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Should janaki stop singing

Topic started by ram (@ 24.47.158.78) on Tue Jan 8 00:08:45 EST 2002.
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I'm an ardent fan of S.Janaki and I consider her to be most talented female singer ever...but of late age has caught up with her divine was and I feel that if she continues to sing then people will start forgetting the great renditions she has rendered and curse her like they do for Kapil dev T.M.Sounderrajan etc....

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• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Jan 8 03:17:36 EST 2002
  
  YES - LM,AB,PS,SJ had better call it quits. PS and LM could have done so even 10 years ago.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.225) on: Tue Jan 8 03:55:34 EST 2002
  
  avr, I take u'r posting as a joke. :-))
  
  ram, SJ need not stop singing when she is getting good chances. She is not given with any kind of songs nowadays. The songs only SJ can sing (mostly) are given to her (unlike LM. I couldn't sit inside the picture hall whenever the Kabhi Kushi song started. I really donno how still MDs choose her. I think she is senior to SJ and PS). Singers like PS and SJ can sing all kind of songs. But that won't be good because the kind of songs those can be sung only by them are very very less. They had proved their talents already. At the same time whenever they get chance, they can sing.
  
  
• From: Mr. Observer (@ 64.105.35.163) on: Tue Jan 8 04:09:50 EST 2002
  
  G. Raghavan , Lata is indeed senior to PS and SJ , by a good 10 years atleast.
  IMO, PS and Lata should have stopped singing in '79 and Asha and SJ by '89. A few grace years can be given to SJ, maybe 5 years atmost.
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.193.40) on: Tue Jan 8 06:09:29 EST 2002
  
  SJ excels in nenjinilae nenjinilae and maargazhi thingal allavaa, vaa vaa poovae vaa. she can stop singing songs like megam udaiththu ( maayi) and muthalvanae muthalvane.
  
  
• From: yvs mani (@ 164.100.193.40) on: Tue Jan 8 06:10:17 EST 2002
  
  SJ excels in nenjinilae nenjinilae and maargazhi thingal allavaa, vaa vaa poovae vaa. she can stop singing songs like megam udaiththu ( maayi) and muthalvanae muthalvane.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Jan 8 06:24:04 EST 2002
  
  G RAGAVAN:
  
  No that was no joke. I have grown up listening to the songs of LM,AB and I was introuduced to SI MUSIC. I love PS,SJ,VJ a lot. But one has to be objective ...PS sounded very tired in pellipustakam (telugu) or in the duet "saagara sangamame" with SPB (telugu). VJs version was far better, but SPB took the cake in that. I have heard PSs recent songs for ARR. I read a review that "she sounds just as good as 50 years ago". I find this statement to be more sarcastic than literally meant :-)
  
  PS and LM could have stopped a long time back, say around 1989 and AB,SJ around 5 years ago.
  
  LM is 72 years old, PS is 67,SJ is 63 or 64, Asha is 68, VJ is 56.
  
  LM started singing MUUUUUUUUUUUCHHH before PS, almost 10-12 years before. In fact LM is the only singer who was already in the film industry at the age of 12, as a well established and regular singer in regional films before she switched to Hindi almost 6-7 years later. I agree with u that KKKG is unbearable. MDs choose LM,PS today because they ARE LM,PS -- the reasons being more emotional than musical.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Jan 8 06:29:12 EST 2002
  
  Generally, the voices of female singers tire much faster...probably due to biological factors....after the age of 50 or so.
  
  Male singers also have to suffer from the effects of bad age,but the ill-effects seem much less. For instanc, KJY sounded pretty good in "His Highness Abdullah" and "aaram thamburan" and "GURU" (Malayalam). SPB still sounds pretty good.
  
  Of course, classical singers take the cake when it comes to aging gracefully.
  
  
• From: raj (@ 198.151.230.253) on: Tue Jan 8 07:10:24 EST 2002
  
  I never Felt that PS's Voice was bad
  Even in Kannuku Mai Azhagu,Unakena Raasa It was Perfect..
  
  Y shld they Stop Singing ...
  SJ sounded Horrible in Mothu mothunu mothanum
  but she sounded good in nenjinile
  
  If they Get chance For nice Songs they can ..
  
  
  
• From: none (@ 24.178.147.172) on: Tue Jan 8 18:18:20 EST 2002
  
  hi all
  who r u guys to decide ...
  s.j is our melody queen we will lisiten to her even if she is 90...
  one who have the sense of music never found her voice as old...
  go and listen enthan nenjil from alli arjuna...then you decide..
  
  one guy told us about motthu motthu song...that saari (slum)girl and a middle class maami will sing like that only.she will not sing like m.s.subbulakshmi....
  listen the voice modulation for the three girls...it is excellent
  
  she will sing TILL HER LAST BREATHE AND WE WILL ISTEN TILL OUR LAST BREATHE
  
  
  
• From: ram (@ 24.47.158.78) on: Tue Jan 8 20:44:48 EST 2002
  
  Hey None,
  there is a limit beyond which one shud be more realistic rather than fanatic....one can obviously find out the difference in her great voic in the past and the shrilling voice now....I do agree that she hasn't gone bad as much as Lata Mangeshkar but I'm afraid if she doesn't retire now she mite also reach such lows in her career....I want her to retire not b'cos of contempt but b'cos of great luv for her voice....I'll not be able to believe if Janaki could sing a horrible song in the future
  
  
• From: Ahila Thanabalan (@ 161.142.100.86) on: Tue Jan 8 21:12:08 EST 2002
  
  I think she should retire in style.She had a golden age then,it is not going to work out the same way again as we can smell her age in her voice.So she should walk out gracefully from singing love songs in movies.She can indeed consentrate on religious songs/carnatic songs in accordance with her age.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Jan 8 22:21:08 EST 2002
  
  Going out when you are at the top of your profession,calibre,status - is the best Swan Song. (I Too bad, Lata Mangeshkar didn't get it. Let's hope S.Janaki does.
  
