Topic started by Bhaskar (@ spider-wa062.proxy.aol.com) on Fri Jun 19 01:52:00 EDT 1998.
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Friends,
Shall we discuss about some all time
great Lyrics in TFM by any Lyricist independent
of which Era in TFM!
Lyrics should be peculiar in writing, peculiar
in meaning, different in thinking, it has to be
different from the usual ones. It has to be
Unique in its approach/writing!
I shall give a few examples of some Lyrics
which I feel is very different and unique in its
style of writing, meaning and thinking!
Thanks
Bhaskar
Responses:
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-wa062.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 02:05:47 EDT 1998
Song 1:
Movie : Paarthaal Pasi Theerum
Lyric : Kannadhaasan
Music : MSV/TKR
Kodi asaindhadhum kAttru vandhadha ?
Kaattru vandhadhum kOdi asaindhadha ?
Nilavu vandhadhum malar malarndhadha ?
Malar malardhadhaal nilavu vandhadha ?
Kodi asaindhadhum kAttru vandhadha ?
Kaattru vandhadhum kOdi asaindhadha ?
Paadal vandhadhum thaalam vandhadha ?
Thaalam vandhadhum paadal vandhadha ?
Bhaavam vandhadhum raagam vandhadha ?
Raagam vandhadum bhaavam vandhadha ?
Kan thirandhadhum kaatchi vandhadha ?
Kaatchi vandhadhum kaN thirandhadha ?
Paruvam vandhadhum aasai vandhadhaa ?
Aasai vandhadhum paruvam vandhadhaa ?
Kodi asaindhadhum kAttru vandhadha ?
Kaattru vandhadhum kodi asaindhadha ?
Vaarthai vandhadhum vaai thirandhadha ?
Vaai thirandhadhum vaarthai vandhadha ?
PeNmai enbadhaal naanam vandhadha ?
Naanam vandhadhaal peNmai aanadhaa ?
Odi vandhadhum thaedi vandhadhum ?
Paadi vandhadhum paarkka vandhadhum ?
Kaadhal enbadha paasam enbadhaa ?
Karunai enbadhaa urimai enbadhaa ?
Kodi asaindhadhum kAttru vandhadha ?
Kaattru vandhadhum kodi asaindhadha ?
Indha paadal is so special that eppadi
paarthaalum it is meaningful.
There are two songs in Moondru Mudichu
in which lines end with a word and the next line
starts with the last word in the previous line,
I forgot the songs as of now, I shall post later
when I find them in my collection.
More Later . . . .
- From: Sathiya Keerthi (@ synergy.nus.edu.sg)
on: Fri Jun 19 04:29:04 EDT 1998
Bhaskar:
Unique lyrics endru sollitteenga. Sari
oNNu kodukkiREn. ip paadalai ezhudhiyadhu
aruNagirinaadhar. avar peyar koNda padaththilEyE
ubayOgap paduththappattadhu ip paadal. idhaRkku
azhagaaga isai amaiththadhu GR endra genius;
kashtamaana ip paadalai pisiRillaamal azhagaaga
paadiyadhu TMS. siRu vayadhilirundhE enakku
ip paadal varigaLin arththangaL therindhu koLLa
aasai; yaaraavadhu sollunga please...
aruLarasan, Kanchana, Pagalavan, ...
paadalai Murasu-Anjal-il type paNNugiREn..
(If there are many who want a transiteration, I
will type that and post it again.)
The realaudio of this song is in Ramaswamy G's page.
