Topic started by Sajeev Raj (@ 210.195.144.64) on Sat Apr 13 22:31:21 EDT 2002.
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Bombay Dreams is releasing in June 2002
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- From: poramai (@ 151.201.30.41)
on: Mon Jun 3 21:38:27 EDT 2002
yaroo, I just see some emotions pouring out from you, outrightly without swearing in on anything i would discount 90% from your posting. Life sucks in newtfmpage.com.:(
- From: ARRFAN (@ 202.156.2.131)
on: Mon Jun 3 23:41:02 EDT 2002
well maybe u haven't heard the whole album yet but i can safely say that only 5% of the songs are his old tunes. the rest are fresh so no worries people
- From: ARRFAN (@ 202.156.2.131)
on: Mon Jun 3 23:41:44 EDT 2002
sorry i meant maybe u haven't seen the song listing yet. no one would have heard the whole alubm yet :)
- From: yaaro (@ 213.121.212.121)
on: Tue Jun 4 05:55:06 EDT 2002
poramai-If you have the time to go thru my poatings-just c and p one sentence from me telling ARR's work in BD is crap-I will stop posting in df.this stroyline sucks-and it sucks BIG time.
ok children,
It is BD storytime.dont worry about spoilers.we ,who have been fed on a staple diet of stories with a thosand movies like this will do a better job.
Akash is a slum boy,whose favorite film star is rani.he sees all her movies asap and moons about her.as is typical in indian movies,he has no job .he lives on a slum with lot of his freinds some of whom are eunuchs.
on second thoughts,i will rather not waste your and my time by typing out this drivel of a storyline.see it if you can and suffer!
is it only 8 songs-well,atleast 3 of the songs are repeated more than twice.the ishq bina humming is all pervading.
- From: yaaro (@ 213.121.212.121)
on: Tue Jun 4 06:00:01 EDT 2002
//outrightly without swearing in on anything i would discount 90% from your posting. //
discount 100 pc-THAT will keep both of us happy:-)
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.16)
on: Tue Jun 4 07:48:25 EDT 2002
For the record, Yaaro has been as impartial as a moderate HCIRF can. :)
Please give him the credit. ARR fans are expected to swoon over the music and we can also dismiss a great portion of it.
....and moons about her
Where I live, to moon is to show the bare rear side. :)
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Tue Jun 4 12:39:14 EDT 2002
Yes, we have to appriciate yaaro for his opinions. When, you are a big fan of some body, you always have him in your mind when ever you speak any thing regarding what that artist is related to. There goes a big fight with in yourself in favour and against that artist. You want to be critical of that artist but your favourism stops you. This also is in the same way, when you speak of the rival. But, if you still try to be a little neutral, then you are quite a genuine person.
- From: Sam (@ 132.235.18.15)
on: Tue Jun 4 17:17:52 EDT 2002
Yaaro, u said Rahman used chorals extensively in this musical. Can u write more on that? Like any accapellas? Was it 3 or 4 voices as in Smayiyaay or large number of voices, as in the Lagaan theme music or Mudhalvane ending? How did they sound?
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.48.162)
on: Tue Jun 4 18:44:58 EDT 2002
At any given time for most the song sequences there are atleast 25 artistes on the stage.you are correct in mentioning lagaan or mudhalvan type of songs or even that song in Indian.
CF and rotfl,thanx for the support:-)
I knew people will be a bit suspicious when I say anything.I always check everything twice before clicking on that post button-particularlyin this thread which I know is an emotional thread for ARR fans who have been looking forward to this album for a longtime.They are obviously better judges of his music-But I stand by all I have said reg the story.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Wed Jun 5 12:32:16 EDT 2002
Let me put it bit clearly.
Yaroo is not happy with the story alone. He says that the story is the weakest link.
Regarding the music he has said that it sounded good and one british fellow sitting besides him did say the same thing. So, yaroo is happy with the music. Now, such a certificate from an intense fan of IR is more than what you can ask for. So, lets end this chapter here and wait for any others to comment of BD live show.
- From: SaNjEeV (@ 195.93.34.173)
on: Wed Jun 5 15:16:08 EDT 2002
I went to see BD on Monday with a press friend. Although the show itself was glamorous and showy, ARR's music failed to impress. The many Asians who were there to view the show also shared similiar opinion about the songs. Had ARR composed a full batch of new songs, without using his previous releases, BD could have been a good show.
The vocals by Preeya Kalidas were average and I feel a better singer could have been choseen for the lead. The musical overall would be rated as distinctly average and I predict that it will run for 6 months tops, this is in comparison to other ALW musicals that have run for 15-25 years.
