Twist in the Song
Topic started by NOV (@ 202.184.134.10) on Fri Sep 19 05:31:37 EDT 1997.
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- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Fri Sep 19 05:55:02 EDT 1997
I was listening to two old songs and realised they tuned into something else by the end of the song. The songs are:
Anbey siranthethu abaniyeeley - it talks about how love is the most important thing and towards the end, the following lines come: Ithanei anbilum, siranthe anbu yethu? and the answer is of course: Kannan, manivannan, kamala Kannan...
Thaai illaamal naanillei - it talks about the greatness about motherhood before ending with aval thaan Annai Parasakthi.
I wonder whether there are any other such songs. It just so happened that both these songs, make references to God, but your selection need not be so restricted. As long as the song does not give any indication on how it will end, will do.
- From: Ravy (@ eagle.vapower.com)
on: Fri Sep 19 07:19:08 EDT 1997
NOV:
I don't know about the first song. But I feel the second one refers to motherhood only. Just because it refers to 'avaLthan annai Parasakthi' at the end it doesn't mean that the whole song was about Parasakthi. At the end of the song, mother is equated to Annai parasakthi (the ultimate mother). It is only my opinion. Need some clarification please.
- From: Ramki (@ ucc246.lab.cc.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Sep 19 14:37:39 EDT 1997
Ravy and NOv i think the whole song is only abt Parasakthi As because in this film MGR will not know that he has a annai so i think he cannot sing abt his mother
- From: twister (@ bones.deneb.com)
on: Mon Sep 22 02:32:12 EDT 1997
Ramki:
Ravy is correct. parasakthi enbathu vErA yArum illai
numma ammAkalin thAimai sakthithAn engirAr vAli.
inthak kAlathil "chinnathambi"il avar solliya varigaL:
"thAi irukkum kAranathAl kOvilikkup pOnathillai"
Next time when you visit madras you will notice the
above lines in many of the AUTOs.
Also in the movie, MGR has been longing to find
his mother and finally when he meets her..he is
so happy and starts singing "thAi illAmal nAn
illai"
NOV: twist in your writing..
I have noticed your writing in few places,
using "BA" for "VA" - is it just a typo or
being away from Tamilnadu and close to
BE(VA)NGAL you are like that ???
it is "AVANIelE" not "BAVAnielE".
Vangalathuk karargaLukku "VA" va(ba)rAthu.
VInayak - BInayak
VANgala viri kuda - BENGALA BIRI kuda
MalesiAvil eppadi intha toung twisting??
NOV enbathai NOB nu sollanumA!!
In general, the twists in the songs are mainly
for the situations explained by the directors.
When the director says, we want to show PrabuDeva
in a cowboy dress then vAli writes:
Cowboyin kan patathum..playboyin..
We want to show NAGMA in very tight closeup..then
Vali writes:
JURASSIC PARKIL indru makkal odinar..
- From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.9)
on: Mon Sep 22 22:58:18 EDT 1997
Bones
A small twist to what you said. vAli wrote the song first. So it was Shankar/Lenin-Vijayan/ Choreographer who did that mischief of Jurassic Park and Nagma.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Sep 24 05:00:14 EDT 1997
Ravy, Ramki & Bones - see what I mean? There is no clear demarcation on what the song is about. I remember in the scene, Pandaribai hovers around in the background smiling away, with MGR singing the song. For the uninitiated, Pandaribai doesn't want to be identified since her foot is chained to an iron ball (thus Adimai Penn!)
Bones - sivasivasivasiva! Avaniyiley-kku bathila abaniyiley yendru yezhuthi, siru pizhai seithu vittein. Atherkku ivvalavu periya lecture-ah? OK, unga baasheiyiley solreiney - sibasibasibasiba!
There is one more song sung by IR, which starts out differently and ends singing the praises of Amman. Anyone can recollect the song?
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Wed Jun 10 18:15:36 EDT 1998
There are two songs within whose structure, Kannadhaasan creates a twist. The following song starts with metaphors and creates an expectation of more to come when instead we get a twist:
"Kaalangalil Aval Vasantham
---------------------------
Paal pol sirippathil pillai
Aval pani pol anaippadhil kanni
Kan pol valarpadhil annai
Kan pol valrpadhil annnnai
Aval Kavingyan Aakkinaal ennai(the twist)
Similarly,
in the song, "Veedu Varai Uravu"
another list of parables ensues with a twist ending the stanza
Thottilukku Annai
Kattilukku Kanni
Pattinikku Theeni
Kettapinbu Gyaani(twist)
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Tue Jun 30 15:29:44 EDT 1998
Another classic twist that came to mind, an old NSK song:
kudiththu pazhaghanum
kudiththu pazhaghanum
paalum thayirum thaenum(twist)
kudithu pazhaghanum
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Jun 30 15:30:28 EDT 1998
closing italics
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue Jun 30 15:30:28 EDT 1998
- From: Clueless (@ )
on: Thu Jan 2 12:45:16 EST 2003
Where would I find the songs for Parasakthi??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
- From: Lord LabakuDas (@ 12.162.224.5)
on: Thu Jan 2 20:53:07 EST 2003
ada paavi..
anju varushama thoongi kittu irundha thread'a thatti ezhupittiyey..
Parasakthi songs ellam Paramasivan paaduvar..Nee kailasathuley ice malaikku pinnadi oorama ninnu ketukkoo..:-)
PS:Be careful about the always existing smoke in Kailasam..:-)
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.126)
on: Thu Jan 2 23:35:49 EST 2003
LLD,
do u know the person who "peeps" in to stealthly listen and watch song/dance performed by sivan & parvathi is cursed to turn brahma rakshasa?
Than muyarchchiyil satRum manam thaLaraadha vikramaadityan thookkum paeyum appadi saeidha saeigayinaal aana manidhan thaan....jaagradhai.
- From: :-))))))) (@ 61.11.76.163)
on: Fri Jan 3 00:00:41 EST 2003
:-))
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.124.139.195)
on: Fri Jan 3 07:53:54 EST 2003
vj!!
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