Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)
"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."
Wow! Beautiful voice!
VaniJairam.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.
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- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Tue Mar 30 16:39:29 EST 2004
"I am now trying to learn more about/ listen to more of RN’s songs :) "
-Yeah, please do and then I can learn from you as well. But Ramesh Naidu sparkled in Telugu cinema perhaps for two decades or so. He, however, doesn't have the same charisma that KVMahadevan, IR and ARR demand. I always wonder though - he used Vani sparingly, particularly in Telugu. I am not exactly sure why. He was a big fan of PS and SJ (lot of songs with them). And the song Talat sang is indeed special. It is not like the careless nature in pronunciation that Northie singers exhibit these days. His delivery of the song is pretty good, including the language. Good stuff from RN.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Tue Mar 30 16:40:03 EST 2004
"I am now trying to learn more about/ listen to more of RN’s songs :) "
-Yeah, please do and then I can learn from you as well. But Ramesh Naidu sparkled in Telugu cinema perhaps for two decades or so. He, however, doesn't have the same charisma that KVMahadevan, IR and ARR demand. I always wonder though - he used Vani sparingly, particularly in Telugu. I am not exactly sure why. He was a big fan of PS and SJ (lot of songs with them). And the song Talat sang is indeed special. It is not like the careless nature in pronunciation that Northie singers exhibit these days. His delivery of the song is pretty good, including the language. Good stuff from RN.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Tue Mar 30 17:12:33 EST 2004
"I am now trying to learn more about/ listen to more of RN’s songs :) "
-Yeah, please do and then I can learn from you as well. But Ramesh Naidu sparkled in Telugu cinema perhaps for two decades or so. He, however, doesn't have the same charisma that KVMahadevan, IR and ARR demand. I always wonder though - he used Vani sparingly, particularly in Telugu. I am not exactly sure why. He was a big fan of PS and SJ (lot of songs with them). And the song Talat sang is indeed special. It is not like the careless nature in pronunciation that Northie singers exhibit these days. His delivery of the song is pretty good, including the language. Good stuff from RN.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Tue Mar 30 17:13:32 EST 2004
"I am now trying to learn more about/ listen to more of RN’s songs :) "
-Yeah, please do and then I can learn from you as well. But Ramesh Naidu sparkled in Telugu cinema perhaps for two decades or so. He, however, doesn't have the same charisma that KVMahadevan, IR and ARR demand. I always wonder though - he used Vani sparingly, particularly in Telugu. I am not exactly sure why. He was a big fan of PS and SJ (lot of songs with them). And the song Talat sang is indeed special. It is not like the careless nature in pronunciation that Northie singers exhibit these days. His delivery of the song is pretty good, including the language. Good stuff from RN.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Tue Mar 30 17:16:26 EST 2004
"I am now trying to learn more about/ listen to more of RN’s songs :) "
-Yeah, please do and then I can learn from you as well. But Ramesh Naidu sparkled in Telugu cinema perhaps for two decades or so. He, however, doesn't have the same charisma that KVMahadevan, IR and ARR demand. I always wonder though - he used Vani sparingly, particularly in Telugu. I am not exactly sure why. He was a big fan of PS and SJ (lot of songs with them). And the song Talat sang is indeed special. It is not like the careless nature in pronunciation that Northie singers exhibit these days. His delivery of the song is pretty good, including the language. Good stuff from RN.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Tue Mar 30 17:19:28 EST 2004
I absolutely did not intend to emphatically express my view like I did above:-) My computer is doing the tricks. It is easy to blame it, isn't it?
- From: @ (@ 24.8.46.194)
on: Tue Mar 30 19:41:43 EST 2004
How about the song 'Hello Hello Darling Do you hear me' from Swayamkrushi by SPB and SJ.
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Thu Apr 1 09:34:18 EST 2004
Saravanan -
Scrolling Up:
Kannukku Nee Oru Kanniponnu
The simplicity of the duet is deceptive. The tune is hummable and the words are clear and flow in metric cascades. It is this quality that charmingly masks the diction and the syntactical twists therein. "Nee Ottaram Pannuvadhenadio" The varied nuances on "Pannuvadhenadio" is an obvious example, but the song is sprinkled with such auditory discoveries (I listened to 4 times to and each time I marveled at "Indha Ulagam Ariya Pillai Kurumbu..." - what precision both VJ and SGR display!
Kannalam Kattaame Kadhavu Thaappa Podaame...
The solo shines. SGs interludes are (surprisingly) soft, and I thought I even heard a santoor in there somewhere! The uncluttered arrangement, the "rustic" feel, and VJs grasp of the idiom are all evidenced throughout.
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About "Amnesia" - I think the joke was (and perhaps still is) on the audience.
From Thaen Mazhai, and all the way up (and down) to Moondram Pirai, the amnesia bandwagoners have all demonstrated that they cannot but depend on damaged memory of the viewer (the filmmakers remember all too well) and endure yet another round of boxing (and boxed-in) memory. It is curious how such films tease and truncate our faculties, surfacing and submerging our collective memory, our willing (and forgiving) forgetfulness.