ô ϵ
ô ش Ϻ ב
Ù 퐢 ϱ
ÿ љ
陎 ϗ
ת ב
׳ ϵ
ב ͽ
Ѵ ״
̿ ͙ ͍ ב
ó
ګ
ת Ǫ Ҏ
ב
- From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217)
on: Fri Jun 19 15:22:29 EDT 1998
Here is a gem:
mayakkam enathu thAyagam
mounam enathu thAimozhi
kaLakkam enathu kAviyam
nAn kaNeer vaRaindha Oviyam
(mayakkam)
pagalil thOndrum nilavu
kaN pArvaikku maRaindha azhagu
pagalil thOndrum nilavu
kan pArvaikku maRaindha azhagu
thirai mOdiya silai nAn
thunbach chiRayil malarndha malar nAn
(mayakkam)
NaNae enakkup pagaYaNaen
en nAdakathil Nan thunaYaNaen
ThAeNae unakkup puriYadhu
andha dheivam vaRamal viLanGathu
vidhiyum madhiyum Vaeramma
athan viLakkam NanTHAn Paramma
vidhiyum madhiyum Vaeramma
athan viLakkam NanTHAn Paramma
madhiyil vandhavaL NEyamma
en manam maRaiTHAL vidhiyamma
(mayakkam)
- From: Ramki (@ dante.cs.wmich.edu) on: Fri Jun 19 16:08:42 EDT 1998
Udhaya the last line should be 'en vazhi maraithal vidhiyamma':))
Marupadiyum Bhaskar:))
Bhaskar i will say 'maalai pozhudhin mayakkathile'is a very very unique song. It describes the feelings and dreams of a girl who gets married at the age of 5 or 6(baalyavivaham)and loses her husband the very next day. Shes forced to take up on the 'vidhavaikolam'
Maalai pozhudhin mayakkathile naan kanavu kanden thozhi
manadhil irundhum varthaigalilli kaaranam aen thozhi
(kaalyanamae oru kanavu pol vandhu maraindhadhu,indha kalyanathai eppidi varnippadhu)
inbam sila naal thunbam sila naal enbadhu yaaru thozhi
inbam kanavil thunbam edhiril kaanbadhu aen thozhi
manamudithavar pol aruginile or vadivam kanden thozhi
mangai en kaiyil kungumam thandhaar maaliyittar thozhi
vazhi marandhenno vandhavar nenjil saindhu vitten thozhi
avar maraven maraven endraar udanae marandhuvittar thozhi
parandhu vittaar thozhi
kanavil vandhavar yaarendru ketten kanavarendraar thozhi
kanaverendraal avar kanavu mudindhadhum pirindhadhu aen thozhi
(indha varigalil ulla sogathai varnikka varthaigalaedhu)
ilamaiyellam verum kanavu mayam idhil maraindhadhu sila kaalam
thelivum ariyaadhu mudivum theriyaadhu mayangudhu edhirkaalam
Maalai pozhudhin mayakkathile...
- From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com) on: Fri Jun 19 16:15:24 EDT 1998
Keerthi Sir, Udhaya and Ramki:
Thanks for your contributions . . .
I will have to back later in the night ...
- From: Ramki (@ dante.cs.wmich.edu) on: Fri Jun 19 16:08:42 EDT 1998
- From: Bhaskar (@ freeway.proxy.lucent.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 16:15:38 EDT 1998
Keerthi Sir, Udhaya and Ramki:
Thanks for your contributions . . .
I will have to be back later in the night ...
- From: Kanchana (@ spider-wa051.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 17:19:41 EDT 1998
Some quick comments...
Bhaskar:
Good to see you back in DF after your break. Hope we can make this into a good lyrics-based fun discussion as our team used to have several eons back, besides just keying in the lyrics.
BTW, in kodi asaindhadhum, the last four lines, which happen to be my favorites, do need to go together without a break, and should be read as follows:
Odi vandhadhum, thEdi vandhadhum,
pAdi vandhadhum, pArkka vandhadhum,
kAdhal enbadhA? pAsam enbadhA?
karuNai enbadhA? urimai enbadhA?
The andhAdhi songs from moondru mudichchu (again, my favorite JC/SJ songs) are Adi veLLi thEdi unnai nAn adaindha nEram and vasantha kAla nadhiyinilE vairamaNi neeralaigaL.
Keerthi:
Don't have murasu anjal installed yet in my new system, but I'm guessing the aruNagirinAdhar song you've mentioned is muththaiththaru paththith thirunagai. I don't know the full meaning to that verse.
Udhaya:
Which movie is that tragic song from?
Ramki:
I saw the movie Bhagyalakshmi a few months back, just because I was curious re mAlaippozhudhin and kANa vandha kAtchi enna veLLi nilavE.
You will be very disappointed to know that the picturization of mAlaip pozhudhin mayakkaththilE shows a smiling actress lip-synch'ing, in stark contrast to that exquisitely poignant song with such rich lines and soulful music. I saw the movie Bhagyalakshmi just because I was curious re mAlaippozhudhin and kANa vandha kAtchi enna veLLi nilavE.
- From: Ramki (@ dante.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Jun 19 17:34:11 EDT 1998
Thanks for the info kanchana!I will definitely avoid bhagyalakshmi in future(only the film ok:))
Btw 'mayakkam enadhu thaayagam'is from kungumam
Moondru mudichu songs are by VJ and not SJ:)(Nakkeeran endru thittadheergal:)
- From: Kanchana (@ spider-wa051.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 17:55:13 EDT 1998
Ramki, neenga sariyAna nakkeeran! :-)
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-tb034.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 17:58:00 EDT 1998
Thambi Nakkeera :-)):
I do not have the songs of Moondru Mudichu.
If you can recollect the lyrics could you please
post it here.
