Topic started by Hari (@ 202.62.76.163) on Mon Jun 10 02:03:59 EDT 2002.
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Rehman music was not suitable for "The Legend of Bhagat singh". if it was mastro then it would have become biggest hit of 20 th century
Responses:
- From: pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50)
on: Mon Jun 10 05:21:43 EDT 2002
C'mon, what do u mean? It is probably the most superlative score ever. It was so great of ARR not to listen to the old BS songs........I dont think Ir would have come up with a better score...i don't think he is suited for patriotic scores for that matter........
- From: pradeep (@ 203.199.12.50)
on: Mon Jun 10 05:23:12 EDT 2002
C'mon, what do u mean? It is probably the most superlative score ever. It was so great of ARR not to listen to the old BS songs........I dont think Ir would have come up with a better score...i don't think he is suited for patriotic scores for that matter........
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.43)
on: Mon Jun 10 06:50:59 EDT 2002
pOchuda...If u had stopped with the first stmt, some Raja bashing cud've been avoided.
- From: S (@ 128.107.253.43)
on: Mon Jun 10 06:52:06 EDT 2002
pradeep,
Either u r too biased a guy, or u haven't watched kAlApAni or Hey Ram...I don't wanna start another argument...don't try responding to me...won't get any response.
- From: sunfat (@ 203.199.215.110)
on: Mon Jun 10 07:25:01 EDT 2002
ponngada vennai
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.60.167)
on: Mon Jun 10 08:24:47 EDT 2002
S
How come you didn't give the same response to Hari?
I mean fair is fair. Oru kannule velakkennaiyum....
- From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.70.39)
on: Mon Jun 10 08:29:00 EDT 2002
A pertinent question: If the music was so good, why did Kamal go to other MDs after HeyRam?
Frankly, IR has outlived his hey days.
Unless you want your movie to go into oblivion, you won't want to approach the IR of today. And that is the sad truth.
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 09:19:25 EDT 2002
Hari,
Sorry, Arrs music perfectly matches the time line and the music styles found in those areas.
After LAAGAN , arr is doing a great job in getting the nativity in his music. I think you need to explore more before making a blind comment on ARRs music.
In this process of hating ARR, you are simply under estimating the talents of all the people involved in the production. It is the typical the quality of ..........(Fill in the blanks)
and Pradeep Yes! it a superlative score as far as the producers and the director are concerned, else they would not pay ARR.
- From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Mon Jun 10 09:19:53 EDT 2002
>>Rehman music was not suitable for "The Legend of Bhagat singh". if it was mastro then it would have become biggest hit of 20 th century
<<
This is a half truth. ARRs music for the movie WAS excellent. However IR too would have managed to create a wonderful score for the movie. Whether or not it becomes a hit, is IMO immaterial. The fact is ARRs score was nice...and sure IR would have given us good music for this film too. God please stop ARR-IR fight!
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Mon Jun 10 09:25:50 EDT 2002
ROTFL,
>>>> A pertinent question: If the music was so good, why did Kamal go to other MDs after HeyRam?
When I play street cricket, I don't need tendulkar ... thats what Kamal has done after HeyRam - there is not even one quality movie he did after HeyRam, all funny kind of movies (may not be funny for the producer ;-), So may be he didn't feel the need for IR !
>>>> Unless you want your movie to go into oblivion, you won't want to approach the IR of today. And that is the sad truth.
Go and talk to producers of Azhagi or kaasi ... I am sure they will have a different opinion ...
I agree IR is not the 'only' reason for the success of these two movies, But he was one of the main reasons, which was acknowledged by every magazine in tamil nadu and the directors of both the movies ..
NagaS
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 09:46:24 EDT 2002
Avai shanmugi made more money than heyram.
Tenali made more money than heyram.
PamalS made more money than Heyram.
(we will now hear this --- making money is not art,who cares we care only about ......
if so please tell us did IR work for free?, )
In the process of hating ARR, everyone simply under estimate the talents of all the people involved in the production. :(
avr: You would have scored better music than Arr,
summa solavendiyathu thane...kasa panama...:)
when one artist is commended for his work why take his pride away and give it to someone else just for the reason you hate the artist.This is also typical quality of .......
(fill in the blanks) :(:(:(
- From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:02:54 EDT 2002
some *junk* statement from some *....* guy, and everyone of us WASTING our time...... pongappaa...
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.61.97)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:07:24 EDT 2002
Sabesan
Oru point sonnaalum sariyaa sonneenga. :)
- From: OISG (@ 193.188.97.152)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:16:11 EDT 2002
Has IR scored music for Starwars,Jurassic park,Titanic etc?
some stupid site has mentioned these movie names as the biggest hits of 20th century instead of Poovarasan and Kumbagonam Gobalu which were the biggest hits.
Veli naatu sathi?