- From: bm (@ 67.115.107.123)
on: Wed Jun 5 19:23:52 EDT 2002
The ppl who are unhappy with Rahman's old scores should consider the fact that it must have been ALW's choice rather than ARR's to choose them. Since it is his first outing in the musicals scene,he could not have called the shots with song selection etc ! Having said that, i would have definitely liked to listen to new ARR scores in place of the recycled numbers.
But i know that not all ALW productions are as successful as Cats or Phantom. Even the terrific Sunset Boulevard was not a big hit despite some wonderful songs . Aspects of love had some of the most beautiful ballads but it still didnt do as well as Cats or Phantom or even "Joseph ..." . His "Whistle down the wind "was also a flop . So may be it doesnt really matter to the Musicals scene or to ALW that BD may recieve only luke warm repsonse . iT doesnt necessarily mean that the Musical failed because of ARR'S scores but only here in newtfmpage it would be considered as a BIG failure etc.:)
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Thu Jun 6 08:37:07 EDT 2002
yaaro, thx for keeping the promise u made mths ago. Made a gd read.
- From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21)
on: Fri Jun 7 17:25:30 EDT 2002
check out new samples of bombay dreams at www.bombaydreamsthemusical.com
out of 7 new samples, only one completely 'new' song, rest are recycled ones, although rahman has changed them a lot, just like shakalaka baby.
raycas
- From: yaaro (@ 195.93.49.162)
on: Fri Jun 7 18:38:29 EDT 2002
WN,
welcome.why we are not seeing more of you?it seems a bit dull without you and ROTFL both of whom have suddenly gone into hibernation.come back ROTFL-all forgiven!
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.63)
on: Sat Jun 8 02:42:04 EDT 2002
I am very much around, Yaaro.
And while you are at using my own statements against me, pray tell what you have forgiven? :)
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Sat Jun 8 12:11:02 EDT 2002
On Shakkalakka Baby.
--courtesy ARRYG
http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/asiannetwork/music_bombay_dreams.shtml
On hearing A R Rahman's music for the first time, Andrew Lloyd Webber
was whisked away to the far away land of the Taj Mahal, India. For
this was no ordinary composer he was listening to but a `melodious
genius'.
Without further ado, he invited Rahman over to the UK and asked him
to compose the music that we are about to hear in all its glory in
the eagerly awaited new musical play, `Bombay Dreams'.
With lyrics provided by Don Black, who is noted for his love ballads
in West End musicals such as `Aspects of Love', `Starlight Express'
and the more recent `Sunset Boulevard', and composition provided by
A. R. Rahman, the end result is a fusion of two worlds, (West and
East) colliding together to form the spectacular fantasy of two
lovers sharing one dream.
`Shakalaka Baby', performed by the actress Preeya Kalidas, is one
fine example of this joint effort by the two artists. It is a
wonderful song which mixes lyrics from two continents together and
provides us with a catchy fast track, just in time for the summer.
A romantic love theme runs the whole way through the song and it will
do well in the shops when it is released as a single, very soon.
Don't let the musical play connections put you off either, because
this track without a doubt will be played in clubs and disco halls up
and down the country.
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Sun Jun 9 07:50:10 EDT 2002
"why we are not seeing more of you?it seems a bit dull without you and ROTFL both of whom have suddenly gone into hibernation."
No sinister reasons yaaro. good ole days of traineeship at work r over and self has been thrusted into a full-on job. besides, i dont need internet at work, so i only surf at home. so life's diff these days. and i dont enjoy shift-work anymore either, so it's work all day long. but i'll continue to post here anyway, so hcirfs need not celebrate yet. :-)
- From: hcirf ;) (@ 203.199.231.27)
on: Sun Jun 9 07:58:48 EDT 2002
cha :)
- From: hcarrf (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Sun Jun 9 23:49:42 EDT 2002
too bad for hcirf :(
- From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Mon Jun 10 07:04:06 EDT 2002
Post from ARRYG by Gopal Srinivasan:
"Sony Music To Acquire Rights Of 6 Hindi Films
Krishna Gopalan
The Financial Express
Mumbai: Sony Music Entertainment India (SMEI) will acquire the music
rights of six Hindi films during the current year. This will be in
addition to acquisition of nine non-film albums.
Elaborating on the plans, SMEI managing director Shridhar Subramaniam
said the last two film projects had received a good response from the
market. “Kya Dil Ne Kaha” and “Kehta Hai Dil Baar Baar” are the two
recent releases from Sony Music.
“We have already broken even on these two films and remain optimistic
about their performance” said Mr Subram-aniam. While “Kya Dil Ne Kaha”
has sold a million units, “Kehta Hai Dil Baar Baar” has clocked around
four lakh units so far. The company would not divulge the acquisition
cost for the music of these films.
The company had acquired the music rights of Mukesh Bhatt’s “Encounter”
which will be launched towards the end of August. “We are in talks with
several producers and we expect these discussions to bear results over
the next few month” said Mr Subramaniam.
