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Mumbai Moham - What do Tamils put up with the bad and mediocre singing of Mumbai artistes?

Topic started by Indhu (@ 24.76.127.63) on Sat Dec 1 22:44:28 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

This is my question....Udit Narayan, Hariharan, Sadhana Sargam, Kavitha Krishnamurti,Sonu Nigam - All sing in Tamil. But their Tamil is really very bad. Are Tamils deaf, tolerant, or have no PERUMAI in their own language? Is there really a shortage of good, tamil-speaking singers? Or is this really Tamil Inferiority Complex?

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• From: NCR (@ 206.30.30.2) on: Mon Dec 10 14:40:20 EST 2001
  
  Indhu,
  I forgot to mention the previous posting is not my posting, that is an article which I read in Outlook India. I posted the same, without adding my comments with the link to complete article.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 67.162.124.29) on: Mon Dec 10 14:41:18 EST 2001
  
  "vijay, i agree that 'olive oil' sounded very out of place in that song. Even oxygen-nirappi in anbe anbe from jeans sounded funny and spoilt the mood of the song.
  But i think the funny-ness of lyrics are sometimes designed to gain our attention. (i'm not justifying their use here)
  "
  
  Why not, I am sorry, but in this song it sounded out of place..maybe in a song like kaadhal sadugudu, VM could have demonstrated his English vocab :-)
  
  
• From: Indhu (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Mon Dec 10 14:41:38 EST 2001
  
  NCR,
  
  I just checked your link.
  
  If this isn't a TRAVESTY, I really don't know what is!
  
  Indhu
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 14:59:09 EST 2001
  
  neenga llarum veetla Tholkaapiya thamizh thaan pesareengala? Ippo pesara entha thamizhume suthamille. Athu suthammnu nenacha asutham. Athu hybriddnu kooda solluvaanga.
  
  Eppidi Paakareengalo appidi theiryum. Thamizhnaatle suthamaana thamizhe ille. Iruntha konjam kandupidichu engennu sollunga.
  
  Thread punnakku aayittirukkuthu!
  
  
• From: another job less guy (@ 151.201.226.58) on: Mon Dec 10 15:14:55 EST 2001
  
  flifo
  Aiviral Idukil Olive Ennai Poosi"
  he should have put..
  --> Aiviral Idukil "thenmarakudi ennai" Poosi
  --> Aiviral Idukil kacha ennai Poosi
  these lines two could have cooled many job less people here...
  
  i am now thinking how different directors will picturize it...
  1, shanker : will go to saudi to shoot a song on a top of a oil well
  2. KB will show a big slide saying Oil...
  3. MR will show a field and make you assume OIL
  4. Kamal will convert himself to an Oil field
  finally
  5. T.Rajendar will dig one in his house
  
  
• From: Ramki (@ 161.150.2.250) on: Mon Dec 10 15:16:08 EST 2001
  
  AJLG- hilarious posting :)
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 15:18:21 EST 2001
  
  another job less guy;
  
  Ean "Vilakku Ennai" vittuteenga.
  
  Your second part is "too good" imagination. Ungalukku nalla future irukku.
  
  
• From: ajlg (@ 151.201.226.58) on: Mon Dec 10 16:15:31 EST 2001
  
  Fliflo ...when you are here why do we need lampoil...NOM :):)
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 16:20:42 EST 2001
  
  ajlg; ok then let's go with olive oil itself :((
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 16:26:10 EST 2001
  
  FYI, "vilakkenaikku" "lampoil"nnu oru per iruppathu ippathaan theriyum. Inge vazhiyara velakkenai iruntha (ungalathyum seethu thaan solren) oru oorye koluthalaam...;))
  
  
• From: Counter (@ 208.134.115.242) on: Mon Dec 10 16:30:58 EST 2001
  
  I asked Sadhana Sargam to say "Vilakkennai" in her own stylish accent. She said "Fliflo". I said "Try it again". She said "Fliflo". I said .....
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 16:37:47 EST 2001
  
  appidyirundha koduthu vachchirukkanum..;))
  
  Counter (aka) backbone-less fellow (ali)as cheche...kaile pidikkamudiyaliye....whatever..thanks for the above s(j)oke.
  
  
• From: Ariviyal Vilayattu@Atlanta (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 17:57:05 EST 2001
  
  test
  
  
• From: ajlg (@ 151.201.226.58) on: Mon Dec 10 20:43:31 EST 2001
  
  fliflo,
  who told you lamp oil means vilakkenai?
  was it just a guess as it was compared to you...
  ;)
  
  flifo, "thangala illai", I understand that you are angry (atlast)
  this is how most felt when indhu and you were discussing great things in a very great detailed manner.
  
  
  
  
• From: Indhu (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Mon Dec 10 21:12:33 EST 2001
  
  Well, now that we've had a bit of tamashai (would that be Thomas in Tanglish??) perhaps we can get back to the topic at hand.
  
  If this thread is turning into "punnakku" then maybe the "punnyavans" can move on to other sites of higher learning and pilgrimage? Yes, please do us - the lessers - the favour!
  
  And - what was that "(ali)as" in the above posting? Another gem of gender-bias...or have we graduated to healthy homophobia?
  
  I now understand what Shakti (from an earlier posting) meant when she called us all pigs in a "saakadai."
  
  If sexist jokes/rejoinders, bigotry and misogyny are all wondrous source of laughter to you - then take this as a personal request: Start your own thread and indulge your view of the world elsewhere...Some of us "seriously" don't share your sense of humour. In fact, we find it to be offensive and insensitive.
  