  PS: AVR - I have a bit of a problem with the biology as destiny argument. In Western music/operatic traditions women have been in top form into their 70s - Cesaria Evora - comes instantly to mind. It is perhaps the scales to which some songs are composed which makes breath-control impossible after a certain age - for both men and women. Lata can still be pleasing in a Door Kahin Ik Aam Ki Bagiya (Zubeidaa - ARR - compare this to Humko Hamise Churalo - and you'll get my drift) - but she can't do a Rasik Balmaa today. Same for SJ - She can't go back to the Singaravelane Vela days. She can be good at lower octave numbers. But I think it is upto the artist, when they choose to retire. Keep and image of the Glory Days and gracefully make way for others or chase the money forever. That's the crux.
  
  
• From: ram (@ 24.47.158.78) on: Tue Jan 8 23:18:03 EST 2002
  
  Naaz,
  well said.....If it is money Janaki is running after then nothing can syop her from repeating another TMS.....If she retires now the very thought of SJ will bring back only excellent renditions she has made....
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 63.21.181.78) on: Wed Jan 9 00:17:08 EST 2002
  
  I feel the "voice-aging" is also due to "vehement use" besides other factors ie the "wear and tear" philosophy holds good here also. What do you think.
  
  
• From: madhu (@ 203.200.7.245) on: Wed Jan 9 00:56:13 EST 2002
  
  guys just listen the telugu version of September maasam(alai paayuthe)
  Still SJanaki has excellent voice
  Please guys listen that song
  then you will never ask her to retire
  She is GREAT
  
  
• From: ram (@ 24.47.158.78) on: Wed Jan 9 01:42:29 EST 2002
  
  Madhu,
  No doubt that her voice still has greatness but honestly it when compared to what it used to be in the past it has worsened quite a bit...Itz always nice to retire when u are at the highest level much before u have areal bad day....
  she has proved her greatness and that is enough retain her name as an everlasting one...
  also there are quite a few young talented singers around so she should leave way to them gracefully
  
  
• From: eden (@ 61.1.250.241) on: Wed Jan 9 04:06:03 EST 2002
  
  As long as she gets `chance' to sing, why should she stop? To me `nenjinilE' is one of the best from ARR & it's by SJ! I liked `mudhalvanE' too, though it's a typical ARR song:-)
  
  
• From: unmaivilambi (@ 63.75.49.120) on: Wed Jan 9 12:29:53 EST 2002
  
  SJ can stop singing the day IR stops composing music.
  
  
• From: rasigan (@ 204.154.71.125) on: Wed Jan 9 14:20:43 EST 2002
  
  SJ & PS are still good. I think we put their age and physical appearence in front of us when we hear their songs and that is the reason we may be biased.
  
  TMS last few songs like 'En kadhai mudiyum neramidhu', 'annakili unna thedudhe' are also good . If he sounds diferent it is because the MD's and the directors wanted it like that . If u hear 'Avalukkum thamizh yendru per', which came many many years ago he is very similar to those songs..Sometimes the MD's ask them to over-do a song (like the so called overacting of sivaji), but that is just yet another way these talented singers can sing a song.
  
  I think TMS, PS, SJ are so gifted that they can all sing songs all their life !!
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Wed Jan 9 16:27:44 EST 2002
  
  Nobody can stop SJ from singing as long as she is alive. Only she can. (And that depends on how she wants her legacy to be remembered after she is gone.)
  
  
• From: ram_tm@rediffmail.com (@ 24.47.158.78) on: Wed Jan 9 18:41:37 EST 2002
  
  Naaz,
  u r rite i only wish she realises that although her voice doesn't sound horrible it is no where near what it used to be a few yrs back and leave the stage to youngsters gracefully
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Thu Jan 10 01:13:19 EST 2002
  
  7yes & ilayaraja should give up composing
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Thu Jan 10 02:09:07 EST 2002
  
  S.Janaki singing for "college" girl characters - portrayed by Reema Sen or some fresh newcomer of today's films is like having Jaishankar or Sivakumar still play a "college" boy in today's films. Only Jaishankar will watch. Only S.Janaki will listen.
  Both things are not in our control, however.
  As the saying goes: Fools rush in, where angels fear to tread.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Thu Jan 10 02:10:33 EST 2002
  
  Vengayam - I don't know about IR retiring from composing - but he should have retired from singing right after his first song!!
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Fri Jan 11 00:03:53 EST 2002
  
  naaz, i totally agree I drew lot of flak elsewhere in the forum for calling a spade a spade re. Ilayaraja's vocal (dis)abilities
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Fri Jan 11 01:39:54 EST 2002
  
  why should IR retire from composing?? I strongly disagree. he is Indias greatest composer.
  
  

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