Ramki, andha songs Lyrics padichaen romba romba-a
touching-aa irukku, but andha ponnu endha vayasula
indha patta paaduraa ? avalukku eppadi chinna
vayasula aana kalyanam therindhadhu, eppadi
chinna vayasula kalyanam aanadhai vaithu kanavar
endru mudivu seigiraaal ? Romba confusion-ppa!
One line which says
Kanavil vandhavar Kanavar excellent usage
of words!
I feel that this song seems to be a Love Sick Song!
Andha ponnu yaarO oruthara kanavula
kaadhalanai kanavar endru thappa yedai pottukuttu
irukkaa ???
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-tb034.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 18:10:06 EDT 1998
Kanchana:
Thanks for your comments and your recollection
of the Moondru Mudichu songs!
Sure! We can make this a good fun discussion
of all peculiar/unique lyrics with your help!
All:
I remember Arul once giving explanation for this
as NNI (I forgot the expansion)..... Niral
something something ...... :-))))
This paragraph as such doesn't have any meaning
but has been constructed in a convuluted manner!
Odi vandhadhum, thEdi vandhadhum,
pAdi vandhadhum, pArkka vandhadhum,
kAdhal enbadhA? pAsam enbadhA?
karuNai enbadhA? urimai enbadhA?
Here goes the actual meaning ...
This actually means as it reads here ....
Odi vandhadhu, kAdhal enbadhA ?
thEdi vandhadhu, pAsam enbadhA ?
pAdi vandhadhu, karuNai enbadhA ?
pArkka vandhadhu, urimai enbadhA ?
I Shall post the explanation for this kind of
peculiarity in Lyrics usage after some digging
in my Sun Workstation!
- From: Ramki (@ cs515.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Fri Jun 19 18:15:13 EDT 1998
Bhaskar her vidhavai kolam will be a constant reminder of her balyavivagam. Kavignar adhanaal adhai kanavu engiraar/..ie kanavil varuvadhu muzhuvadhum namakku jnbagam irukkadhu. aedho konjam konjam jnabaga irukkum(neenga 4th standardle miss kitte adi vanginadhu jnabagam irurkkira madhiri:))
Lyrics for the songs from 'moondru mudichu''
Aadi velli song...
JC AAdi velli thedi unnai naan adaindha neram
kodi inbam naadi vandhen kaaviriyin oram
VJ ora kannil oora vaitha thenkavidhai chaaram
osai indri pesuvadhen aasai enum vedham
J: vedham solli melamittu medaikandu aadum
medhai kandu thathai ondru vidhai pala naadum
v: naadum ullam koodum vellam pesum mozhi mounam
raagam thannai moodi vaitha veenai aval chinnam
J: chinnamitta annakili vannasilai kolam
ennai aval pinnikolla endru varum kaalam
V: kaalamidhu kaalamendru kaadhal deivam vazhthum
gangai nadhi pongum kadal sangamathil koodum
J: aadi velli....
Vasantha kaala nadhigalile song...
JC: vasantha kaala nadhigalile
vairamani neeralaigal
neeralaigal meedhinile
nenjirandin ninavalaigal
VJ: ninaivalaigal thodarndhu vandhaal
neramellam kanavalaigal
kanavalaigal vazharvadharkku
kaamanavan malarkanaigal
J: malarkanaigal paindhuvittal
madi irandum panjanaigal
panjanaiyil palli kondaal
manam irandum thalai anaigal
V: thalai anaiyil mugam pudhaithu
sarasamidum pudhu kalaigal
pudhu kalaigal peruvadharkku
poomaalai manavinaigal
MSV: manavinaigal yaarudano
maayavanin vidhi alaigal
vidhi alaigal mudivu seiyum
vasantha kaala neeralaigal
- From: Bhaskar (@ spider-tb034.proxy.aol.com)
on: Fri Jun 19 18:31:55 EDT 1998
Ramki:
Wow! AvvlO seekkiram post panniteengala ^%%^$$#@$
Romba Thanks Ramki for the Lyrics!.
Approm, innOru ragasiyamaana vishayam, yaarukkum
solladheenga, naan 4th standard-la romba nalla
payyan, miss kittae addi vaaginadhae illa.
Ippo dhaan recent-aa miss kittae semma addi
vaangunadhu nyabagam irukku :-))))))
kaN vizhithu paartha podhu kalaindha vaNNamae
uN kai raegai ondru mattum ninavu chinnamae
Minnalae nee araindhadhu yaenadi... :-))))
Ippo neenga en kittae addi vaangaama ozhunga
poi padikkura vaelaiyaa paarunga Ramki!
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