Call me weird, but I thought Moondram Pirai was a piece of sexist schlock and would have been long forgotten (sic) or never been made had Shoba been alive and around.
Not that it would have stopped BM from the films he made (or makes) which, in the final analysis, are more revealing of him than anything else on the screen. Veedu was the exception.
I could go on. :-)
- From: OISG (@ 217.165.96.226)
on: Thu Apr 1 15:01:52 EST 2004
Ramesh Naidu made 1 or 2 movies for children.I think one of them even got a national award.Sivaranjani is an all time classic.But even Dasari Narayan Rao who had releases every friday used RN sparingly.It is pity that RN,Shyam were marginalised for Chakravarthi in Telegu Films.Hmmm....
Srirangano is an all time favourite.Again the chemistry between PJ and VJ working out to perfection.Despite the fact that this song falls short of ?marathvam,i am able to visualize the faces of Vijyakumar and Sripriya.Kudos to the team.
Talat singing for RN in Telugu,Bhimsen Joshi singing for GKV in Kannada ,what other surprises you have in store for us? It looks from Kaumudi's post that the song did not fall under "Bakkamma ekkada pothora,ikkada ikadda ra" category.Thats heartening news.
Karate Kamala - Do not suprise us further with Judo Jalaja.VJ herself must be suffering from amnesia about Karate Kamala songs!
Borrowing the term from Naaz, I find SG trying to overindulge in "Kannukku nee oru".(somehow i in my memory trays i have placed this one with Ethanai malargaL thavum from Pattam poochi - may be the overstepping male voice is the common denominator!).Muthama is an easy tune and SG used almost the same tune in Seppukudam,Ala marathu Kili.
- From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.89)
on: Thu Apr 1 17:23:23 EST 2004
:)
- From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219)
on: Thu Apr 1 20:02:50 EST 2004
OISG -
"Borrowing the term from Naaz, I find SG trying..."
"Trying" does not belong exclusively to me. I must, however, admit that "to try" is my motto / credo / goal :-)
- From: Neel D (@ 24.99.73.73)
on: Sat Apr 3 00:52:53 EST 2004
kaNNukku nI oru kannippoNNu
A folk melody wonderfully composed by Shankar-Ganesh. If you just listen to the instruments you cannot really tell if the mood is happiness or sadness. It alternates back and forth. The sad part is sad, but happy is not really too happy. The song is full of energy but the song lines are gloomy. There is extreme sadness. Who can bear to see a member of the family suffer. But, however sad the couple may be, they are really singing to a child, and hence all that faked happy, energeticness. The man feels totally helpless and expresses it in his words. But the woman seems to have accepted the fact as her lines do not dwell too much on the plight of the young woman but simply sees a child in her place (is this an example of women adjusting to changes more easily than men). She takes care of the nurturing and lets the man do the worrying. Carefully written lines by Maruthakasi. A clear understanding of the situation, and a great imagination of the psychology of the characters. Great work by the lyricist and the composers.
Coming to the singers Vani and Seerkazi. From start till end the two voices sing the song with involvement, and it shows in their energy, expression and pronunciation. Listen to how they belt out the song right from the opening syllable. How they sing the whole song from the gut. Contrast that to the singers today who can only sing from this side of the throat. Vani tries to look at the lighter side of the situation. She expresses a little fun in the voice, like when one plays with a child, but she is well aware of the situation and keeps her play subdued. What can I say about Seerkazhi! He makes even folk music sound classical.
- From: Neel D (@ 24.99.73.73)
on: Sat Apr 3 13:34:54 EST 2004
kaNNAlam kattAmE
vaigai, vALai mIn, mAmadurai chokkalinggam, suruLimalai vElan,.. is Maruthakasi from Madurai area? He does know the geography and the history. He says all that in unassuming lines. 'kaNNan mavan mammuthanO' - he knows the mythology too. Yet his wide knowledge is modestly interspersed in folksy song lines. Can't help but think about the pretentious and loose use and occasional misuse of literary words in the recent film songs (yAkkai thiri, aRRai thinggaLil anRil paRavai, etc.)
How beautiful it is to imagine 'vaigai perugi vara vALai mIn thuLLi vara' (though it will remain just wishful thinking).
Vani sings this folk song (like all other folk sings she has sung) with absolute authority in country dialect, ease and clarity. Listen to this song then follow it with "Happiest Moment", "Anathiniyara", "nAnE nAnA", GitaGovindam and "ammAdiyO" and wonder how she morphs so easily and fits perfectly and comfortably.
Saravanan, thanks for resuming the Chronology and for the of songs (a country feast). I have not overlooked the other songs (kathai sollum, devathai oruththi, etc.) but I was swept off my feet by the number of folk songs in this instalment and their nativity. In the last ten years or so, folk songs in TFM have become too synthetic, in my opinion.
- From: susi (@ 24.203.61.204)
on: Sat Apr 3 14:04:33 EST 2004
Do anyone have Pandia Mannanin Rajakumari Payinkili kaiyil yenthiye thevi song by vani???
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