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Bharathiyar Songs in TFM

Topic started by x (@ 209.47.143.226) on Mon Jun 24 17:07:25 EDT 2002.
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Which MD did more songs for bharathiyar's lyrics than anybody else? Is it MSV, G.Ramanathan or IR or someone else?.

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• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Mon Jun 24 17:14:54 EDT 2002
  
  We all know Bharathiyar was a great poet and he has written over 1000 songs. It's a general openion that composing music for pre-written lyrics is more difficult than writing words for a tune. But in my openion, our MDs have done great job composing excellent tunes for barathiyar's lyrics. For eg 'Nallathor veenai seithen' from varumayin niram sivappu is a great piece of work.
  I think L.vaidhyanathan's 'eazhavathu manithan' had a few beautiful songs. Also 'manadhil uruthi' from sindhu bhairavi is a master-piece. Can you guys list more? I would like to know which MD did the most...
  
  
• From: sk (@ 202.156.2.6) on: Mon Jun 24 18:52:32 EDT 2002
  
  x:
  
  Include R Sudarsanam. I am sure he composed music
  for many Bharathiar songs in the late 40's and early 50's.
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Mon Jun 24 19:58:36 EDT 2002
  
  X:
  Are you really interested in Bharathiar's songs that were/are used in TFM, or is this another thread to fight about "my MD has done more Bharathiar songs than your MD"? I am not questioning your motives, but with the way our Forum is going these days, I wanted to be sure. It will be a disgrace and a disater if we are going to drag down Bharathiar's name just to score cheap points for our favourite MDs:)
  
  If your intentions are good, I will be quite interested in the discussion.
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Mon Jun 24 20:00:08 EDT 2002
  
  TYPO: "disaster":))
  
  
• From: hari (@ 66.68.96.108) on: Mon Jun 24 20:15:35 EDT 2002
  
  Interesting thread. some of my favorites:
  
  1. kAtru veLiyidai kaNNammA (kappalOttiya thamizhan)
  -- if I were to rank one single melody in entire TFM, it probably would be this. What a song! PBS and PS sing this G Ramanathan classic.
  
  2. theerththak karaiyinilE (varumaiyin niram sivappu)
  -- SPB all the way! MS Viswanathan has scored the music. Kamal sings in self-pity as Sridevi watches on... timeless song.
  
  3. manadhil urudhi vEndum (sindhu bhairavi)
  -- very very pleasant to hear, and the music sort of elevates the lyrics... KJY, KB, Sivakumar and IR combined to give this classic (not to mention Bharathiyar too :-))
  
  4. kAkkaich chiraginilE (yEzhAvadhu manidhan)
  -- stylish song IMO. KJY breezes through it. L Vaidyanathan did a great job with the orchestration too. One of the few Bharathiyar songs with modern orchestration?? (I havent listened to the other songs of yEzhAvadhu manidhan)
  
  guys please contribute more.
  
  Also, it would be great if DF-ers can actually give the lyrics here and explain the meanings of some of them... nAn thamizhan dhAn, AnAl bhArathiyAr kavidhai puriyum aLavukku thamizh theriyAdhu.
  
  
• From: hihi:-) (@ 128.111.113.76) on: Mon Jun 24 20:28:19 EDT 2002
  
  chanthamizh nAdenum pOthinilE: music by srikAnth dEvarAjan; inspired singing by RJAY. this is on the top of the list of bhArathiyAr songs for me. of course this is not in TFM, but in TFMDF :-)
  
  
• From: x (@ 64.12.105.188) on: Mon Jun 24 20:55:47 EDT 2002
  
  GV:
  I understand what you mean. It is certainly not my intention to start a fight about who's the best. I am very much interested to know how our MDs handled this great poet's lyrics in tamil movies. Moreover, I have a lot of respect for Bharathi and imo, he is one of the best poets India has ever produced. So please contribute your comments and views and list the songs you know. If possible, I would like to compile the whole list at the end. I would everybody's input on this...
  
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Mon Jun 24 21:02:59 EDT 2002
  
  OK, X:) Here we go!!
  
