Topic started by Subbiah (@ 192.39.1.92) on Wed Mar 7 14:18:35 EST 2001.
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There has always been a complaint in TFM DF that IR fans manipulate ratings etc.
Please visit the latest opinion poll conducted by Kumudam. IR wins by huge majority. If you find time, please read through the various opinions from all over the world. It is really amazing to find that we are not alone in praising IR - The Genius
Responses:
- From: vamban-for ir_bashers (@ 192.135.244.69)
on: Thu Mar 8 01:37:02 EST 2001
subbaiah,
Didn't u know kumudam also manipulate things ?? :-)
- From: yaaro (@ 172.140.154.16)
on: Thu Mar 8 19:35:37 EST 2001
http://www.kumudam.com/testfra.html
fliflo,trend,AA and others,read and enjoy the views on IR and ARR.
- From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66)
on: Thu Mar 8 22:11:38 EST 2001
Now the time has come for all people to realise that it is atrocious to compare Himalayas with Parangi Malai.
Am feeling really proud after reading the opinion poll. Vaazhga IR !! Valarga avar pugazh !!
- From: IsaiPriyan (@ 164.164.86.66)
on: Thu Mar 8 22:14:14 EST 2001
Hello Mr.Vamban,
If u cannot accept the truth, please dont make comments like "Kumudham manipulates polls". A reputed magazine like Kumudam, which has been in circulation for ages cannot easily sensationalise things, as you think. Mind you, it was the same magazine whih few weeks ago presented IR's so-called controversial speech. And I know what happened in the DF after that.
So accept the truth "Himalayas cannot be compared with Parangi Malai"
- From: vamban (@ 192.135.244.69)
on: Fri Mar 9 03:49:38 EST 2001
isaipriyan,
English la sarcasm nu oru vArththai irukku kELvippatirukkeengaLA ???
nAn unga katchi oi :-)
- From:
(@ 203.197.141.183) on: Fri Mar 9 10:03:16 EST 2001
FYI
The same magazine few years before accused IR of lifting tunes from VandemAtharam?
Is still kumudam reliable?
Just out of curiosity...
- From: Dorai (@ 216.217.46.130) on: Fri Mar 9 13:35:57 EST 2001
Hello,
Kumdudam accused IR of lifting tunes from VandemAtharam??.
I would like to know the details. What tunes did IR lift from VandemAtharam?
- From: doubter (@ 208.142.210.36) on: Fri Mar 9 15:13:18 EST 2001
Kumudam accused IR of using the beats (not tunes, by the way) of Vandemataram, for the BGM of 'kizhakkum maerkkum', a Napolean-Devayani movie by mu.kaLanjiyam.
- From: Sridhar (@ 164.100.80.106) on: Sat Mar 10 14:55:53 EST 2001
doubter, that was not just accused but also proved. Also, listen to the middle part of Thai Manne Vanakkam ni Vande Mataram. The line goes "ennai alakki valathai". Switch to Kathalukku Mariyathai song "Ennai thalatta varuvayo". What a joke,the so-called "best" song in the movie is a fudge.
- From: Vijay Venkatram J (@ 203.197.154.119) on: Sun Mar 11 01:29:00 EST 2001
Sridhar,
Go to an ENT specialist - Check ur ears! I believe u r biassed!
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- From: Sridhar (@ 164.100.80.106) on: Sun Mar 11 01:56:08 EST 2001
hi Vijay
I am sorry, but my ears are absolutely fine. I am not biassed at all. I am the 1st guy to criticise ARR for a bad song or praise IR for a great song. But the resemblance is obvious. And when I see lots of ARR fans praising IR, I see only bashing of ARR by IR fans. That shows who is biased and who isnt.
- From: vc (@ 202.9.169.224) on: Sun Mar 11 06:07:52 EST 2001
Sridhar,
Honestly, I don't find any truth in your
statement.
- From: Sridhar (@ 203.197.182.211) on: Sun Mar 11 07:09:08 EST 2001
well, i am sorry. I did. But I am not going to ask you to have your ears checked. It was just my opinion. I hope the others also realise that and refrain from making such stupid statements.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Sun Mar 11 08:13:27 EST 2001
Sridhar,
Yours is interesting. I have listened to vandematharam some 100 times. The perticular song "thalatta varuvaayo" from KM, I have listened but I never thought to consentrate on the music totally. Nevertheless, the song is one the best of IR and definitely one in top ten of my list. This sunday, my job is to try to identify what you say.
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Sun Mar 11 08:20:49 EST 2001
Sridhar
And when I see lots of ARR fans praising IR, I see only bashing of ARR by IR fans. That shows who is biased and who isnt.
There seems to be some truth in this statement. Your other sentences might be arguable, but this one even hc IR fans will agree.
Hi...hi...
