Topic started by xml (@ 128.148.68.110) on Sat Dec 20 15:11:34 EST 2003.
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Hi all
Everyone know about ARR's entry,his albums,his achievements etc..
But I want to reveal the past and the truth with ARR.After the success of roja there were many interviews with ARR.Initially he told he never listern to TFM but always hollywood music.When they asked about his ambition he answered,he want to make TFM like hollywood.But he made continous craps parasuram,alliarjuna,thenali,star,paravasam,KV,udaya,baba etc..Are they similar to hollywood music.
After getting badmashree award he told he won't move out of chennai.All technology we have in chennai.If the world want his music let them come to chennai and get from him.But he refused for shankar's next movie and ran away from TFM since chinese movie is more important for him.
Is he afraid of HJ&YSR or just a chameleon?.
Responses:
- From: Piratheepan (@ 68.89.45.96)
on: Sat Dec 20 15:35:42 EST 2003
I think you are over analyzing. In ur list Parasuram was the only bad album.
Are u saying he hasnt brough TFM a long way.Hmm odd he is the one being asked to make movies outside of india so yes he is capable of giving great music.The early interviews... he has broughten TFM to Hollywood standards.(along with IR) as for moving out ppl have different goals later on to,plus he said he wanted to take indian music to the world which is wat hes doing.
He isnt afraid of HJ and YSR those 2 r the least of his worries.
- From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110)
on: Sat Dec 20 16:17:23 EST 2003
But, why did those albums and now he is moving out of TFM. Due to his misherable flops he lost hope with TFM and trying others .Rite.
- From: Piratheepan (@ 68.89.179.164)
on: Sat Dec 20 19:47:56 EST 2003
ummm no like i said only one in ur list that was bad was parasuram. the rest were great.Who said he left did u not here BOYS,E20U18,KKS and others r still on the way.
he is trying to get the world to recognize that indian music is more then just the sitar,tablas, and other classical instruments.
- From: magix (@ 219.65.109.32)
on: Sat Dec 20 21:03:09 EST 2003
xml,
There's a limit to being blatantly critical of ARR and his works..
ARR is the person who's actually brought Indian music (mind u.. when i say music, i dont mean single pieces of instruments.. i mean composition in general) to light. He made foreigners take notice of the fact that Indian music does not mean a few ppl sitting on the ground playing the Sitar! (Webber's words!)
He is the ONLY MD who has successfully bridged the gap between TFM and HFM. No other musician has been able to get out of his groove to adapt to other cultures..
If ARR hasnt been able to bring IFM to Hollywood standards, how do u think he got all those offers from abroad?!
Yup.. U were right that technology is available in Chennai.. in fact Panchathan Inn is said to be the BEST studio in Asia. But remember he wanted a full fledged orchestra for WOHE.
About Shankar's project, at least ARR was decent enough to accept he had no dates to give him. He was totally consumed by all the projects on hand.. He could have accepted Shankar's project if he'd wanted, taken his time. But he knew he shouldnt hamper the flow of work of his friend. And that was very decent of him..
And I dont know why u create an unnecesssary fuss about composing abroad.. I've known MDs who've composed in Hungary and made empty(?) promises about albums.
phew! It's been quite a while since i posted such a huge one.. but I jus cudnt resist this one..
When did ARR get his Badmashree award? :)
- From: * (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Sun Dec 21 08:39:03 EST 2003
xml, ungalkku evlo thaan ARR mela veruppu irundhaalum avara 'Badmaash'-nu solradhu romba thappu!!
- From: magix (@ 219.65.109.196)
on: Sun Dec 21 08:49:32 EST 2003
*..
vendaam! let's not start talkin in other languages even by accident!! :)
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.16)
on: Sun Dec 21 08:54:01 EST 2003
come on guys...xml has tried something new...he has done away with the links in his post! ... avaroda mana theiriyatha paaratti avarukku oru soappu dabba koduppom...
...santhoshama vaangikka annaen! :-)
- From: xmldasan (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:05:37 EST 2003
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- From: MusicIsLife (@ 67.85.193.232)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:08:05 EST 2003
xml..
As per Advaitha, Bagavatham and et all.. we should take life as it comes.. so probably ARR did that exact same thing.. Words and interpretation are only for the person who listens to them and makes a mountain out of a mole.. ARR is an excellent musician and he has gained some gr8 heights, call it hype, call it publicity, call it watv.. but he has done it that is indisputable..
So it does not matter, i am happy for an Tamilian to achieve that gr8 heights..
In movie industry, you dont need to keep promises!! (which is what the listener interpreted)..
btw: I dont believe ARR personally said all those you have mentioned, coz Newspapers can do watv their want... it is a twisted tale. You should not take each and everything to be a promise!! and a thing to be fulfilled..
One question would you be bothered IF VS/DEVA did not keep up their promises/words.
- From: Gregor Johann Mendel (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:09:52 EST 2003
BTW, 8..0 seems to be the 'dominant gene' in xml's multi-avatarred IPs :)
xml (@ 128.148.68.110)
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- From: gunshot-ganapathy (@ 203.164.96.163)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:14:51 EST 2003
the list is correct.. antha list'la u can add kanathil mutham ital also..
well he is not taking the tfm into hf.. insted he is only bringing hf musick into tfm.
xml... begining la sonathelam ipa gnabaka vachu ipadi esaku musakana kelvi elam keka koodathu.. begining la sonatha begining'laye maranthidanum. neenga atha elam gnabaka paduthina ARR varutha paduvar... ipa see ARR fans already varutha paduranga.
