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WHY IR USED S.P.BALA MORE THAN OTHERS

Topic started by MATHURESHAN (@ 213.59.173.13) on Thu Jun 14 08:16:00 EDT 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

HEY GUYS I HAVE SOME REASONS
=HIS BEST FRIEND
=TO SPOIL TMS MARKET(ONLY BALA CAN DO)
=HE COULD NOT FIND GOOD SINGERS,(NOW THIS IS DIFFERENT)

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Responses:

• From: RC (@ 160.231.1.100) on: Thu Jun 14 11:11:38 EDT 2001
  
  Mathuresan:
  
  SP Bala has excellent song rendering capabilities. Whatever IR wants can be perfectly delivered by SPB. We cannot imagine someone else singing for IR. However there are some exceptions. So let's not give any political angle over there. He sang well or not? I am sure everyone says yes...so let's close this thread.
  
  
• From: fun (@ 210.88.56.56) on: Fri Jun 15 04:41:36 EDT 2001
  
  Any pblem to U yaaar.
  If U have any pls tell.
  
  
• From: deepa (@ 202.9.180.193) on: Sat Jun 16 01:36:26 EDT 2001
  
  mathuresan, sp bala is a versatile genius which irr easily identified. that was the reason why he used him more. also he was the correct successor to tms another genius. the tragedy now is no one is near to spbala and the tamil film music has taken a nose dive.also spbala's voice is not heard much nowadays.i sincerely hope irr will revert back to spbala as his main play singer and start a second innngs with him making hit much more popular than the first innings. in this way irr can also rediscover his magic
  
  
• From: uma (@ 203.199.225.168) on: Sun Jun 17 08:14:51 EDT 2001
  
  spb is a great and unique artiste. irr being a genius found it quickly and extracted all the talents of spb. it is the tamil film music and illayaraja that gave spb the name and fame. his voice is god's gift to indian film music and illayraj exploited it maximum
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 63.21.181.8) on: Sun Jun 17 20:35:22 EDT 2001
  
  Even without IR, SPB would have gained name and fame. Infact, it's the other way around. But for SPB, his expression and versatility, most of IR's songs would not have fared well. SPB's voice suited ALL the actors. IR could not have risked by giving his songs to any other singer and he didn't have to do that because SPB was a natural choice...like "kani irukka yaaravadhu kaayai kavarvaargaLaa?"
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.241) on: Mon Jun 18 01:13:04 EDT 2001
  
  There you're talking with a lot of bias, Karthi! I have been repeatedly posting that IR did wonders without SPB in a no. of movies (all the first 4 of BR's movies didn't feature SPB, not annakkiLi neither bathrakAli...the list is just too long).
  
  SPB had done well without IR and IR too had done well without SPB. No questions about that.
  
  Now, it's true that IR used SPB more which could be due to the following reasons:
  
  a) His voice suited KH, Rajini, Sivakumar and most other heroes (e.g.Mohan, who always used a dubbing artiste like SN Surendar) very nicely.
  b) He would have suited the high-speed composing style of Raja where too many rehearsals simply won't do
  c) SPB's versatility made sure he can do any type of song. This is a very important criteria for film music, especially for the rate at which Raja was scoring
  d) Both were close friends, even before IR made it big
  e) Age factor (Raja would have found it difficult to command TMS, for e.g. while he could easily ask SPB to cut down some of his konashtais)
  
  
• From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201) on: Mon Jun 18 03:32:34 EDT 2001
  
  Was there a misunderstanding between the two, resulting in IR promoting mano?
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.242.140) on: Mon Jun 18 08:02:57 EDT 2001
  
  bb, I don't think so, it could have been simply IR's super ego ("nAn compose paNNinadhai oru kazhudhai pAdinAkkooda hit Ahum")
  
  
• From: GV (@ 64.230.104.130) on: Mon Jun 18 08:44:07 EDT 2001
  
  In their earlier (struggling) days in Chennai, one of the first decent jobs that Ilaiyaraja and Gangai Amaran could get was to perform with SPB's music group. That is when their friendship started. Ilaiyaraja mentioned this in an interview a few years ago.
  
  
• From: Shrini (@ 205.188.200.213) on: Mon Jun 18 08:57:26 EDT 2001
  
  In late 80s IR mentioned in an interview with vikatan that he was not completely satisfied with any of the current singers, including SPB and SJ.
  In his own words'en paadalai nooru sadhavidam velipaduthum thiramaiyaana paadagargal yaarumille'
  
  This was before bhavatharini started singing :-)
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Mon Jun 18 23:45:44 EDT 2001
  
  Eden,
  
  Mano was used primarily because APB was busy in telugu in 87-88 (that time) and also he had a throat operation. And what IR supposedly told with his supposedly super ego, ARR made it happen (making Uditnarayan sing for Rajini which could have been the biggest disgrace for Rajini).
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Mon Jun 18 23:46:35 EDT 2001
  
  Please read APB as SPB
  
  Athi
  
  
• From: Karthi (@ 63.21.181.81) on: Tue Jun 19 00:17:59 EDT 2001
  
  Eden! Those were the days when IR's music had wonderful tunes - and it didn't actually matter who sang his songs - I mean it didn't need an SPB to render his songs beautifully. His melodies were so fresh and enticing that even singers "who didn't make it that big" like Jency, S P Shailaja could give produce hits - I think the credit goes to IR's composition which could bring the best out of everyone that sang his song!
  
  Many of IR's "hits" of 80s IMO fared only because of SPB. What I am coming to say is "SPB paadiyE andha songs-laam andha lakshanathula irukkudhunnaa mathavanga paadi irundhaa eppadi irundhirukkum?"
  