  Indhu
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 21:44:15 EST 2001
  
  "I understand that you are angry (atlast) .."
  
  Ithuva unga thozhil. Unmaiyil solla ponaal I have just forgotten to put :) there. Ennai vilakkennainnu sonnalum, veppennainnu sonnalum, you can never, ever make me angry. (Ithukku pinnadi periya kathaye irukku..athu ippo venaam) Whatever, your loyalty and support to Indhu is appreciable.
  
  Indhu, I personally request you please do not take everything seriously. It seems you just wait for such offensive occasions. I have to make such comments because due to minute bites of some kosuru fellows. Please be little generous to write two sentences on them too..And if you do not like just surpass them.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Mon Dec 10 21:45:39 EST 2001
  
  read it without "because" above
  
  
• From: Indhu (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Dec 11 02:16:00 EST 2001
  
  Fliflo,
  
  I am not the serious person you make me out to be. I enjoy a good laugh myself - and have no qualms about being goofy or people having a good time.
  
  However, (yep,that dreaded however) I think that we have to unlearn some of our bigoted attitudes towards women, gay people, others of different persuasions, races and beliefs. I strongly believe that we can all learn to accept our differences and celebrate our common humanity. You sound like a person of respect, intellect and curiosity. Thoughtless people can say thoughtless things and that can be cast aside with "they don't know any better." It is when thoughtful people say thoughtless things that one really has to being to wonder and worry.
  
  Have fun - but make sure it is not at the expense of someone who is disadvantaged, marginalised or plain misunderstood or rejected by society. Laugh with people, but try not to laugh at them.
  
  I am happy to have started this thread. This is my first such endeavor on the internet. In fact, this is the first time I have ever been in a discussion forum with perfect, faceless strangers. But you know what - with every day this is feeling to be like a community. And I am glad to be part of it.
  I have been receptive to the participation here. I don't know about loyalty and support for "Indhu" - but I know that "Indhu" has made people write a good deal here - and I know the writing is more a sign of your investment in this issue. I am merely a catalyst.
  
  Please keep up the discussion.
  
  Best wishes, Indhu
  
  
• From: vimarsagan (@ 129.252.25.211) on: Tue Dec 11 03:47:56 EST 2001
  
  Thoda...matter peter aayiduchu...
  
  O.k come back to the original discusion guys...
  
  I was just watching u guys discussing...looks like suddenly u guys requires my help, to put u guys back in the track...so here i am...
  
  
• From: thesameoldjoblessguy (@ 151.201.37.63) on: Tue Dec 11 09:08:24 EST 2001
  
  Top 3 easiest things in the world as of today
  
  0. Talking about things (like music) to a great extent without knowing much about it.
  1. Starting a thread in newtfmpage.
  2. free advice for everyone (include mine too:)
  
  
  ..serithu vaza vendum pirar sirika vazthidathe....
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Tue Dec 11 09:32:53 EST 2001
  
  tsojlg (alias) ajlg;
  
  ungalukku joblessnu perle solla vendiyathu illa. intha maathiri appo, appo pointgala alli veesitirundha pothum.
  
  
  
• From: Indhu (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Dec 11 12:56:18 EST 2001
  
  So that's it for this thread, I guess. A slow and inevitable slide into jokes, chitchat and general goodfornothingness?
  
  Maybe these fora are called threads for a reason. They tatter, even though the fabric is of top-quality?
  Indhu
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Tue Dec 11 13:48:25 EST 2001
  
  Indhu,
  
  thread is sort of a child process that is forked from a bigger process to complete a small task and exit.
  
  similarly this discussion is a thread whcih is spawned off from the tfm page process. it will complete the discussion and slowly exit.
  
  epadi flifo thathuvam # 501 sollittenaa!
  
  allarum jora kai thattunga!
  
  plus 1 more point. Dont defend the prostitution of tamil in the hands of the suntv moontv presenters its disgusting!
  
  indhu do not also defend the globalization of tamil in this sense... we dont learn french or german because the lagguage was considerable adultrated to suit our taste.
  
  similarly we should avoid tamil being hammered out as garbage.
  
  veetula sutha tamizh illatalum ..sariyaana tamizh'la thaanga pesarom. appo appo onnu rendu english varthai varathu thappu illai.. but konji konji kuzhaivathu thaan sir thavaru!
  
  some samples of tamil... heard recently
  
  sir drinks "coolings'a" irukku sir... neenga "feelings" avalinaa "drink" pannikanga sir! enna avanga family "death" ayiducha illayana thariyalai sir!
  
  antha "madathukitta"(madam) "forutha"(form) vangittu "tayathukku"(time) "counteraanda" vanthiganna....
  
  
  yow! ithellam ennaiyya koothu!
  
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ 213.120.56.41) on: Tue Dec 11 14:48:36 EST 2001
  
  I don't know if this has already been mentioned in this thread, but on Sunday (9^th December 2001), an interview of Karthik Raja was broadcast on Deepam TV (Europe's Sun TV franchisee). Karthik Raja said that the reason for Tamil music directors using singers from the North was that record companies offer to buy audio rights if North Indian singers (who presumably have contracts with these companies) are employed. This leads to producers putting pressure on directors who in turn put pressure on music directors to employ North Indian singers.
  
  
• From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.218) on: Tue Dec 11 14:55:02 EST 2001
  
  Bharath;
  
  Veluthu vaangureenga..Unga thathuvam pullarichchudichu :-)). Atha udu samee. Thamilnnu etho onnu ezhutheertheengale..topkku poitte...epdi saamee nee avvolo thamil pesare..
  
  

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