Topic started by Jay (@ 203.124.234.166) on Tue Jan 28 01:28:13 EST 2003.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
Remember the Music Director trio Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy, the music directors of Kamal Hassan's Alavandhaan. They seem to be missing in the Tamil scene for the last 2 years and they are doing really good in the Hindi field. They have given solid musical hits in Hindi such as; Mission Kashmir, Dil Chahtha Hai. I think they can be brought to the Tamil films again. I feel they are definitely better than Deva and a few others. I think they are the best as far as Hindi Film Music goes after A R Rahman.
I would like healthy comments who listen to Shankar-Ehsaan-Loy and have a fair knowledge of Hindi Film Industry.
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- From: somu (@ 209.191.169.43)
on: Tue Oct 21 16:47:01 EDT 2003
V
You proved that you are pathetic Indian.
You admitted you do not listen Hindi music. So why are you here?For you Yesudas, SPB ,ARR are always great only because they are South Indians????
- From: V (@ 24.59.74.246)
on: Tue Oct 21 16:51:10 EDT 2003
Well who said this thread is dedicated to discussing Hindi music??
SEL has mentioned abt SPB.
For me SPB, KJY and ARR are great because they are way ahead of all other musicians. It is an opinion. But if your mind refuses to accept that and is hell-bent on thinking that their nativity is my only source of admiration, you are welcome to think so!
- From: V (@ 24.59.74.246)
on: Tue Oct 21 17:03:53 EDT 2003
Well Rajiv Gandhi sent his own Indian troops to kill fellow indians in Sri Lanka.
He not only wasted our military resources but also used it in questionable ventures. It is ofcourse true that some pathetic morons killed him in their violent zeal which got them nothing. But first try to learn why LTTE exists and why they need to fight for their rights. They are not like you and me sittingand listening to some hindi songs and writing doggerels. Their history is tragic. They were driven to sorrowful conditions through oppresive measures. I am sure you are one of those people who believes the Leftist-indian media outright and base your opinions on their seemingly true articles.
Born killers from my state? Hahahaha Who killed Indira Gandhi, mahatma Gandhi? Wasn't it North indians?
Who killed the missionary Graham Staines? Who raped the Swiss national in delhi? Who raped Anjana in Orissa? Who fought amongst their neighbours in Gujarat and burned children and women in the name of fighting for religious supremacy?? WHo has underworld dons controlling and masterminding bomb blasts?
It is a known fact that Delhi has an alarmingly high crime rate! I would almost say that a girl can not walk alone in the night feeling absolutely safe in cities filled with sex crazy rapists!
Coimbatore had a bomb blast supposedly orchestrated by islamic extremists. Did you hear abouyt any widespread violent clashes as a repercussion of the bomb blast? I am sure if it was a north indian state atleast half a lakh people would have been massacred!
It is very evident from cricket matches the nature of mob mentality in the North. Look at Calcutta. They created such havoc in India-Sl match, also in the India-Pak match.
Chennai on the other hand gave a standing ovation to Pakistani cricketers when they won a test match here. Also the crowd was going crazy when Saeed Anwar broke Viv Richard's record! Can you ever find such matuire and knowledgable crowd in Indian cricket anywhere else?? Jeved Miandad himself saluted the Chennai crowd and aid he was shocked by their kind applause!
Hmmmm after all this I would not say that Gujaratis and Mumbaites are born killers...
- From: V (@ 24.59.74.246)
on: Tue Oct 21 17:05:33 EDT 2003
I am not a big fan of Shankar anyway! I liked SEL's music in Aalavandhan and I am eager to hear more of them in TFM.
- From: V (@ 24.59.74.246)
on: Tue Oct 21 17:09:10 EDT 2003
to all visitors of this thread:
I apologize for going too off-track in my responses. It may sound wild but I have to defend myself from strange and harsh accusations such as "born killers" and wanting to "divide india just because I hate Hindi film music".
- From: Dilwala (@ 200.15.144.100)
on: Tue Oct 21 17:41:35 EDT 2003
Hi V!
Majority of the people in South Indian states are nice, well-behaved and educated. Dr. SPB is an example. In spite of being a legend, he is so humble and nice.
