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Law against vulgarity and porn soon

Topic started by pc (@ 210.210.39.43) on Fri Feb 6 03:07:48 EST 2004.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

A request has been made in the Tamilnadu's State Legislature to pass laws to prohibit vulgar songs like 'Manmadaraasa' and 'Kalyaanamthaan kattikittu'.

Tamil film songs are vulgar and it is impossible for people to watch these films with their families. Most of the dialogues have double meanings. Will these things be stopped?" asked an MLA from PMK.


Minister Jayakumar replied,


"Vulgarity in songs and film dialogues is a social issue. Law can prevent this problem.


Though you can take legal actions against it, there has to be a change in the mindsets of the people. There are songs like 'Naan ready, neenga readiya? Call phone-a maarivida naan ready, adhila Sim Card-a maarivida neenga readiya?' and 'Kalyaanamthaan kattikittu odi polaama' 'illai pullakutti pethukittu kattikilaama'. People should boycott such songs.


DMK MLA Duraimurgan reminded the Assembly of the 'Manmadaraasa' song.


Jayakumar replied,

"I haven't seen the film yet. You might have. Such songs really hurt our conscience. Taking legal measures can really stop such songs. I'm going to take this to the attention of our CM."

http://www.cinesouth.com/masala/hotnews/new/06022004-5.shtml

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Responses:

• From: aishwarya (@ 202.156.2.122) on: Fri Feb 6 04:30:38 EST 2004
  
  good thing...some ppl r singing dating from boys without knowing the meaning...well pa.vijay is getting worser each day!!
  
  
• From: Black Hawk (@ 130.225.53.16) on: Fri Feb 6 04:50:26 EST 2004
  
  Songs nowadays should not be taken that seriously. People have different taste and if they like vulgar songs they should listen to them. The problem is that shildren hears and sings the songs without knowing the meaning of those. All you can do is count on the cencor will cut the vulgar parts away. Politicians are more concerned about cinema rather common people, how thoughtful of them.
  
  If you listen to manmatha raasa and kalyanam than katti kuttu instead of dance to those there's something wrong with you.
  
  
• From: a well wisher (@ 61.1.237.94) on: Fri Feb 6 08:43:35 EST 2004
  
  aishwary u had 2 boys on the bed now u r saying dating is a vulgar song or the word D-A-T-I-N-G IS VULGAR
  dating song doesnt have any vulgarity u fool
  it is the way of meeting new peoples making friend
  nee on aathke po maa
  
  r u from Oxford
  u idiot
  go and learn english then come back to this thread ( u **** ) u can fill the stars
  
  
• From: aishwarya (@ 202.156.2.122) on: Fri Feb 6 08:49:56 EST 2004
  
  WTH!!i know d-a-t-i-n-g is not vulgar...'kadhalicha karpum pogathe' is kinda vulgar to me....maybe not to u...and mind ur words...i understand wat they r trying to say in the song....ok??!i am sure i am not from oxford....comparing it with vairamuthu its vulgar...so dun argue anymore...sorry if u dun like my opinion...i dun give a damn!
  
  
• From: joe (@ 202.156.2.90) on: Fri Feb 6 09:01:07 EST 2004
  
  from: joe klein
  
  btw de way wu de hell is aishwarya has she slept wit a couple of guys or wat. bitch!!!!!
  
  
• From: V (@ 63.73.213.5) on: Fri Feb 6 09:59:16 EST 2004
  
  These are the same MLAs who would sleep with ppl like Bhvaneshwari actress and next day show veerappu in assembly becos they dont remember any news or issue but they remember the manmadharasa song they watched in SUn TV the previous night.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Fri Feb 6 13:11:21 EST 2004
  
  What exactly was vulgar about manmatha raasaa song?
  
  
• From: C~P (@ 61.1.202.172) on: Fri Feb 6 13:22:10 EST 2004
  
  Yup, same question. I don't see anything wrong in it as far as I know. How come there is no talk about May Maasam 98? That has the 'horriblest' lyrics that a song can ever have!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Fri Feb 6 15:01:38 EST 2004
  
  Manmadha raasa - Probably has got to do with the picturization and not the lyrics, have seen the song only in parts. But the song definitely sounded cheap thanks to the horrible female voice. And nothing original to speak of too,sounded like a remix of several old dappanguthu hits. It was a moderate hit in the B and C centers.There was another pathetic song called vandarkuzhali or something which I heard was a straight lift.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 206.154.118.2) on: Fri Feb 6 16:19:08 EST 2004
  
  Vijay, that is okay, but nothing to be censored, though.
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 68.88.12.171) on: Fri Feb 6 16:27:20 EST 2004
  
  lol u take the lyrics to mean wateva u want...if u find it vulgar maybe u should ask urself "is it the song that is vulgar or is it me that is vulgar?"
  
  ahma no one forces the song upon u if u dont like the songs then dont listen to it.just stop listening and move on god these politicians and ppl who complain of such dumb things make me realize why india is in such a rut.there r problems to solve, why are ppl trying to solve things that are not even problems.
  
  
• From: curryleaf (@ 24.21.55.18) on: Fri Feb 6 17:54:49 EST 2004
  
  Piratheepan,
  
  "lol u take the lyrics to mean wateva u want...if u find it vulgar maybe u should ask urself "is it the song that is vulgar or is it me that is vulgar?" <----- Nice :).
  
  =======
  
  Anyway,
  
  I dont think the songs mentioned here are vulgar... perhaps one or two words could have been avoided...
  