- From: RangapartRaghupathy (@ 61.95.159.16)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:19:33 EST 2003
Prabhu,
iruvarum oruvarey??!
ada ennapa ithu....
"But he refused for shankar's next movie and ran away from TFM since chinese movie is more important for him."
ithu maathiri seyllaena u guys wud go about saying commitment keep up pannaley to that Hollywood guy ... eppadi irunthaalum ethaavathu sollittu thaan iruppenga ... dinesh senjathu thappey illai! ;-) ... jus kidding!
- From: Stroustroup Sabapathy (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:25:36 EST 2003
C~P, rite!
Boys and KKS having great run, so all's well now!
- From: RaghupathysonofGajapathysonofValayapathy! (@ 61.95.159.16)
on: Sun Dec 21 09:39:40 EST 2003
eppadi patni eppadi?...eppadi neenga mattum ithellam thuppu thulakking? ... neenga TamiLnadu police-a join pannunga patni....appuram Vijaykanth will take a movie Patni IPS and u will be honoured! :-)
- From: Police Apathy! (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Sun Dec 21 11:08:34 EST 2003
RP s/o GP s/o VP:
C~P, no need for IP, writing style gives the surety.
I'd rather be a Beagle Boy than be an Inspector Bhai!
- From: Military Sympathy! (@ 61.95.159.16)
on: Sun Dec 21 12:17:55 EST 2003
You have just refused a chance to be Vijaykanth's Bhai! ... Captain unga left leg-aala soLti soLti adipparu! :-) .. POTA sattathula ulla poataalum aacharya padarthukku illai!
- From: Raju, Venkatapathy (@ 161.114.64.74)
on: Sun Dec 21 12:30:29 EST 2003
Adhellaam nadakaadhu, avaroda Mike Gatting stomach-la full toss pottutu odeeruven! :)
---"Is he afraid of HJ&YSR?"
Idhukku mela joke adikka mudiyaadhu :)
- From: Julie Ganapathy! (@ 202.9.180.2)
on: Sun Dec 21 13:21:39 EST 2003
inna ippadi telling Captain paththi ... Kashmir lerunthu Kanyakumari varaikum avar pudikkatha theeviravaathigaley kidayaathu!! ... Veerappan-a pudikka Devaram, Thiruvaasagam ellam vaendaam...namma Captain-a anuppalam! ... dialogue pesiye kaattai vittu thorathiduvaaru!! :-)
Osama Bin Laden-a pudikka koodiya orey aalu! ... Bush was actually considering to hire Captain to capture Saddam .... y else do u think Saddam Hussain hid himself in a small tunnel! ;-)
- From: xml (@ 128.148.68.110)
on: Sun Dec 21 14:48:56 EST 2003
Hi all,
Whatever album ARR made after alaipayuthe starting from thenali all are craps till boys.The recent albums boys,KKS are below to any of HJ& YSR's album.
He had offered international projects even in those days.But still he was showing interest with TFM.
But do you know why he is not ready to do with TFM now?.
He himself realized he can not compete with HJ and YSR.Because none of his albums can be to the calibre of HJ and YSR after alaipayuthe.
And for you people information.ARR got padmashree award in 2000 after taal.OK.
- From: raj (@ 203.164.79.52)
on: Tue Dec 23 01:49:26 EST 2003
xml.. i agree with you untill i hear kovil. now kovil is the all time crap of hj. u18i20, kks even udaya far better than kovil. yea not harris fault.. chimpanzi ku(jimbu) music adika sonna avar ena seivaru.. pavam! korangu'ku korangu music thaney adika mudiyum..
- From: magix (@ 61.2.224.107)
on: Tue Dec 23 03:01:17 EST 2003
xml..
Of course I know Rahman got the Padmashree award!
How come whenever u complain about Rahman, u carefully tread around universally successful albums and happily list away albums that did not seem to please to u! (none of them do.. but i know u like to be politically correct!) :)
There's this album called Boys...
And if u cant argue w/ Boys' success.. u cant argue w/ E20U18 either... It surpassed Boys in cassette sales..
If Rahman slowed down after AP, that's coz he concentrated on mature albums giving quite a many haunting melodies. With Boys.. he came back to his unbeatable teenybopper style of music and proved he was the Best at it after all.. what w/ YSR and HJ trying their best to establish themselves in that category by trying to compose "classy" songs and ended up making it sound as though the person's got an awfully misplacd accent!
YSR is at his best composing songs like "Manjakaatu Mynah".. That was brilliant actually.
HJ seriously needs to break away from trying to sound like ARR and has to create a style of his own.. The maximum he has achieved so far is to make all his songs sound like Christmas Carols!
VS is classy, SEL are ultra cool, YSR's got huge potential.. but the bottomline, ARR is here to stay... Wish all u want, Rahman's not quitting. Tough chance!
When Rahman was given foreign offers earlier, he had too many projects in hand to accept 'em...
He's eased down now, Finished all his commitments and is very much anticipating his foreign endeavours.. Once he's completed that, he's gonna come back refreshed having completed a very creative, experimental and (hopefully) successful session.
- From: Nattamai (@ 64.246.11.20)
on: Tue Dec 23 10:02:09 EST 2003
magix:
There's this album called Boys...
Solli theringikkkara nelamaile irukuthu..hehehe
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