But there are people like you also in the South Indian states who are so narrow-minded, regionally biased and hate other cultures. You neither know about other cultures, nor you are interested to know. You are the people who bring bad names to your states. Otherwise, the South Indian people and the South Indian culture are something, we, Indians are proud of. It is because of you only that I had to write such harsh words.
I once again say, we, the Indians, do not need such narrow-minded people. You better get lost somewhere. You should ask yourself why you were born. Because such people are of no use to the society and the country.
Once again I ask you to read the message of the person who started the thread. He wants us to have sound knowledge of Hindi films.
- From: V (@ 24.59.74.246)
on: Tue Oct 21 18:02:59 EDT 2003
Dilwala!
Thanks!
I am not one of those crores of people who will stay quite when our songs are being ripped off left and right and our music is copied and still we are opressed!!!
south indian actors, cinematographers, directors, editors, auidography men, composers have all won accolades in the National level. But still they are opressed just because they are South indian.
If India itsef is biased against the south, what I am saying is why shud I care abt the North anymore? So I am just avoiding the North because we are good in all respects! Music, films, IT, etc etc.
Yes, i am biased but not in the crude sense of being biased but I prefer the south because it is truly better! I give it more marks because it performs beter! Thats it!
Why wouldn;t I give a damn about Hindi music? Becos I hate the fact they refuse to come out with something original and continually copy.
FYI, Vivek Oberoi's movies Saathiya and Dum were remakes of tamil movies Alaipayuthey and Dhill. Did uyou know that? Also Abhishek Bachan is doing a movie called RUN. It is a remake of the Tamil movie RUN. Kaaka Kaaka a Tamil superhit movie will be remade in Hindi with Fardeen Khan as hero.
Kadhal Konden will also be made in Hindi. When will Hindi have originality? I know they turn out some "original" movies where the hero is a rich brat named Rahul and the heroine is another rich girl named Pooja. One of those several chopra love movies which Ram Gopal Varma (another south Indian) made fun of in his movie Company.
If Hindi movie make good sensible movie shrugging off the nonsense rahul-Pooja love stories it will be better. Same applies to music.
In the lastfew years the only albums I have listened to are Dil Chahtha Hai, Legend of Bagat Singh and now its Tehzeeb. Other than that I find it all sour and half-baked. Ofcourse lotsof them are copied from Tamil and I have heard it in the Tamil original itself.
- From: FARDEEN (@ 195.92.168.164)
on: Tue Oct 21 19:26:41 EDT 2003
HYPE,
You know what! your name suites you, you get hyped up for no reason at all.. First of all my point was Peter Gabriel worked with great NUSRAT FATEH ALI KHAN, i didnt say that peter gave the music of that movie, i was talking about N.F.A.KHAN,s raaga based background musical surgam in DEAD MAN WALKING..
Now u will say that ohh it wasnt N.F.A.KHAN it was SEL.. what a brainless joker we have in this forum in the form of HYPE..who gets hyped up so easily..ohhhhh im scared, hype is gonna be on my case..HELP!HELP! someone plz call 911..(u wish hype)
- From: FARDEEN (@ 195.92.168.164)
on: Tue Oct 21 19:37:49 EDT 2003
V,
I dont beleive that u dont know, that KUMAR SANU sang so many tamil songs, you better go to any music shop and ask about it, if u dont believe me..listen to the songs and then let me know about ur views. Is that ok for u?
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 67.85.193.232)
on: Tue Oct 21 20:56:32 EDT 2003
V,
backing up your claim, i have to step up a little.
First of all ask these guys to look at the topic.. they dont know English to start with..
Dilwala..
it is a TFM page, there is no need to argue about who sings for whom..
anyways.. i really dont know how KS became big.. in our saying we say "kundi-la maccham"
Allow Ehsaan to reply to the queries instead of posting something stupid, which reveals your you know what...
- From: V (@ 24.59.74.246)
on: Tue Oct 21 22:25:38 EDT 2003
Guys,
did Kumar Sanu sing Tamil songs???