Among the other projects on the anvil are the musical “Bombay Dreams”
and an album by Sandeep Chowta. “Bombay Dreams” is the famous
co-production of AR Rahman and Sir Andrew Lloyd Webber. The other
albums, he added, were “Dance Masti - Part 3” and an instrumental
series from AR Rahman.
Sony Music India is expected to close the current financial year (FY03)
with a turnover of around Rs 60 crore from last year’s Rs 80 crore. Mr
Subramaniam clarified that while turnover figures had dropped,
profitability would actually increase."
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Mon Jun 10 08:27:46 EDT 2002
From Planet bolywood
http://www.planetbollywood.com/Features/s060902-024539.html
By: Mandeep Bahra
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Music: A. R. Rahman
Lyrics: Don Black (Wedding Qawwali- Sukhwinder Singh) (Chiayya Chaiyya- Gulzar)
Written by: Meera Syal
Original Concept: Shekhar Kapur & Andrew Lloyd Webber
Choreography: Anthony Van Laast & Farah Khan
Director: Steven Pimlott
Producers: Andrew Lloyd Webber & The Really Useful Theatre Company
Starring: Raza Jaffery, Preeya Khalidas, Ayesha Dharkar, Raj Ghatak, Shelley King, Raad Rawi, Dalip Tahil, Ramon Tikaram
After two years of hearing about it, "Bombay Dreams" has finally hit London’s West End! The show brings together a talented cast, masters of previous stage musicals and the music of Bollywood maestro A. R. Rahman. Is this a winning combination? Read on…………
Bombay Dreams tells the story of aspiring Bollywood hero, Akaash (Raza Jaffrey), who lives in the slums and dreams of one day being on the silver screen with his favourite actress, Rani. While the majority of the other slum dwellers mock him, Akaash is supported by friendly eunuch, Sweetie (played brilliantly by Raj Ghatak) and mother figure, Shanti (Adlyn Ross). Akaash’s community are threatened by an anonymous, rich business man who is trying to destroy their home in order to build a new cinema complex.
A chance meeting with bollywood big-wig, Madan Kumar (Dalip Tahil), catapults Akaash to stardom and into Madan’s film opposite Rani! After donning the weird alien make-up for Star Wars: Episode II, Ayesha Dharker does a great job as the spoilt, buxom Bollywood babe, Rani. Enter Madan’s beautiful daughter, Priya (Preeya Khalidas), who believes in "serious" films rather than her father’s masala movies. Akaash falls for Priya but she is engaged to Vikram (Ramon Tikaram), who is a lawyer working secretly with mafia don, JK (Raad Rawi). JK is the anonymous business man trying to destroy the slum and is also trying to take over Madan’s company.
Will Akaash and Priya have a happy ending to their love story? Does Akaash still care about the slum dwellers now that he is famous, enough to save their home? Bombay Dreams will answer these questions with a lot of song and dance, Bollywood style!
The Highlights:
· There are three spectacularly staged numbers. "Shakalaka Baby" is done in true Bollywood style, complete with rain to get Akaash and Rani dripping wet by the end.
· Akaash and Rani also lip-synch to the original "Chaiyya Chaiyya" at an ‘awards function’ (not too dissimilar to Filmfare). Choreographer, Farah Khan’s contribution is obvious in this number.
· The third spectacle is the "Wedding Qawwali" which is performed on a lavish set and is a real treat for the eyes and ears!
· Another highlight is Dalip Tahil’s "Don’t Release Me" - who knew this Bollywood actor could sing!
· The lead pair (Raza Jaffrey and Preeya Khalidas) have great singing voices.
· Raj Ghatak’s portrayal of Sweetie. He clearly received the most rapturous applause at the end.
The Lowlights:
· Meera Syal’s script is packed with way too many clichés from ‘70’s Bollywood cinema and so doesn’t really reflect current Bollywood. Although, the clichés do provide much amusement. The fight scene in the finale is ridiculous and Akaash’s rant of "Haramzaade! Main tera khoon pi jaoonga!" sounds more like a spoof than genuine dialogue.
· The music is definitely not a lowlight and will be lapped up by the western audiences. However, those familiar with Bollywood will have heard most of the tunes before, leaving you feeling a lack of originality. English lyrics have been set to popular Rahman tunes like, "Ishq Bina" (Taal), "Shakalaka Baby" (Nayak), "Rangeela Re" (Rangeela), "Ooh La La La" (Sapnay), etc. They are all enjoyable but I think Indian audiences may feel a little cheated.
The good points far outweigh the bad and so, Bombay Dreams gets the big ‘Thumbs Up’. There’s really never been a show like this before and I hope it paves the way for more interesting collaborations.
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