  Bharathiar's songs by KJY:
  
  1. manathil uRuthi vENdum.....sindhubhairavi - Ilaiyaraja
  
  2. chinnam chiRu kiliyE.....neethikku thaNdanai - Ilaiyaraja
  
  3. endha nEramum.....yEzhaavathu manithan - L. Vaidyanathan
  
  4. paayumoLi nee enakku.....yEzhaavathu manithan - L. Vaidyanathan
  
  5. kaakkai chiraginilE......yEzhaavathu manithan - L. Vaidyanathan
  
  6. Odi viLaiyaadu paappaa.....yEzhaavathu manithan - L. Vaidyanathan
  
  7. ninnaiyE rathi enRu ninaikkinREnadi.....kaNNE kaniyamuthE - MSV
  
  8. mOgaththai konRu vidu.....ini oru suthanthiRam - Gangai Amaran
  
  KJY has also released (at least) one private (Tharangini) album of Bharathiar's songs.
  
  More to follow:))
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Mon Jun 24 21:07:15 EDT 2002
  
  X:
  
  You may find a lot of your answers in the following thread:
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/10335.1.html
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Mon Jun 24 21:33:29 EDT 2002
  
  If you want to listen to Bharathiar's songs in TFM, please click below:
  
  http://dhool.com/html/bharathi.html
  
  
• From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.180.179) on: Mon Jun 24 21:44:46 EDT 2002
  
  Great link!
  
  
• From: Bum_Laden (@ 24.100.180.179) on: Mon Jun 24 21:47:22 EDT 2002
  
  I take it bak!
  None of the songs working
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Mon Jun 24 22:14:07 EDT 2002
  
  Bum_Laden:
  
  If dhool.com link does not work, complain to bb at newtfmpage Administration:))
  
  For more Bharathiar songs, please try the following link:
  
  http://www.swara.com/html/bharathi.shtml
  
  
• From: GV (@ 65.93.1.37) on: Tue Jun 25 04:20:43 EDT 2002
  
  
  
  The following list is taken from the thread "Literature in TFM":
  
  Kaatru Veliyidai kannamma - Kappal Ottiya Thamizhan
  Kaakkai siraginile - 7 avadhu manithan
  Veenaiyadi nee enakku - 7 avadhu manithan (What happened to Neeraja who sang this song ?)
  (Other songs from 7 avadhu manithan were also Bharathi songs).
  Chinnanchiru kiliye kannamma - Needhikku dhandanai
  Nallathor veenai seithe - V.N.Sigappu
  Theertha karaiyinile - V.N.Sigappu
  Aaduvome pallu paaduvome - Naam Iruvar
  Viduthalai Viduthalai Viduthalai - Naam Iruvar
  (I think all the songs from Naam Iruvar were Bharathiyar songs. I can't find my cassette right now. Before this movie Bharathi's songs were copyrighted by whom I don't know. AVMeyyappa Chettiyar bought the rights and made Bharathi's songs public domain).
  Mohathai kondru vidu - Ini oru sudhanthiram (This song contains verses from another Bharathi song too).
  Nallathor veenai seithe - Marupadiyum
  Ninnaiye rathi endru - ?
  Suttum vizhichchudarthan kannamma - PSuseela / Gangai Amaran MD - Movie ?
  
  
• From: GV (@ 65.93.1.37) on: Tue Jun 25 04:23:52 EDT 2002
  
  Literature in TFM:
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/12314.09:09:48.html
  
  
• From: x (@ 209.47.143.226) on: Tue Jun 25 09:57:47 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks a bunch to all of you...
  
  I rememebr watching 'naam iruvar' in doordarshan long long time ago. That movie had great songs. Very patriotic. Is there any website where I can listen or download those songs?
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Jun 25 10:46:33 EDT 2002
  
  GV - Ninaiye Rathi Endru is from Kanne Kaniamudhey
  (KJY-BS Sasirekha, i think. MD: MSV)
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Tue Jun 25 10:54:59 EDT 2002
  
  naaz:
  
  I have listed that song right in my first list.
  