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.196)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:24:08 EDT 2002
NagaS
When I play street cricket, I don't need tendulkar
In the case of HeyRam, sorry, when you played real cricket you did not seek out Tendulkar but instead chose a new player. When the new player didn't cooperate, only then did you run to Tendulkar. So how can you say that you choose Tendulkar when you play real cricket?
p.s. obviously I know nuts about cricket, but the other obvious point should not be missed. :)
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:26:28 EDT 2002
Sabesan enna solla, monday morning...after 2 days of rest everyone is recharged.....we have to post something to save ARR, after all avarum oru tamizan thane ..:):)
OSIG sir, is this called "pushing the needle into banana" :):)
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:28:23 EDT 2002
ROTFL
when did heyram become real cricket match, was'nt it a benefit match for many? :):)
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.196)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:34:28 EDT 2002
That was NagaS' claim, O(pi)nion.
Actually I loved both HeyRam and Aalavanthan. :)
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:41:27 EDT 2002
ROTFL, thangal big time Kamal Vesiriyo....:)
If it was Heyram only i would not asked to you this question since you added alavanthan...i had to ask..:):) andha climax scenela
gas cylinders oda ore actkudupar pArunga.....superOsuper, antha kankolla katchiya we can see it and Rotfl (neja rotflpa!) for about 30 mins :):) :):)
coming back to topic...for the sake of it...
Rehman music was not suitable for "The Legend of Bhagat singh". if it was mastro then it would have become biggest hit of 20 th century
--- are we in the 21st now ?
:):)
- From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.196)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:47:14 EDT 2002
O(pi)nion
I admit that I admire Kamal quite a bit and that he is the best actor around cannot be denied.
True that Aalavanthan had excesses, but which movie doesn't? :)
The least you can offer him is that he tries to take Tamil movies to a different plane.
But I see now that he has almost given up: Panja Thanthiram, Naren, and more comedies. Hmmm. (peru moochu).
Coming back to topic, if someone had said Kamal would have made Bhagat Singh a big hit, we won't be arguing so much. :)
Before anyone jumps at me, all the above remarks are made in jest.
Appaadaa, thappichen. :)
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:50:25 EDT 2002
O(pi)nion,
I don't think Thenali etc., were successful for music ... now don't come and say thenali sold 150 pieces in a shop in coimbatore on very first day ... I was only talking about 'do you need IR for every movie' or for that matter 'do you need ARR for every movie',
ROTFL,
your question was 'why kamal didn't choose IR after HeyRam' to which I answered ... your new question (why kamal went to somebody else before choosing IR) is totally a different one to which kamal has answered, In Suntv interview he said, 'I wanted the movie to be better, so I went to IR', in that pre-release show which is supposed to talk about all the stars and key features of the movie, Kamal was talking about IR most of the time and the way he entered the movie in the last minute and made everything 'perfect' ...
If the film didn't run, its not IR's mistake, If kamal went to somebody else before booking IR - even thats not IR's mistake - question is, 'IR capable of scoring to a patriotic movie or not' to which everybody knows the answer (and some people just won't accept it :-),
FYI, I didn't tell ANYTHING good or bad about ARR's score for this Bhagath Singh movie ... Just because, I am not interested in Hindhi music, I talked here only because ROTFL told IR is no more a choice of producers thesedays and I wanted to prove it wrong.
When I talk about azagi and Kaasi, you comfortable ignore that and talk about poovarasan and kumbagonam gopalu ... that shows who is escaping ;-)
NOM ...
NagaS
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 10:54:55 EDT 2002
ROTFL, i have a brother who is much worse than you, he tells me alavandhan is different, people dont have the IQ to get it... :):) :) We should take GRE/IIT questions from alavandhan, make sure everyone has the IQ to compete :):)
do you know for humans, braying is hard or jumping from tree to tree is hard... but it does sound/look different when done....:):):)
Before you jump at me, all the above remarks are made in jest. Appaadaa, thappichom. :) :)
- From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203)
on: Mon Jun 10 11:01:36 EDT 2002
hmmm..... ROTFL sometimes i wonder, if u r the same person who shows so much maturity in some place and totally on the *other* side in some other place..... no wonder u like Alaavandaan :-)...
(pls don't take it seriously.... aiii, ungallkku maaatum thaan thappikka theriumaaa!!!!!)
- From: O(pi)nion (@ 209.130.217.102)
on: Mon Jun 10 11:08:13 EDT 2002
oh Nagas!....apidya :)
"I don't think Thenali etc., were successful for music ... "
"Go and talk to producers of Tenali ... I am sure they will have a different opinion"
enna sir you told this few hours ago......same rules applies to everyone illaiya...:):)
iduku per chapakatuthal nu tamilA solluvanga.
somehow, what may come... the bottom line for many here is "no credit should be given to ARR and his successful musical life", guys, why should we argue?.:):)
- From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203)
on: Mon Jun 10 11:20:26 EDT 2002
Onion - i beg to differ - that is not the case with *MANY* - i agree its for *SOME* only..... but the problem is, when ever a JUNK statement is made like this (not urs, the one at the top of this page), many pounce on it - pulling down IR as much as possible - and the result is, every other IR fan jumps in and starts to pounce, and as a result - oh well, u know what happens after that...... meanwhile the GENUIS who had started this thread would have disappeared..... hmm... oh well, what to do, ellorukkum pozhudhu poganum ellaaiyaaa...... :-))....
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