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A request to amateur composers who visit this page

Topic started by Vijay (@ 212.137.205.127) on Thu Nov 16 16:58:22 EST 2000.
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I'd like to request amateur composers who visit this page to tell me if they've uploaded any of their work onto the internet and if they have, please tell me where I can listen to it. Thank You.

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Some composers to check out (in no particular order): Jay, Srikanth, Ganesh, Eswar, Sridhar Seetharaman, Kumar, Rjay. Vishwesh Obla

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• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.77) on: Wed Oct 29 12:12:40 EST 2003
  
  Sam:
  
  As sridhar said, use line-input. Keep the volume of the keyboard low. Keep the recording volume in the computer at a reasonable level. This should help you.
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Wed Oct 29 15:08:36 EST 2003
  
  hello folks,
  please chek out my new impressionistic score
  Zen Garden....I hope you will like this one...
  
  here's the link
  http://www.geocities.com/dbhowman
  
  
  MS:
  Can you upload your song again, I missed that piece.
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.138) on: Wed Oct 29 16:59:03 EST 2003
  
  Divakar:
  
  I liked your Zen Garden. Impressionism is a nice concept that i was exposed in Washington DC art museum...
  
  Your music deserves a good website which can be accessed much easier...even if it means pay per piece...
  
  Rgds,
  Aditya
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Wed Oct 29 19:58:53 EST 2003
  
  Aditya,
  Thanks for the comments. Incidentally, Debussy(1880's) who brought the concept of impressionism to Music tend to paint the music with a lot of scales from Indian(definitely some of our own pentatonic scales)Spanish and also some whole tone scales (C,D,E,F#,G#,A#,C')especially in his score Island of Pleasure (L'lsle Joyeuse)
  
  On the Web-site:
  Nice Suggestion thanks! I am working on my web-site though at my own pace...Pay per song download is a great idea, soon may be the industry norm, even music sites like Ic-Music media are trying to jump in on that concept, as far as myself I still have some ground work to do....
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 67.83.146.59) on: Wed Oct 29 20:59:17 EST 2003
  
  Diwakar,
  
  Brilliant. I liked the mood very much.
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 69.58.11.103) on: Thu Oct 30 03:30:56 EST 2003
  
  Diwakar, its really nice. Cool. May I ask u how u played it? In some places I hear as if four hands were playing. How did u achieve that?
  
  
• From: Sam (@ 69.58.11.103) on: Thu Oct 30 03:32:08 EST 2003
  
  MS and Sridhar,
  
  I will try that one this time. Thanks
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Thu Oct 30 07:01:48 EST 2003
  
  Diwakar,
  
  Apart from the scales what else is characteristic of impressionism. Does "Zen Garden" follow it completeley?
  
  
• From: Sridhar Seetharaman (@ 192.147.58.6) on: Thu Oct 30 07:06:56 EST 2003
  
  Diwakar,
  
  This thread is all about learning from each other. Please throw in as much information as possible.
  
  
  
• From: rjay (@ 156.77.105.121) on: Thu Oct 30 09:44:50 EST 2003
  
  In painting the impressionist feel is acheived
  by avoiding clear outlines and edges and lines in general. Instead blotches of paint or points of different density were used. The idea was to create the atmospheric effect by blurring the details.
  
  Correspondingly in music the idea was to avoid
  clear melodic outlines and theme/subject development notion and even chord progressions, instead, go for raw sound.
  
  From my notes, these are few techniques by which the impressionist effect is acheived in music:
  
  1. Spanish, Oriental and Greek and Jazz modes.
  
  2 Bitonality: Some parts play in one key, others in a second key. In piano, the left hand plays in one key and the right in another!
  
  3. 6 note and 7 note chord that are not easily
  classifiable.
  
  Here is the site with examples:
  http://www.empire.k12.ca.us/capistrano/Mike/capmusic/impressionism/impressi.htm
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Thu Oct 30 10:55:46 EST 2003
  
  Sridhar,
  Thanks!
  Sam Good question! Most of my Piano works are for 4 hands though sometimes I write for two hands too...So when the first tune is playing the left and right parts I write the tune for the next for its corresponding left and right hand parts ofcourse harmonically related to the first tune.
  
  As fas as Zengarden and its mood its not Debussish impressionism, infact one of the reasons why impressionism didnt trickle to the mainstream composers is if you strictly follow the impressionistic rules you sound Debussyish!
  
  But lately I have found for myself that impressionism could be achieved with some of our scales because our scales(especially some of the72 parent scales) can allow very many interesting and unresolved chordal dissonances and chromaticism without bending the rules very much. but at the end of the day it depends on how one constructs the melodic line with respect to the harmonic counter parts and its for the listeners to judge the piece....
  
