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Review Of Old Songs

Topic started by SL (@ 208.49.174.119) on Mon Oct 2 18:43:44 EDT 2000.
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Let this thread serve as a platform for reviewing old songs that have not been elaborated upon except while discussing the creativity of its creators. Please use this thread to review old songs, album by album.

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• From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109) on: Tue Oct 3 04:32:00 EDT 2000
  
  SL:
  
  Why don't we start with kAviyath thalaivi
  songs? Karthi: Where are you?
  
  
• From: PPP (@ 202.188.12.64) on: Tue Oct 3 06:31:59 EDT 2000
  
  Wow! Excellent idea.
  
  Some suggestions:
  
  1. Kalangarai Vilakkam
  2. Padagoatti
  3. Anbey Vaa
  4. Pudhiya Paravai
  5. Gauravam
  
  
• From: Jay Narayanasamy (@ 63.15.211.160) on: Tue Oct 3 10:48:40 EDT 2000
  
  Good thread, btw how do you set the time boundary for this SL, upto 70's or 80's? EnekkennamO 99 than pazhaka therikirathu :-)
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.115) on: Tue Oct 3 17:00:13 EDT 2000
  
  SK,
  If you list the songs from "Kaaviyath Thalaivi" we can proceed.
  
  
• From: SL (@ 208.49.174.40) on: Tue Oct 3 17:51:35 EDT 2000
  
  ..and do not forget the KVM-AP Nagarajan movies. Udhaya, the review need not be movie specific, you could go by the CD/cassette in posession.
  
  Thanks for the suggestions guys.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Tue Oct 3 18:29:41 EDT 2000
  
  info from PPP:
  songs from kaaviyath thalaivi:
  1. en vaanaththil aayiram veLLi nilavu - PS
  2. kaiyOdu kai sErkkum kaalangaLE - PS
  3. nalam kEtka vandhaayO - PS
  4. kavidhaiyil ezhudhiya kaaviyaththalaivi - PS
  5. nEraana nedunchaalai - MSV
  6. aarambam inRE aagattum - SPB, LRE
  7. oru naaL iravu pagal pOl nilavu - PS
  links: http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/kaiyodu.html
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/ppp/oru_naal_iravu.html
  music: MSV, lyrics: KD.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.115) on: Tue Oct 3 19:04:48 EDT 2000
  
  Thanks, SL, bb. 5 solos by PS, is this a TFM record?
  
  sk,
  Whatever possessed you to think of Kaaviyath Thalaivi, neenga vaazhga. I don't have most of these songs. A couple of them I have never heard. So I will give a partial review of the ones I know.
  
  2)Kaiyoadu kai saerkkum kaalangalae, by PS has always been one of my favorites. The singing, lyrics, orchestration everything is set in high gear throughout. This is one of the happiest songs in TFM. Whenever there's a compilation of happy songs, expecially wedding songs, I bring this up.
  
  6)aarambam indrae aagattum-SPB, LRE. This is one of those early SPB numbers that delivers. Although this duo didn't sing too many songs with each other, every one of theirs has been a good song ("oorkoalam poagindra" comes to mind). The sentiment and the tune are typical of young romance.
  
  7)oru naal iravu pagal poal nilavu--PS. This is clearly on the other end of the spectrum, it's as sad as "kaiyoadu kai" was happy. This is one of those gems that I stay away from most of the time for the sheer depth of pathos in it.
  
  I'm curious to read others' input.
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109) on: Tue Oct 3 19:34:22 EDT 2000
  
  bb:
  
  Thanks. I have put all the songs in real audio in a
  single real audio file:
  
  http://www.angelfire.com/pa3/ppp/kavthalaivi.ram
  
  Udhaya and others:
  
  Shall we discuss the songs of 'kAviyath thalaivi'?
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109) on: Tue Oct 3 21:21:23 EDT 2000
  
  Udhaya:
  
  Sorry.. I missed seeing your posting when I posted
  my last one.
  
  In my opinion,
  en vaanaththil aayiram veLLi nilavu
  stands out as the best.. for the excellent emotional
  content.. for the wonderful singing by PS.. the
  very good use of 'Hindustani' type of instruments
  by MSV etc etc. oru nAl iravu pagal pOl nilavu
  is a well known song with great emotion.. but I
  will put it only next to the above song.
  
  kaiyOdu kai sErkkum kAlangaLE.. inimaiyAna
  pAttu.. MSV's rubber stamp melody.
  
