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ARR's interview in Hindu .....-Intresting Point

Topic started by MumbaiRamki (@ 63.186.8.168) on Sun Dec 12 18:45:07 EST 2004.
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http://www.hindu.com/mp/2004/12/13/stories/2004121300340100.htm

1.The 'Yuhi chaala ' song from swades was orginally composed for Lagaan .

2.Harris Jeyaraj worked with him only for 2 films !!

3.On today's music -
"What is today's Tamil film music all about? They are nothing more than fast numbers or remix downloaded. What took me weeks to make music for a "Gentleman" or "Rangeela" can be done today if you have a computer, software and then pre-set the rhythms and you have a disco number! Fast music is no big deal today as anyone can become a music director"

4.Rajiv Menon film in tamizh .

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• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 13:40:38 EST 2004
  
  Dude:
  
  As I said, if you're not interested in the discussion you should bail out, it's your right.
  
  I'll opt out as soon as I find that no one is willing to engage with me. Until such time expect to see more of me.
  
  
• From: Dude (@ 199.2.219.67) on: Mon Dec 13 13:50:43 EST 2004
  
  Buddy, it was your statement "Clearly I'll have to look elsewhere to discuss my ideas." that I quoted.
  
  You know it is really bugging when people are discussing and you make such statements...
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 13:52:12 EST 2004
  
  "I accept 7grc is a musical hit but never found anywhere that it walloped New!
  Care to give us links? "
  
  Jacky, I guess it feels good to go all legal on me and demand official affidavits and what not? The fact is that even if you're the PM of India you'll be unable to get 100% solid documentary proof of these figures.
  
  On the plus side, the year is ending and we might get some lists for top-selling audios, let's defer official proof until then. Meanwhile I based my judgment on the number of weeks at the top of the music charts online. At raaga and cinesouth I barely saw New occupy the no.1 position for 2-3 weeks, whereas 7GRC was on the top for atleast 5-6 weeks.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 13:54:32 EST 2004
  
  "Buddy, it was your statement "Clearly I'll have to..."
  
  Sorry if I sounded clipped, I was trying to expand on my own statement about leaving. In its original context it might not have been clear that I was intending to leave when no one shows willingness to pursue the discussion, not right away.
  
  
• From: Dude (@ 199.2.219.67) on: Mon Dec 13 13:56:24 EST 2004
  
  So, how does it feel when someone quotes you out of context ;-)
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Mon Dec 13 14:04:06 EST 2004
  
  "I didn't say it was his poorest album, though it's by no means my favorite, I was saying it was the poorest-SELLING album for a star of SRK's magnitude. Proof: http://www.boxofficeindia.com/
  "
  
  well, thanks for the link, you made it easy for me :-) thats because the list was formulated on Nov 22nd and Dec 1st. If you see the sector-by-sector information on the right of the table you would see Swades is leading in two sectors(South and West) and is the fourth in another sector.In fact, its in top 5 in ALL 4 sectors. Some of the albums on that top 10 list are from sector-sales computed from earlier this year and they dont even figure in the sector-by-sector report. When they update the list next Swades would be in the top 10 soundtracks. This list is primarily about hits and misses of 2004 and Swades is a late year release which has just made its mark.
  And the sales would probably only pick up if the movie does well.
  As for it being the poorest selling SRK album, I havent read anything to that effect either.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:15:42 EST 2004
  
  "If you see the sector-by-sector information on the right of the table you would see Swades is leading in two sectors(South and West) and is the fourth in another sector.In fact, its in top 5 in ALL 4 sectors."
  
  I knew you'd say that, which is why I urged you to read further down the report. The sectors that the album leads in contribute little more than 5% each to the overall market, so selling there well means little in terms of overall sales.
  
  "This list is primarily about hits and misses of 2004 and Swades is a late year release which has just made its mark."
  
  This one doesn't wash. The list also contains VZ, Musafir etc, which were released at about the same time as Swades if not later.
  
  Reg. it being SRK's poorest-selling album I'm basing this on sales of VZ, Main Hoon Na, KHNH etc.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:19:01 EST 2004
  
  "So, how does it feel when someone quotes you out of context ;-)"
  
  I don't know whether you're keeping up with all that's going on here, but I expressed my doubts about the transcript in the very beginning myself before everyone else. However, fortunately or unfortunately, I have also seen the Sun interview, and there I saw and heard for myself Rahman say much the same thing.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:24:34 EST 2004
  
  Alright, I see that it's down to me and Vijay now, I don't see much interest here. As soon as Vijay drops out I'm leaving. On to the next topic!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Mon Dec 13 14:25:29 EST 2004
  
  West forms 30% of the market where Swades leads. Anyways Swades is in top 5 in ALL 4 sectors. Some of the soundtracks in top 10 dont figure in the top 5 of ANY sector. So either they have messed up the figures somewhere or the top 10 list hasnt been updated with the top 5 sector list yet. Also, the movie hasnt even been released unlike the other top soundtracks on the list(like Veer Zara). So the picture isnt complete yet. The album has made a significant first impact to say the LEAST.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Mon Dec 13 14:28:00 EST 2004
  
  and this in spite of the fact that the music was composed strictly to suit the film and its not a typical "commercial" album by Rahman's own admission and by critical reviews.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:29:40 EST 2004
  
  Point taken on the West sector.
  