  I am reminded when I write this that there is one classic piece of IR one of the greatest songs that Indeed could be classified as impressionistic but would baffle us because it doesnt follow the unresolved chord structures and fuzzy harmonic rules ...The song is Thendral Vandhu theendum from Avatharam a piece written in the key of A natural Minor would leave listener Spell bound....well, melodically achieved!
  
  The site Rjay mentioned is indeed an excellent source for more information and something for everyone to think about!
  
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Thu Oct 30 11:19:03 EST 2003
  
  I am delighted to share with ya all that
  Zen Garden is also featured in the Interconnected Music Media(http://www.ic-musicmedia.com) as song of the Day...its a German Music Web-site
  
  Chek out
  
  
• From: Aditya (@ 160.231.5.174) on: Thu Oct 30 14:00:36 EST 2003
  
  Divakar:
  
  Congratulations!!!
  
  http://www.ic-musicmedia.com/artist_pages/artistpage.php?id=39528&PHPSESSID=734f9981cf87235132b664f08a7d39af
  
  If this is where we can access your music easily...please upload music consistently over there and give a link to it. I find it much better than your geocities link...
  
  Regards,
  Aditya
  
  
  
• From: UV (@ 134.113.4.168) on: Thu Oct 30 14:26:53 EST 2003
  
  divakar I agree with aditya
  kindly post it in a site where we can access,geocities half the time says limits have exceeded.
  hi aditya good to be here after a long gap.
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Thu Oct 30 16:25:25 EST 2003
  
  Aditya, UV
  Thanks! Will do so in the future........
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.77) on: Thu Oct 30 18:04:14 EST 2003
  
  Divakar:
  
  I will upload my file somewhere else soon. BTW, Even though I could appreciate the good music that you ahve created, I am not able to understand the jargon. Care to explain what is impressionism ?
  
  
• From: Divakar (@ 68.106.96.22) on: Fri Oct 31 11:58:29 EST 2003
  
  MS,
  I am not sure this covers everything...you have specific questions on chordal dissonances or harmonic structures shoot them..
  quickly, the name originated from Monet's Painting Impression: SUnrise and there is also a brief story about how his painting was scoffed at by a Critic calling that painting "Impressionistic" and the movement began.
  in case you wanna take a Virtual tour on the different aspects of that chek out http://www.impressionism.org
  We are more interested in how it applies to Music
  but there are a few general characteristics
  1)Themes were generally about scenes from the everyday life, romance, nature, colors as we see as opposed to religious, mythological concepts
  2)Painting as well as Music is very Spontaneous as artists see them without any idealizations whereas the academic paintings tend to be more structured...
  3)Unmixed Colors, blurry images in painting to evoke a sense of light, objects. Unresolved, complex, chordal dissonances and harmonic structures to evoke a similar sense in Music, not necessary could be done in other ways...
  E.g A chord Played has notes E,G#,C,D,F#,A# ( a combination of all the whole tone notes, combination of two complex chords)More needs to be said here...Just because a chord seems to be resonant doesnt mean its impressionistic...Music in general has chord Progressions, harmonic. One need not know all the progressions, but if one plays by ears sure you're gonna sit on some kinda harmonic chord progressions...we are wired that way. Now if you ought to musically say whats happening before your eyes or just an event in front of you how do you do that...we will find necessary to introduce some kinda spontaneity or randomness and music doesnt follow progressions, no structure in the sense like a well developed melody, Infact some of Debussy's peices has just individual chords alone and he being known for unmatched tonal expressions it sounds delicious
  and ofcourse new scales for different emotional needs.....how you paint this in to a impressionistic piece is up to an artist and the listener has to feel a sense of image that the artist is trying to portray usually inferred depending on the state of mind of the listener.
  
  Now Debussy is a Virtuoso Pianist matched only by Ravel..he laid out rules that if you follow for your impressionistic piece (you dont have to, but many did!)you will sound just like his piece...
  
  Quite evident is that none of these are necessary to paint a picture, in that IR piece coupled with the lyrics could add another dimension to the impressionistic view of things.....
  
  Chek out this may be interesting.... http://www.gprep.org/~music/musikbok/chap15.html
  
  
  
• From: Srik (@ 64.80.98.165) on: Fri Oct 31 13:08:26 EST 2003
  
  
  guys,
  Impressionism music
  
  A score where it is
  1. some what free from harmonics
  
  2. music that focuses less on individual parts -
  vocals or melody or solo themes.
  
  3. The score has parts but cannot be split as melody or background. A sound is very unqiue when played together.
  
  Like you will know the sound or the score only when all them are played. If you hear each parts or sound along, they might horrible at times to hear.
  
  

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