  The two songs that have the best lyrical content
  are: nalam kEtka vandhAyO (peN pArththa mAppiLLaikku)
  and nErAna nedum sAlai. Although I am not
  a big fan of MSV's singing, I like this song.. he
  has sung nErAna.. very well, emotionally
  and sweetly. I am reproducing below, a posting
  that was made by my sister two years ago in the
  Lyrics which are aptly written for music situations
  thread..
  
  "Kaaviyath thalaivi " KByin iyakkaththil Soucar janaki thayaariththu irattai vEdangaLil nadiththa
  padam.
  
  Jeminiyum, Soucarum kaathalargaL. Jemini barrister padikka ayalnaadu selkiRaan. vaRumaiyinaal,
  SJ oru ayOkkiyanai ( M.R.R.Vasu) thirumaNam mudikkiRaaL. avanaal, palar munbu aadip paadi
  vaazum nilaiyum varukiRathu. Jemini thirumbi, kaathaliyai kaNdu pidikka mudiyavillai. naNban
  oruvan, avan sokaththaik kuRaikka SJyin idaththukku azaiththu selkiRaan. thiraiyin maRaivil
  irukkum SJ paadukiRaaL
  
  "nalam kEtka vanthaayO - illai
  sugam kaaNa vanthaayO?
  mukam paarkka vanthaayO - illai
  en kathai kEtka vanthaayO?
  en kathai kEtka vanthaayO?
  
  peN paarththa maappiLaikku kaNNerum theriyavillai
  kaNNeeril kathai ezuthi sonnaalum puriyavillai
  
  maalaiyitta paaviyidam manjaLukku makimaiyillai
  maanamuLLa paavaiyena vaaza oru vaazkkaiyillai
  kattilukku kadan koduththaaL thottilukku vilai koduththaaL
  kattaLaiyil piRantha piLLai kaaval kaaNa vaazukinRaaL
  
  kungumaththil vaaznthirunthaal maNdapaththil vElai illai
  kOvilukkuL theyvamillai vaasalukku veLiyil vanthaaL
  pottu vaiththu alangariththaaL punnakaiyil poy vaLarththaaL
  pattavarai pOthumenRu paattu paada sabai pukunthaaL
  paattu paada sabai pukunthaaL"
  
  SJ sabaiyil vanthathum athirchchi adainthu Jemini Oduvathudan paadal mudikiRathu
  
  kaviyarasar Kannadasanin paadal
  paadiyavar Susila
  isai mellisai mannar.
  
  thiraikkathaiyOdu ottiya innoru paadal anthap padaththil.
  
  Jeminiyai santhiththu than kathai muzuthum SJ solkiRaaL. Jemini maRuvaazvu thara virumba, athai
  maRuththu onRu mattum kEtkiRaaL. than makaLai nalla muRaiyil vaLarppathudan, avaLukku than
  thaay yaarenRu kadaisi varaiyil theriyak koodaathu enRa saththiyamum vaangukiRaaL. Jemini
  anthak kuzanthaiyai than kuzanthaiyaaka vaLarkkum nilaiyil, pinnaNiyil olikkum Kannadasanin
  paadal.
  
  "thaayenum sumaithaangi thaan sumantha mazalaiyai
  thaaLaathu iRakki vaiththaaL
  kaathalenum sumai thaangi kaNNeeril vaaznthavan
  kaLippudan ERRuk koNdaan
  innoruvar nalam kaakkum thyaakamum seelamum
  ellOrkkum vaayppathillai
  izanthathOr sippiyil veLi vantha muththinai
  en makaL enRazaiththaan
  ithayaththil ezuthinaan
  iLam selvi vaazvil Or ethirkaalam ezuthukinRaan
  ethirkaalam ezuthukinRaan. "
  
  izanthathOr sippiyil veLi vantha muththinai enRa uvamai ezutha Kannadasanaalthaan mudiyum!
  
