Topic started by Ramki (@ nas01ppp208.apts.wmich.edu) on Thu Mar 5 22:36:44 EST 1998.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
We had a discussion on songs from Sridhar and Bhimsinghs movies.Why dont we do a similar analyis on
Balachanders films too?To ease the discussion I have given a listing of KBs films(it may not be complete,so
please add to the list if anything is missing)
neerkumizhi(VKumar)
edhirneechal(VK)
bama vijayam(MSV)
irukodugal(VK)
vellivizha(MSV)
kannaa nalamaa(MSV)
pathaam pasili(VK)
naanal(MSV)
navagraham(MSV)
kaavyathalaivi(VK)
punnagai(VK)
naan avanillai(MSV)
major chandrakanth(VK)
edhiroli(no songs in this film)
nootrukku nooru(VK)
poova thalaiya(MSV)
arangetram(VK)
aval oru thodarkadhai(MSV)
sollathan ninaikkiren(MSV)
aboorvaraagangal(MSV)
avargal(MSV)
nizhal nijamaagiradhu(MSV)
apoorvaraagangal(MSV)
moondru mudichu(MSV)
thillu mullu(MSV)
varumaiyin niram sivappu(MSV)
manmadha leelai(MSV)
47 naatkal(MSV)
thapputhaalangal(VijayaBhaskar)
noolveli(MSV)
thanneer thanneer(MSV)
achamillai achamillai(VSN)
kalyana agadhigal(VSN)
agni saatchi(MSV)
enga oor kannagi(MSV)
poi kaal kudirai(MSV)
pattina pravesam(MSV)
punnagai mannan(Ilaiyaraja)
unnaal mudiyum thambi(Raja)
sindhu bhairavi(Raja)
manadhil urudhi vendum(raja)
pudhu pudhu arthangal(Raja)
oru veedu iru vaasal(no songs)
jaadhi malli(Maragathamani)
vaanamae ellai(Maragathamani)
azhagan(Maragathamani)
duet(ARR)
kalki(Deva)
Responses:
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg)
on: Thu Mar 5 22:54:51 EST 1998
Ramki:
Some corrections:
Velli Vizhaa - VK
Naanal - VK
Kaaviya Thalaivi -- MSV
Punnagai - MSV
- From: Ramki (@ nas01ppp208.apts.wmich.edu)
on: Thu Mar 5 23:07:05 EST 1998
Sathya keerthi thanks for the corrections but
i think VK was the MD for 'KT' and 'punnagai'
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg)
on: Thu Mar 5 23:10:57 EST 1998
Ramki:
No. I think I am quite sure.
Also you missed Thamarai Nenjam and Anubavi Raaja
Anubavi (both by MSV).
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Thu Mar 5 23:24:56 EST 1998
Ramki - A good topic on one of India's best Directors. I am such a fan of his that I would sit through late nights just to complete watching his movies. :-))
Always thought-provoking, most of the time controversial, his movies seldom fail to leave a mark.
I recently watched Arangetram. Many of the present days stars were in the movie: Sivakumar, SV Subbiah, Jayasudha, Jeyachitra, Senthaamarai, etc. Kamal looks like a real chinna payan! Some of the songs in the movie are:
Aandavanin thoattathiley azhagu sirikithu
Moothaval nee koduththaal
Maappilai ragasiyathei sollavaa?
Aaaramba kaalaththil athu silirkkum
- From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 09:18:05 EST 1998
Ramki:
An interesting topic. KB is one great director. All his movies were a cut above the rest of the movies of his time. He also could picturise the songs well. MSV and IR provided great songs in his movies. Hope to see songs, discussed in this thread, that one can recollect.
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 10:13:10 EST 1998
Ramki, "Kaaviya Thalaivi"'s MD was certainly MSV and I don't know about "Punnaghai"
- From: Ramki (@ 141.218.188.189)
on: Fri Mar 6 10:57:51 EST 1998
Amar thanks for the confirmation.
When it comes to KBs film i think its easy to pick out film that didnt have good songs . For example
I dont remember any good song from 'punnaghai'.
Punnaghai is one of the best product from KB with
damn good performance by Sambhar aka Gemini.
But the song sequences werent that good esp the sung by Jayanthi(SJ is the singer)when she is being raped...very funny. But as far as i remember there arent any duets in this film.
Another film with 'not very good songs'is 'poikaal kudhirai'.'poikkal kudhirai'is film version
of crazy Mohans 'marriages are made in saloon'.
Except for mind blowing performance by vaali there
was nothing awesome in this film.
Apart from these 2 films all other had atleast one good song.