  I think "Thinnathey" from Paarthaen Rasithaen is somewhat vulgar, but I admit, I do have my mind in the gutter from time to time, so I ruined that song for me... Same goes for "Kokku meenai" - Kovil...
  
  Things like this happen, I avoid the songs ;).
  
  
• From: CMU (@ 128.2.72.227) on: Fri Feb 6 20:33:58 EST 2004
  
  If you want to hear...and see what you want... that is your prerogative. But families and general public have different needs...just as Janet Jackson exposing on national tv caused an outrage (this in a country that has a multi-billion dollar pornography industry). FCC is preparing to take stern action. Vulgarity in the main stream should be controlled. And it is about time, the government did something to keep the main stream media like movies and tvs in check.
  
  In our culture we have different notions on what is vulgar or obscene and in many cases it is very different from the west. And making a case from the western viewpoint is questionable. Whatever the politicians do in their own time is their... but in this case they are just exposuing the public opinion (votes my man!)
  
  SO YOU SEE... MAIN STREAM IS DIFFERENT AND OUR CULTURE IS DIFFERENT
  
  
• From: CMU (@ 128.2.72.227) on: Fri Feb 6 20:43:54 EST 2004
  
  Joe...If you have an argument to make, do it without vulgarities. I am sure you do not want to be censored.
  
  
• From: CMU (@ 128.2.72.227) on: Fri Feb 6 20:44:08 EST 2004
  
  Joe...If you have an argument to make, do it without vulgarities. I am sure you do not want to be censored.
  
  
• From: rs (@ 61.11.75.49) on: Sat Feb 7 02:10:37 EST 2004
  
  Law against vulgarity and porn soon
  Topic started by pc (@ 210.210.39.43) on Fri Feb 6 03:07:48 EST 2004.
  All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
  
  
  A request has been made in the Tamilnadu's State Legislature to pass laws to prohibit vulgar messages posted in TFM forums especially in ilaiayaraja and A.R.Rahman related forums
  
  Tamil film Music discussion forums are vulgar and it is impossible for people to read these messages with their families. Most of the dialogues have direct foul meanings. Will these things be stopped?" asked an MLA from PMK.
  
  
  Minister Jayakumar replied,
  
  Vulgarity in songs forum is a social issue. Law can prevent this problem.
  
  
  Though you can take legal actions against it, there has to be a change in the mindsets of the people who write to the forum. People should boycott such threads
  
  DMK MLA Duraimurgan reminded the Assembly of the 'ARR vs HJ' thread.
  
  Jayakumar replied,
  
  "I haven't seen the thread yet. You might have. Such messages really hurt our conscience. Taking legal measures can really stop such postings. I'm going to take this to the attention of our CM."
  
  
  MESSAGE : Vulgarity and Porn is present everywhere. Bfore talking about cleanliness of the street, one should first keep their house clean
  
  
• From: sim (@ 213.185.126.18) on: Sat Feb 7 02:42:30 EST 2004
  
  good parody, rs.
  
  
• From: Piratheepan (@ 67.66.201.77) on: Sat Feb 7 09:24:26 EST 2004
  
  CMU,
  
  there is a difference between mainstream media and regular media. SUperbowl was live, and no one coulda done n e thing or warned n e one abt the halftime show. Movies,songs etc which are prerecorded u can tell the people "u might find this suggested so be prepared" like they do in america.
  
  ur example was a very lame example with the superbowl.the media just needs sumthin to talk abt and nuthin was happenin so they made a big deal over the superbowl halftime show.
  
  
• From: dubukku (@ 219.65.106.193) on: Sat Feb 7 11:39:24 EST 2004
  
  heard a song from jai,i don't remember them,but when i saw for the 1st time,i was shocked,how worst was the picturisation,the words as well as the picturisation was vulgar!
  
  
• From: curryleaf (@ 24.21.55.18) on: Sat Feb 7 14:07:08 EST 2004
  
  Hmmm.... That reminds me...
  
  there was another song in Jai and they the 2 were dancing or singing or whatever.. and the background, there was this banner or post kinda thing... and words like, passion and some other stuff sprinkled around a big fat version of "SEX". I thought that was interesting
  
  
• From: CMU (@ 128.2.72.227) on: Sat Feb 7 14:28:58 EST 2004
  
  Piratheepan,
  
  Live TV or not... it finally comes down to content management. FCC (Federal Communications Commission) has placed the onus on television channels to manage their content. A regulatory body cannot approve every program that is being aired on television. So, recorded or live, it is about owning responsibility for content that is broadcast. So if television channels cannot control what they air...then they shouldn't do it. And also it was not media that blew this out of proportion, it was the FCC that was furious. This area is part of my course work. If you read on FCC's past actions you would know. Take care
  
  
• From: V (@ 69.136.137.141) on: Sat Feb 7 16:34:36 EST 2004
  
  CMU
  
  what you are talking is idealistic.
  
  Can you come up with one argument on how that particular incident was within the hands of the TV channel to control it?? Atleast at that time or before it?
  
  What they can do in the future is pass a legislation that makes all TV channels enforce a signed declaration on performers that can entail a law-suit in some obvious circumstances.
  
  This would help curb some obvious attempts at doing such wild things. But what if there was an accident that makes such things happen? EVen this time Janet contends that it was an accident. But hey, an average american woman said - yea even I used to wear a metal capped sun in my nipple to work everyday but I thought it was just me.
  
  I am just saying it is hard to draw a line between accidents and purposely done stunts.
  
  

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