonaar. naane solla koodaadhu, but avar apdidhaan sonnaaru"
Idhaan humility.
again, naane solla koodadhu..but endha madayanum solla maattaengraan!
- From: Maverick (@ 195.212.29.83)
on: Mon Apr 26 08:37:41 EDT 2004
hehe..hope this one settles the issue and enlighten someone here. summa oru vaati avaru intha maathiri sollitaaru..athanaala avaru ippdi illai, appdi illai nnu guthichittu irukkaravnagalukku onnu theriya vekkanum. yelaarume vaazhkkai la oru time intha maathiri yethaavathu solli irukalaam. athukaaga atha vechittu vazzhkkai full aa atheye pesittu irunthaa no use. antha aalu ippo CBSO issue la humility oda sonnatha yelaam vittutu simi garewal kooda appdi sonaaru nnu sollitu irunthaa ippdi thaan sridhar maathiri oruthar oru example moolaam ithelaam arasiyal la sagajam nnu soliduvaaru.
i just imagine myself posting one like below:
'hungary aalu neenga special composer nnu soluvaaraam. ivaru atha deny pannamaa othukarthoda atha inga vanthuttu TV la interview liyum solli kaatuvaaram. tho daa !!!'
che...nenichi paakarthukke kevalamaa irukk.i badly need a glass of ENO.
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Mon Apr 26 08:52:24 EDT 2004
Correct Maverick,
ARR mattam thatrandhu nalla matha MD's kku perum pugazhum vara pogudhaa. If someone really likes a MD, they should try to listen to their music and enjoy life. Adha vittutu matha music directors nalla peru vaangaraangale, namma aalu kadhai enna aagaradhu. Ayyo namma aaluku padame illaye. Innum evlo varusham ippadi mathavanagala paathu bayapadnum appadinu irukka koodadhu...
Adhu ennamo theriyala..Idhe dialogue pala vidhama pala vazhila solliyachu. But karayan poochinga neraya irukku indha vishyam edhuvum puriyamaa.
One basic thing. Oruthara mattam thatti dhaan innoruthan peru vaanganumnaa, adhukku gammunu irukalaam. Adhuve mel.
And it really makes many ARR fans chat and divert the topic when some idiots come in and post with no logic...
(he he. bb vara time la naanum oru serious post panniten.)
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Mon Apr 26 09:22:24 EDT 2004
Ferrari,[and others]
I totaly agree with your viewpoint. But, why dont you practice before you preach? Are you following the same codes when you write in other threads?
Leave the threads to the corresponding fans and allow it to grow rather than posting something irrelevant. Or else, start a new thread to say all your negatives. Thank you.
- From: Nattamai (@ 212.211.136.33)
on: Mon Apr 26 09:39:17 EDT 2004
I don't think anything wrong if IR says that hungary karan itha sonnan, atha sonnan. We all know and admit that IR has ego. But I think arr has ego too but acts very humble in the media gatherings. Anyway who cares about his personal character?
conductor eppo passenger aagap poraru? :))
- From: Maverick (@ 195.212.29.83)
on: Mon Apr 26 09:42:04 EDT 2004
And I dont understand the logic of such morons who in other threads go and discuss abt other MDs music, praise them, dissect a song and do a detailed thesis on them, elevate the MD to such a level and praise him (all of which is fine) . But time and again, they'd surface on an ARR thread, look for all sorta things to crticise him, sees ARR fans praise ARR's unmatched achievements and posts something (out of vayatherichal ??? i cant see any genuine reason) that maligns him and think that by posting such stuff they had achieved something. I guess, probably it happens with people who are not genuine fans (but fanatics) of some MD and are not able to digest the fact that his/her favourite MD's best days are well & truly over and other MDs (especially, ARR who is most popular of all) success is the talk of the town. and the funny part is they talk in such a way as if they are the masters of music, talk about ragas and stuff that a particular MD uses and ridicule ARR's stuff calling it just a sound and music fit for roadside stuff. and when they talk about the MDs of yesteryear and their success, they just forget ARR's success is multifold when compared to that and it is the same people who caused both of them.
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