  I am not sure when you will call someone biased. Why should I be simply biased in NOT favoring IR? He was the best MD in the 80's but yet NOT EVEN NEAR HIS OWN BEST!
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.242.231) on: Tue Jun 19 00:54:16 EDT 2001
  
  Karthi,
  I beg to differ. IR kept giving great songs (albeit with less orchestration / arrangements) through out the late 80's, with or without SPB. I believe most SPB songs of this period would have become equally popular if either of KJY or JC sung them too. (In fact this was the time when IR songs featuring even Mano were popular. Of course, this opinion of mine is by no way to undermine the talents of SPB whom I hold in very high esteem. He would have been doing a great a job without IR too. )
  
  As a simple example, I would request you to listen to the songs of manathil uRudhi vENdum -released in 1987- and tell your opinion.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Tue Jun 19 04:59:22 EDT 2001
  
  "Many of IR's "hits" of 80s IMO fared only because of SPB"
  
  Karthi, thats just a sweeping statement..For instance, as late as 88 and 90, IR gave 2 HUGE hits, Anjali and Agni Natchathiram which didnt feature a single song by SPB..(correct me if I am wrong)..also Sindhubairavi was a HUGE hit and feautured KJY exclusively..so I dont think your theory is highly valid..
  
  While definitely SPB added a lot of value to IRs hit compositions (and without his presence perhaps IRs success rate would have taken a hit), you yourself had stated examples of how songs sung by other singers like Jency, MV, Jayachandran, Sasirekha, SPS, Uma Ramanan and many others have become hits... YES, Many of them could have been better sung by SPB, who has been the best playback singer IMO these last 2 decades, but that didnt stop those songs from becoming hits..also SPB could sing only so much in spite of being so prolific a singer..
  
  (In fact I credit IR for creating a music career for MV with the voice that he had..)
  
  "What I am coming to say is "SPB paadiyE andha songs-laam andha lakshanathula irukkudhunnaa mathavanga paadi irundhaa eppadi irundhirukkum?"
  "
  
  can you give me specific examples of some songs which were in poor latchanam IN SPITE of SPB singing it and in spite of being a hit?? also could you explain why there were in that latchanam??
  
  
  (for those who argue the same with SJ and IR, I would give Chitra as an example..if IRs success depended heavily on SJ why introduce Chitra in 1985??)
  
  "Many of IR's "hits" of 80s IMO fared only because of SPB"
  
  So, I would remove the word "only" from your comment to make it a little more valid..:-)))
  
  
• From: alamaram (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Tue Jun 19 09:46:47 EDT 2001
  
  
  ARR made it happen (making Uditnarayan sing for Rajini which could have been the biggest disgrace for Rajini).
  
  arr pops even in here, way to go arr.
  
  on the same logic, much bigger disgrace was making rajini sing for himself. :)
  
  
  
• From: bm (@ 205.188.193.162) on: Tue Jun 19 12:13:27 EDT 2001
  
  Vijay...The Star Wars number in Anjali is by SPB...
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.202) on: Wed Jun 20 01:16:20 EDT 2001
  
  bm, what's the Star wars number in Anjali? Is it `vEgham vEgham pOgum pOgum magic journey'? That's by Usha Uthup.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Wed Jun 20 02:58:03 EDT 2001
  
  Eden...there is also a song "Rathiri Nerathil.. _____vegathil...Star Wars ! Sung in a gruff voice by SPB...very well arranged and orchestrated number....that's what bm meant !
  
  
• From: shaNmugam (@ 63.101.96.1) on: Wed Jun 20 02:58:11 EDT 2001
  
  eden,
  
  The song is 'rAthiri nErathil rAthchasa pEigaLin star wars'.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.235) on: Wed Jun 20 05:49:45 EDT 2001
  
  yeah, I remember the song now...but does it feature SPB? I thought it had kids all the way (like motta mAdi, motta mAdi)
  
  
• From: sachin deshpande (@ 203.197.87.66) on: Wed Jun 20 08:17:56 EDT 2001
  
  
  SB Bala is very close to my heart & I am mad
  about his voice.
  When he sings it is the feelings that strightly
  enter into the Heart & much more that cannot be
  expressed in words....
  
  Thanks for this opportunity ...
  I am collecting his Hindi songs from 1990....
  If you can help me please contact me at:
  sgdeshpande@yahoo.com
  
  Sachin
  
  
• From: Shrini (@ 172.170.146.199) on: Wed Jun 20 09:50:32 EDT 2001
  
  eden that was by SPB. After recording that song his voice was affected and he was not able to sing
  for 2 full months.
  
  
• From: y?? (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Wed Jun 20 13:51:31 EDT 2001
  
  was that so? Shrini .. interesting!! actually, SPB also had sung in such a gruffy voice for "indhrudu chandrudu" for kamal ... must have got affected after that song too ...
  as an aside, kamal's voice got scre wed up after his old man's role in 'saagara sangamam - salangai oli I think in tamil' ... he said, for that coarse voice, he used to shout a lot in some open auditorium .. and it got scre wed forever ...
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Wed Jun 20 14:28:29 EDT 2001
  
  YEs. It is by SPB and another irreproducible number.
  
  
• From: Athi (@ 24.182.219.105) on: Sat Jun 23 00:19:52 EDT 2001
  
  Alamaram,
  
  The mannan song you are referring to is
  a very good song and is very special because
  that is the only song Rajini ever sung.
  
  Udit Narayan singing for Rajini shows
  how much ARR cares about the movie. He
  only wants to make the song catchy in
  some way. And the singers that ARR has introduced,
  including himself have unbearable voices
  (something Eden has mentioned earlier in different context).
  
  Athi
  
  

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