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Krishna, Krishna (Yes, Karthik Raja!) The Only International level Indian 'Single" so far! But Gone Unnoticed!

Topic started by Karthik Raja - Future King of Pop from India! (@ 63.215.114.177) on Fri Jan 18 21:17:57 EST 2002.
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Krishna, Krishna is a fantastic composition by Karthik Raja for the film Dumm, Dumm, Dumm. In my opinion the only party song that is fantastic and has universal appeal! None of ARR song come close to this level of crossover appeal that KR has achieved by this song. (To some extent we are seeing more internationally enjoyable songs recently - Harris Jayaraj has also probably got one in Gulmohar Malare and in a coupel of Minnale songs, YSR also has one in Nee Illai Eendral, but i am leading u away from the point.) Has anyone thoroughly listened to the Krishna, Krishna song to see that it had the potential to become a sensation as the "Macarena" number? Do you think Krishna, Krishna should've been marketed internationally as a beach party number? I wish, because this song alone could've brought amazing response for more Indian music. In other words, more boost to the neglected superlative of Karthik Raja. One thing you note about the number is the amazing flow of the song, the melody and the unique rhythm (the sound of that percussion is so right!)

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Responses:

• From: Concerned (@ 207.93.133.193) on: Fri Jan 18 21:45:14 EST 2002
  
  Are you ok Dear? I think you need help
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.88) on: Fri Jan 18 21:55:52 EST 2002
  
  ROFL....
  
  
• From: Philosopher (@ 24.190.51.205) on: Fri Jan 18 22:55:15 EST 2002
  
  I'm really surprised. I liked every other song in Dumm3 except Krishna2 - In fact Ragasiyamai is an excellent song. Don't know what appeal you see in Krishna2 song.
  
  
• From: MTV (@ 202.9.167.39) on: Fri Jan 18 23:16:49 EST 2002
  
  Dear 63.215.114.177
  
  Which mental assylum are u in currently?
  Anyway, Get well soon!!
  
  
• From: amused (@ 202.149.210.109) on: Sat Jan 19 00:51:21 EST 2002
  
  Karthik Raja would not have been touched with a twelve foot barge pole if he was not the son of the unquestioned king,Ilaiyaraja.Krishna krishna is a mediocre composition and none of Karthik's comps has that quality of greatness.Work hard,Karthik,get to your roots and come up,baby
  
  
• From: Karthik Raja - You are wasted in India. Audience not there yet! (@ 63.208.69.61) on: Sat Jan 19 02:49:41 EST 2002
  
  that is exactly the responses i was expecting. that is the reason the song went unnoticed. so u folks have a long way to go! don't blame ya.
  
  
• From: KR - Don't Waste Yr Time in India (@ 63.208.69.61) on: Sat Jan 19 02:59:39 EST 2002
  
  Mental TV, not where u are. think out of your frikin box. anyway, what was good about rahasimayi song? it is like any other of the 10000 TFM songs? Krishna, Krishna is new to you all, so it will take time to appreciate it.
  
  
• From: musicfan (@ 172.148.244.33) on: Sat Jan 19 05:46:40 EST 2002
  
  Listened to Krishna Krishna again today. I agree that it is a neat song. Karthikraja is an untapped talent. there is no doubt that his music is misplaced in cinema(hope he learns from his father's mistake). he should seriously work on non-film music even if it means limited audience. atleast he can have the audience that can understand his compositions. he should avoid degrading himself with some of the movies that he took up initially. probably he should wait for the 'moviecrazed' 'musiclovers' to mature a bit before dishing out songs for cinema. meanwhile, if tamil cinema still deserves his talent, lets wait for current 'trashy trend' in tamil cinema to die out (why else is ARR so disillusioned or what else can be the reason for IR's prophetic dejection).
  
  
• From: Mister India (@ 203.199.236.170) on: Sat Jan 19 08:40:04 EST 2002
  
  "In my opinion the only party song that is fantastic and has universal appeal! "
  
  "None of ARR song come close to this level of crossover appeal that KR has achieved by this song"
  
  U do have a nice sense of humour...
  
  
• From: ajlg (@ 151.201.226.105) on: Sat Jan 19 15:09:37 EST 2002
  
  This song is lifted and inspired from
  "She is a lady" by Tom jones.
  
  
• From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21) on: Sat Jan 19 17:29:40 EST 2002
  
  "Krishna, Krishna is new to you all, so it will take time to appreciate it."
  
  this is an argument one normally uses for arr songs...
  there was nothing at all special in this krishna song...in fact like someone else said, it was the only song i didn't really like in dum dum dum...
  but i think as u, 63.215.114.177, are so determined about classifing this song as such a great masterpiece, which noone else will ever understand, then there is no point in argumenting with u about it...
  
  raycas
  
  
• From: Krishna, Krishna! - evalvu chonnalum... (@ 209.244.64.94) on: Sat Jan 19 22:51:11 EST 2002
  
  raycas, i urge u to listen to the song again, with an open mind, this is not arr cut&paste no. be a discerning listener, that is to join the 1% of the music listeners&lovers. if you like IR songs instantly, Krishna, Krishna is another one but for the youth and instantly likeable but too fantastic a work to appreciate totally at an early listening stage. Mediocre listeners can only go that far to know the difference between a pearl and round shiny pellet. patience and open mind my dear friends. Karthik Raja is leading us to the next dimension of indian film music. he may not become a prolific composer, but definitely shows IR genius&class all the way in most of his songs. (Eg: rakkamma,rakkamma; kattana ponnu romantica; hello enthan kadala - has some flaws, desingu raja, and many others.)
  