  The top 10 is for the whole year, the top 5 is for current chart-tracking. Some of the top 5, VZ and Musafir, made it to the year's top 10 even before they were released, Swades hasn't.
  
  I still say that for a Rahman-SRK release this performance is underwhelming.
  
  
• From: vambu (@ 136.1.1.33) on: Mon Dec 13 14:33:34 EST 2004
  
  observer, ippa innangareenga?
  
  -ARR apdi pesakkodadhunreengalaa? avarukkum pechu sudhandhiram irukkungo sir.
  
  -chari pesikkattum, appo avarum arrogant aayittaarunnu udane solluveengo. ada amam, avar romba humble'nnu neenga idhu varaikkum nambinaal adhukku naanga inna pannaradhu? sollapponaal ego illadha manushanga ethana peru sollungo sir? adhilum panam, pugazh ullavangalla ethana perukku adhu illai (illaingara madhiri konja nalaikku nadikkuvanga enbadhu vera vishayam)
  
  -ada avarum mix than panninaru, mathavangala epdi sollalam'ngareengalaa? nan mattum than pirasavichu eduthen, mathavanga mix panrangannu avar sollaliye?
  
  I think you're wasting your time and energy to dissect the statements of a celebrity which can be spent usefully otherwise:-)
  
  
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Mon Dec 13 14:34:04 EST 2004
  
  when the breadth that you are trying to cover is large, i.e. national or even international audiences the depth of impact in certain local pockets might not be high. This is what is happeneing to Rahman. Whe he is still up in the charts in HFM and scoring music for the likes of LOTR, people are writing him off in TFM. Its not as if he was passed over by Mani or Shankar for soem other MD. He is still their first choice. Its his own prioritizing that is keeping him where he is. For someone who was a big part of the country's collective aspiration for an Oscar less than 3 years back(and still fresh in memory) its pretty premature to say that he needs to "bounce back". Notice there are no clear leaders or trend setters in HFM apart from Rahman in the last few years. Its beena revolving door. Amusing that still Madan Mohan's songs are considered better than most HFM composers melodies :-)
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:34:21 EST 2004
  
  "and this in spite of the fact that the music was composed strictly to suit the film and its not a typical "commercial" album by Rahman's own admission and by critical reviews."
  
  Point taken again. Indeed I said something similar when some posts ago I said that some of his scores haven't done well due to poor/arty flicks. Swades is certainly one of this category so far, its promos have an arty flavor that's likely to keep the audience away in droves.
  
  Certainly it'd be interesting to see how the movie does and how that'll affect the score's fortunes.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Mon Dec 13 14:40:27 EST 2004
  
  "Notice there are no clear leaders or trend setters in HFM apart from Rahman in the last few years. Its beena revolving doo"
  
  Same is the case in TFM as well. Even IR's Pithamagan and Virumandi has their share of chart toppers and his music was talked about for a brief while until the next chart-topper came along. Its more of a level field now. But the market leader is one who still bags prestigious projects, is in the good books of prestigious directors and commands the highest salary/movie. Rahman is still at the top in all these 3 years. The present crop of young MDs in TFM are enjoying fleeting successes while the trend setter is moving on to bigger things.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:40:48 EST 2004
  
  "Whe he is still up in the charts in HFM and scoring music for the likes of LOTR"
  
  I'm afraid this too is turning into an embarrassment with the producers of the musicals having drafted two composers to help out. Whatever be the reasons for this, it looks bad for Rahman.
  
  "Its not as if he was passed over by Mani or Shankar for soem other MD. He is still their first choice."
  
  Vijay, you lay far too much trust in these figures. There are no guarantees in real life, or in films. What is the use if Mani, Shankar sign him on if the movies flop, his efforts go to waste and upstarts like YSR and HJ walk off with the glory?
  
  Reg. your assertion that no major trend has emerged since Rahman, I've a number of ideas for discussion on this that I'll get to soon. Let me collect my thoughts.
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:44:00 EST 2004
  
  "I'm afraid this too is turning into an embarrassment with the producers of the musicals having drafted two composers to help out"
  
  Sorry, looks like I was suffering from a sudden attack of dyslexia there. Read as:
  
  "I'm afraid this too is turning into an embarrassment with the producers of the musical having drafted two new composers to help out"
  
  
  
  
• From: observer (@ 208.254.219.2) on: Mon Dec 13 14:45:48 EST 2004
  
  "Its more of a level field now."
  
  Well, Vijay, it appears we're converging now, so the horizon of the meeting point is not far. I said the same thing a few posts ago.
  
  

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