  The second list was a "cut & paste" from "Literature in TFM" thread.
  
  Thanks anyway:)
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Jun 25 11:01:57 EDT 2002
  
  I noticed that after I posted, GV...I thought you might overlook the gaffe! Thanks
  
  
• From: KJY fan :) (@ 207.245.22.25) on: Tue Jun 25 11:08:36 EDT 2002
  
  suttum vizhi sudar thaan... PS (malarkaLE malarungaL)
  aaduvOmE paLLu paaduvOmE...(KJY)(mudhal kural)
  endru thaNiyum indha...(KJY)(ini oru suthanthiram)
  GV How did you miss this song :)
  
  
• From: GV (@ 207.236.25.220) on: Tue Jun 25 11:21:59 EDT 2002
  
  KJY fan: I just wanted to give you a chance:))
  
  
• From: ec (@ 141.14.139.162) on: Tue Jun 25 14:43:20 EDT 2002
  
  There are some more songs from old tfs, i don't remember the film names, (some could be from naam iruvar):-
  thooNdil puzhuvinai pOl sakiye - very nice song sung by DK PattammaaL avargaL
  vetri ettu dhikkum etta - again by DKP
  bharatha samudhayam vaazhgave - "
  theeraatha viLayaattu piLLai - "
  
  oLi padaitha kaNNinaai - the Great MS Subbulakshmi
  
  from GV's list-
  aaduvOme paLLu paaduvOme - DKP
  viduthalai viduthalai - TR Mahalingam avargaL
  
  There is one more song by TRM. i am not getting it right now.
  
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Tue Jun 25 23:21:07 EDT 2002
  
  Kakkai chiraginile has been recorded at least thrice in TFM.
  One is by SPB for ezhavathu manithan.
  the earlier one is by Sulamangalam Rajalakshmi for Neelagiri express
  The third one I need help. All three were set to different tunes & all versions were cute in their own way. ( OISG, Naaz, Saravanan pls help)
  Enru thaniyum by Sirgazhi for Kappalottiya tamilan has not been mentioned while "endru thaNiyum indha...(KJY)(ini oru suthanthiram) has been mentioned.
  Kappalotiya Thamizhan had mostly Barathiyaar songs only.
  As GV pointed out AV Meyiappa Chettiyaar has done a yeoman service by bringing barathiyaar songs into public domain. Also old timers & people who have listened to the records later will vouch DK Pattammal's contribution in taking barathiyar's songs to patti thotti mulai mudukku is remarkable.You feel like joining the dance when she renders AAduvome pallu paaduvome., or the theeradha vilayaatuppillai( Film -vedhala ulagm?! what is the film about... ghosts & Barathiyaar song beats me) you almost here kannaan's footsteps. In today's parlance DKPkku oru OOO Podu!
  
  
  
• From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on: Wed Jun 26 01:04:46 EDT 2002
  
  indha Kaatru Veliidai Kannama Was an Ultimate Song by PS &PBS Excellent Composition by GRamanathan
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Wed Jun 26 01:36:13 EDT 2002
  
  The third version is in Thirumal perumai. I was referring to the earlier posting reg the three versions of kaakai chiraginile. i wish some one were to post the links so that all the versions can be heard one after the other!
  
  
• From: mahabs (@ 203.197.138.163) on: Wed Jun 26 09:33:37 EDT 2002
  
  of course, 'bharathy' songs. my personal fav.s are 'ninnaiyae rathiendru' by msv, kAtru veLiyidai kaNNammA (kappalOttiya thamizhan) by gr, kAtru veLiyidai kaNNammA (kappalOttiya thamizhan) by lv and nirpathuvae by ir
  
  anbudan
  mahabs
  
  
  
• From: KJY Fan :) (@ 207.245.22.25) on: Wed Jun 26 10:43:03 EDT 2002
  
  mangiyathOr nilavinilE kanavil ithu kaNdEn...(oru manithanin kadhai)(SPB)
  
  

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