  
• From: Juan Pablo Montoya (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Sat Jan 19 23:07:31 EST 2002
  
  Of course 63.215.114.177, we do agree. Well, how can we but not? What with all the other countless masterpieces Karthik has churned out, including one more to the hall of fame doesnt hurt. Its stands high up in the brilliant masterpieces list with the irreproachables such alexander, vanchi, ullam kollai poguthey and naam iruvar and other films which the fickle ingrateful tamil people have forgotten over the years. and we do appreciate ur concern and enthusiasm in bringing things to perspective and and I do wish all the best in ur endeavour to educate the 99% musically-illiterate masses about the noble musical qualities of Karthik Raja who in my personal opinion is the beacon of hope for the new millennium. (and we do understand his being the son of Raja has got nothing to do with his status in Tamil films) and whom i believe will much-lacking respect back to the tfm.
  
  
• From: RP (@ 207.220.37.217) on: Sat Jan 19 23:54:11 EST 2002
  
  Well Juan, i dont know if you are being sarcastic here in your comments(you certainly sound like one who thinks KR music is trash). Well i think the Krishna Krishna song though not in the same level of other songs in DDD is certainly a peppy youth oriented party song. I think Karthik Raja has not received the recognition he deserves for his good scores in most of his films. For some strange reason people here go gaga over every YSR song even if its ordinary. Well Karthik Raja is extremly talented and i hope he gets a good break to showcase his talents.Guys pl listen with a open mind and not simply dismiss every song of his.
  
  
• From: grow up!!!! (@ 148.87.1.171) on: Sun Jan 20 00:56:33 EST 2002
  
  A bit of hyperbole there ?!!! Surely, you are joking Mr. Krishna Krishna. Accepted the song is quite decent but I wud somehow think Desingu Raja is definitely a better song. And please stop these comparisons with ARR. These guys need to go miles before even thinking of doing what ARR does in his songs. Anyways, the way you are going gaga over such a simple song, I urge you to listen to 'Kehte hai jisko' from Grahan ( Hindi), all time best composition of KR. His immaturity shows in the charanams somewhat but still, it's one of the top 5 best compositions in Indian film music in 90's. I guess you would then rubbish even IR once you listen to that song :). wud you ??? !!!
  
  
• From: jill (@ 203.197.186.8) on: Sun Jan 20 03:43:22 EST 2002
  
  grow up!!!,
  Don't u think "Yeh sochta" from Grahan excels over "Kehten hain jisko"?I feel THIS is KR's best.
  
  
• From: HAHAHAHAHAHA (@ 202.9.180.151) on: Sun Jan 20 06:08:11 EST 2002
  
  When people in this site try to trash arr and his songs i startedto get the feeling that maybe arr is loosing touch, BUT im sorry when i see such threads from an unbiased guy like this I knoow for sure that arr hasnt lost anything and somepeople for some reason hat ARR despite him bringing tfm upto a natoional level and upto international level after the realese of BD.
  I mean, why else would people write such statements viz >>
  "None of ARR song come close to this level of crossover appeal that KR has achieved by this song. (To some extent we are seeing more internationally enjoyable songs recently - Harris Jayaraj has also probably got one in Gulmohar Malare and in a coupel of Minnale songs, YSR also has one in Nee Illai Eendral, but i am leading u away from the point.) "
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: International Krishna (@ 63.208.64.13) on: Sun Jan 20 18:54:13 EST 2002
  
  hey fellas, y all missin the point, rushin in like some wild bulls. listen, what is the topic? i said international song. ok according to most folks anti in this thread, you all operate on a basic premise or fallacy that indian film songs are far superior than international numbers like macarnea. go ahead. but my topic is KR for the first time brought an appealing number suitable for international audience. all those anti heare and friking pretty articualte point out one indian film song you can play in a party of the upmarket folks or urban listeners as easy and yet brilliant as the Krishna, Krishna song. For a change, go a examine the song in the frikin context i am talkin about.! Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna. (no offense meant to the intellectuals and snobs and novices that include arr fans in this thread. man, i feel quite famished mentally, hey Mental TV ange edum irundha sollu!)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Sun Jan 20 20:44:05 EST 2002
  
  International Krishna,
  U r missing an important point here.
  Before gaining INTERNATIONAL recognition, one needs to work the HOME turf first!!!
  
  
• From: Krishna is International (@ 63.208.64.13) on: Sun Jan 20 20:52:11 EST 2002
  
  Is that in the rule book? whynot sir. what logic is this whynot sir? whynot why not KR go international simultaneously when it happens just like that? why not, whynot? what is this i say?
  
  
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.130.13) on: Sun Jan 20 22:55:20 EST 2002
  
  Ajlg:
  
  I've heard from quite a few ppl that Krishna2 is lifted from a Tom Jones number, just that I couldnt locate the original's title. 'She is a lady' doesnt seem to be the original too, just downloaded and hrd it. Are you sure thats the original?
  
  
• From: Kiran (@ 202.9.67.104) on: Sun Jan 20 23:25:44 EST 2002
  
  KR should render the same compositions in a more dynamic and confident way .If KR can add some hard punch to his tunes which now are a bit insipid n dull (though great) , then commercial and success side of his music can equal AR.But unfortunaltely he has less music stamena compared to AR.So he can be like a guest king of tamil music .
  As for the quality of compostion and the intellectual touch and touch of class is concerned sometimes he is simply overtaking AR.
  But his music definelty can make other MDs respect him .
  
  

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