  
  
• From: SL (@ 63.253.6.47) on: Wed Oct 4 05:31:00 EDT 2000
  
  My review...I tried listening to the songs I was most familiar with , deconditioning myself from the impressions already created over the years(which was a bit of an achievement;).
  1. KayyOdu Kai sErkum.... PS solo
  The song starts with an energetic spurt of violins and a small,lightning fast sitar piece combined with xylophone for PS to start the opening humming piece. Very festive feel indeed!!! The song is set to a reggaeish beat with three main instruments Dholak, Bongos and to a slightly lesser extent, tabla sharing the honours. In the very first hearing itself, the peppy anupallavi with sharp/short flute "instrusions" makes you sit up and take notice of it. The first interlude starts off with an accordian piece for the violin and xylophone to take over and there is a change of beat here that 'happens' with the flow . The stanzas are set to the same beat/tempo as the pallavi and end with PS humming (in the I stanza) and repeating the word 'VENdum' (II stanza) with a reflective feel and no beats. The catchy anupallavi is introduced at this point and the song is taken back to its pallavi seamlessly, all's well!! The second interlude starts with the sitar/xylophone combination and violin thrown in for good measure. The accordian piece following all this briskly cascades down for the II stanza to start. Fluency is the word that springs to mind and the feel/tempo/momentum built up in the prelude is maintained throughout the song. MSV's trademark, potent melody is another highlight.PS's voice is as good as it had always been in the early 70s. The song is set predominantly to Shankarabaranam and M2 introduced at the end of each stanza adds beauty to the melody.
  
  Will continue tomorrow..
  
  
• From: Ravy (@ 158.106.50.3) on: Wed Oct 4 07:45:08 EDT 2000
  
  SK,
  Isn't Kanna sugama, Krishna sugama (PS) from Kaviya Thalaivi? If so, IMHO that's the best one from that movie.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.150.58) on: Wed Oct 4 08:02:48 EDT 2000
  
  chila Paatukal Keta ninaive illai. Aanal nalla paatukal padathil ullana.
  Pirapalamaana paatukal enraal,
  1. Kaiyodu Kai
  2. Kanna sugama
  3. En Vaanathil Aayiram Velli Nilavu
  
  Moonrume mikach chirandtha paadalkal. ovonrum ovoru vakai. Athilum nalla vakai.
  
  Kaiyodu Kai vazakamaana kaathal paatu. Aanal thanip paatu. Athuvum naayaki paaduvaal. Yen theriuma athu thanip paatu? pinnal naayaki thaniyaakap pookap pokiral enpathaich chollave thanip paatu. Nalla Muyarchi.
  
  Kanna Sugama paataip patrich chollave thevaiyillai. Ellam chari. krishna enru pennkaluku peyar vaikum vazakam tamizarkaluku unda? "Kanna sugama" enpathrku pathilla "Kanne Sugama" enru irundthaal innum nanraaka irundthirukumo?
  
  Hindustaaniyil isai amaipathu thanaku puthumai illai enpathai MSV nirupitha matroru paatu ithu. Paataip paarungkal. "En vaanathil aayiram velli nilavu". Onrum Naayakiyin kaiyil chikaathu enpathall thaan "Vaanathil aayiram velli nilavu"
  
  
• From: Pal (@ 199.43.32.22) on: Wed Oct 4 09:56:12 EDT 2000
  
  Ravy: It is the same song 'oru naaL iravu' which was discussed by sk & udhaya.
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.2.109) on: Wed Oct 4 21:19:54 EDT 2000
  
  SL:
  
  That was a nice (technical) viewpoint on kaiyOdu.
  I hope you will take a long breath and come back
  to write more, about other songs. I can understand
  how difficult it is to listen to the songs with a
  'new brain' but it will give freshness!
  
  Ravy:
  The great liking I have for en vAnaththil is just
  a personal one. BTW, I very much like the kaNNA nalamA song too.. the picturization is also very
  well done.. with the mother Sowkar Janaki displaying
  emotions very very well.
  
  Raghavan:
  You have also added 'new viewpoints' to the songs.
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.150.58) on: Thu Oct 5 08:29:45 EDT 2000
  
  Fine. I hope Kaviyath Thalaivi is over.
  Next movie?
  
  Uyarndtha Manithan
  
  1. Vellik Kinnamthan
  2. Naalai Indtha Veellai
  3. Athaanin Muthangkal
  4. Andtha Naal Gayapakam
  5. En Kelvikenna Pathil
  
  
  

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