Even if he did, let us open a seperate thread for his Tamil songs. I promise I wont post in that thread.
- From: FARDEEN (@ 195.92.168.167)
on: Tue Oct 21 22:39:03 EDT 2003
V,
KUMAR SANU did sing in tamil movies.
- From: kavita (@ 67.242.13.133)
on: Tue Oct 21 22:54:28 EDT 2003
Hi Eshaan ji
I am Kavita from USA. Please ban this racist "V" from this forum. It is a digrace for you to have a fan!! of this mentality. When you are coming to Hindi music to survive , V is claiming that South India is superior. I think V cannot digest the fact he is a DRAVIDIAN and not superior Aryans.
In Andhra recently the CM akmost got killed. On Tamil Nadu an ex CM is arrested with a dhoti and no underware. In Karnataka a Superstar is abducted . In Kerala population is so much they have to go and settle elsewhere and work as a cook in other country. What is there to boast ?
- From: Mumbai Ramki (@ 203.197.24.195)
on: Tue Oct 21 23:04:32 EDT 2003
kavita ,
As you have quoted things from south India ,similar things can be quoted form north ...
but i thik this forum is not for that .....If you do not like soembody's posting ,teh best thing will be ignore him instead of replying him /her...
- From: kavita (@ 67.242.13.133)
on: Tue Oct 21 23:08:11 EDT 2003
Mumbai Ramki
Sorry for that . I just wanted to break that "V"s pride. Typical South Indians think that their songs are the best full of raagas , melody etc. They dont know their HINDI pronounciation is so pathetic that North Indians run away from them.
This "V" used to come here and say nasty comments about Kumar Sanu. Kumar Sanu is one of my favorite. Now "V" comes here and wants to divide India. What is wrong if we say something bad about South , let him understand thAT
- From: Tapan (@ 203.200.216.62)
on: Tue Oct 21 23:19:25 EDT 2003
Hello Hello Fardeen Swapan and other assorted things.
RAcism, eh? comprehension problems , eh?
What a pathetic gang!
Mr. Swapan failed to comprehend that I had actually regretted that he is educated. ANd he dares complain of miscomprehension on my part. What a pity! Swapan, first go and try to understand what other people say before you accus others. Firstly, yours is a one-track, one-room 6-feet-by-6feet mind that can accomodate only one idea at a time - which happens to be a nobody called Kumar Sany at the moment. You dare accuse others of lack of size in brain? This is certainly a great exhibition of guts, sir. HAts off.
Secondly, being a doctor has obviously not opened your eyes to arts south of the vindhyas.
How is it sirs and madams? You will blindly close your eyes to anything that is not Kumar Sanu - yet you are all large hearted open minded liberals but we who abhor *crap* like Kumar Sanu and take the best of both North and SOuth are racist, eh?
FYI, my top favourite composer is Salil Chaudhary. You cant get more bangla than him. I love S.D.Burman, too. However, I dont need to prove my pan-indianness to pathetic one track minds like you.
ALL of you have a single point agenda. To promote a worthless junkie caled Sanu. Which is not going to cut much ice because if he were really that worhty, he wouldnt need pathetic marketing executives like you.
What have you got against my vocabulary? IS that an attempt to portray me as anti-masses and revel in your "man of the people", "gang of the people" illusions?
That wont cut much ice here either, dearies. This is a forum of KNOWLEDGEABLE people.
BB, For heaven's sake, ban this nincompoops from this site.
BTW, you will find hundreds of people, thousands of people who take the best from North, east and west in arts and literature and celebrate it. I am yet to find a bengali or a hindiwallah who has similar passion, knowledgeable about South Indian arts and litt. That itself proves the hollowness of your claims about we being racist and ou being the saviours of the world. Again, as I said all this is not going to penetrate the SOLID CONCRETE which coats the portion of body above your shoulders. I think I will rather not waste my time anymore on pathetic souls like you.
One of these days, if I save enough money, I will try and buy a grammy for Mr. Sanu - if he can sign a bond paper saying he will never ever sing in public again. Will you deify me if do that ? ;-)
Bye and hope never to meet you nincompoops again!
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