Usually the songs in KBs film had strong lyrics bcoz of the intense situations.He uses songs
to solve certain riddles in his 'thiraikadhai'
examples
kamal confesses his love for Srividya in 'adhisaya raagam '
'ippidi oru thalattu paadava'-sujatha describes her entire life to her ex through this song
'punnagai mannan 'where both the spouses of Gemini
expresses their rite over him
'mounathil vilaiyadum manasatchiye'-one of the best song in KBs film depicts the manaporattam
of all the 3 characters in 'noolveli'
'sippi irukkudhu muthu irukkudhu'both sridevi and kamal express their feelings for each other
and so on...
So he never wasted a song over unwanted situations
- From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 11:44:32 EST 1998
Ramki:
What are the songs in Naan Avan illai ? I remember a song where Jayabharati and ? sing a song in boat.
- From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 11:48:04 EST 1998
Should read " singing a song sitting in a boat"
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 11:51:15 EST 1998
Raja:
One great song from "Naan Avanillai" is "Manthaara Malarey, Manthaara Malarey, Neeraadhi Kalickennu" by JC(?) & VJ(?)
- From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Mar 6 11:54:44 EST 1998
Amar Manthaaray malarey is by JC and LRE
ARe there any more popular songs from this film??
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tl04.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 12:03:47 EST 1998
Amar:
I like mandhAra malarE too--thanks for reminding it. One more from nAn avanillai.....
rAdha kAdhal varAdhA
navaneedhan leelai bOdhai tharAdhA
rAsaleelai thodarAdhA
- From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 12:04:56 EST 1998
Ramki & Amar:
The movie Naan Avan illai was great. I heard this was a copy of some other movie, any news?
- From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Mar 6 12:07:10 EST 1998
One more observation. KBs films generally had less no of songs:
Iru kodugal : 3
neerkumizhi : 2
Major chandrakanth: 2
naan avanillai : 2??
Punnaghai: 2?
patham pasili: 2
kanna nalama : 2
Bama vijayam: 3
poova thalaiva: 3 (poda sonnaal pottukkuren song has 3 versions)
nootrukku nooru: 3
Kaavyathalaivi : 4
Nizhal nijamaagiradhu : 2
aboorva raagangal : 4
avargal : 4 + short piece by SJ
arangetram : 3
Thaamarai nenjam : 3?
achamillai achamillai: 3
Manmadha leelai : 3
47 naatkal : 3
Films that had more than 5 songs are:
SB: 7
Unnal mudiyum thambi : 6
Manadhil urudhi vendum: 6
Ninaithalae inikkum : 8
- From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Mar 6 12:10:08 EST 1998
correction: Major chandrakanth had 3 songs
- From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Mar 6 12:15:46 EST 1998
Raja Im not sure abt the origin of naan avanillai but i think this is the only film that was produced by Gemini.
- From: MSK (@ dhcp-877019741.qualcomm.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 13:04:22 EST 1998
After Puthu puthu arthangal , The list shows not only the fall in music in his films, But himself.
I guess PPA was his last hit !!. ??
- From: raja m (@ draco.eisi.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 13:15:07 EST 1998
Ramki:
Aval oru thodarkadhai had many songs:
Kadavul amaithu vaitha medai
Aadumadi thotil 5 thingal ponal
ennadi ulagam idhil ethanai
KJY ? I missed a few.. What are the songs from Bhama Vijayam?
- From: Ramki (@ cs517.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Mar 6 13:24:16 EST 1998
MSK IMo the standard of his songs never went down.
Maragadhamani was at his best in Vaanamae ellai and Azhagan.
Duet is the best album(in my opinion)of ARR.
'en kaadhalae ','mettu podu','anjali anjali'are real gems.
RAja: other songs in AOT are
'kannille enne undu'-SJ
Deivam thandha veedu -KJY
Bhamavijayam songs:
'aani muthu vangi vandhen aavani veedhiyile'-Soolamangalam,PS,LRE
'varavu ettanna'-TMS,ALR,PS,LRE
There is one more duet for Nagesh and Rajshree. I am not able to recall this song
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-tc01.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Mar 6 13:27:27 EST 1998
Raja:
Some more avaL oru thodarkadhai songs.......
dheivam thandha veedu veedhiyirukku (KJJ)
kaNNilE enna uNdu kaNgaLthAn aRiyum (SJ)
Some Bhama Vijayam Songs....
ANi muththu vAngi vandhEn AvaNi veedhiyilE
varavu ettaNA
kuLukuLu(?) nadaiyenna jilujilu(?) udai ennavO
ninaiththAl sirippu varum
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