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189) on: Sun Mar 11 22:53:57 EST 2001
Sridhar,
And when I see lots of ARR fans praising IR, I see only bashing of ARR by IR fans. That shows who is biased and who isnt.... Ore oru example kaatunga. Kan kulira paarkkalaam :-)
- From: Vijay (@ 156.153.255.130) on: Mon Mar 12 00:12:59 EST 2001
Look at the amount of new threads that shows utter *hatredness* of ARR, (The Most Worst MD ...). People here esp. at newtfmpage can't digest on other (Non IR family) success. I mean it & have seen it.
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189) on: Mon Mar 12 00:38:41 EST 2001
Vijay,
Believe it or not, it was MSV fans against IR fans and now it is IR fans vs ARR fans. IR fans support YSR/KR and ARR fans support Harris/Praveen. Hatredness is seen in all threads and it is not only one group against another IMO.
- From: rahmanfanatic (@ 161.142.2.10) on: Mon Mar 12 00:43:25 EST 2001
ir better than arr? hahahhahahahah
what a joke ?
even at his ultimate best ir won't come close to producing a song like ishq bina .
arr fans praise ir cause we know who is better .
ir fans can't accept it , and only can venge their anger but suppressing their admiration for arr .
pathetic bunch ! losers ! just like ir !
not even his kids would get any close to arr .
hahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!!!!
arr rules
- From: IR-is-next-to-god-if-not-Himself (@ 172.183.1.203) on: Mon Mar 12 02:25:35 EST 2001
IR tunes celebrating love is countless, but sure he didnt make love songs with a singers trying to move thier bowels to celebrate love as in Ishq bina, kadhal rojave, roja roja.. Let me try to remember few of never par with
first love:
kadalin deepam onru..
teen love:
anandha ragam
atlast I found you:
naan thedum sevandhi
pain of love:
andhi mazhai pozhigirathu
a boat date:
Thalatuthe vanam
love & war:
sundari kannal oru sedhi
love and its future:
Nee thane enthan vasantham
Intimacy in private:
vanitha mani vanna
Intimacy in public:
kootathile koil pura
nostalgic:
Rasathi unna kanadha nenju
why cant I love two?:
Raja raja chozhan naan
Think of tunes in the past for such songs. It may not exist, if at all exist it wont be as IR did. I dont say it was bad before, but Look at the grace and individuality IR has shown. This is just tip of the ice berg.
I dont know if these are better than any Ishq bina made by any R S T U V W, But they are great on thier own right. Try to respect it or just dont talk about it.
- From: vc (@ 210.214.178.77) on: Mon Mar 12 08:09:06 EST 2001
IR is next...himself,
Excellent analysis.
- From: Sridhar (@ 203.197.182.105) on: Mon Mar 12 14:18:48 EST 2001
IR is ...
ur choices were rite. You undid urself by stating "Ishq bina made by any R S T U V W". This is supposed to be the respect u wish others to show.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.250) on: Mon Mar 12 23:40:13 EST 2001
so you both(sridhar and IR-is-next-to-god-if-not-Himself) agree that you don't show respect to others :-)
- From: Sridhar (@ 164.100.80.111) on: Tue Mar 13 00:48:11 EST 2001
kupps
I was the one who pointed out the greatness and shortcomings of both of them. Whereas all IR fans do is just bash ARR.
I have done my bit..
- From: ravi k.s. ravichandran (@ 128.110.251.70) on: Fri Mar 16 21:23:04 EST 2001
IR-is-next-to-god-if-not-Himself:
Excellent Classification of IR's love songs. I never thought that way, probably since I did not see all the movies of these songs. Your classification aptly classifies his various compositions for different situations of love. Yours is probably one of the best postings in the TFM forum I liked. This classification clearly shows how good IR is..It is an objective classification..since I know every little bit of these GEMS.
I went back and listened to these songs in my collection again and surely it fits very well.
This clealy shows how capable IR is to compose for different situations..I am amazed.
Keep it up !
- From: ravi k.s. ravichandran (@ 128.110.251.70) on: Fri Mar 16 21:23:12 EST 2001
IR-is-next-to-god-if-not-Himself:
Excellent Classification of IR's love songs. I never thought that way, probably since I did not see all the movies of these songs. Your classification aptly classifies his various compositions for different situations of love. Yours is probably one of the best postings in the TFM forum I liked. This classification clearly shows how good IR is..It is an objective classification..since I know every little bit of these GEMS.
I went back and listened to these songs in my collection again and surely it fits very well.
This clealy shows how capable IR is to compose for different situations..I am amazed.
Keep it up !
- From: ravi k.s. ravichandran (@ 128.110.251.70) on: Fri Mar 16 21:25:44 EST 2001
In Kumudam poll:
One of the guys wrote: If IR is ROM, ARR is RAM. I had a good laught at that !
- From: eden (@ 210.214.5.204) on: Sat Mar 17 04:34:05 EST 2001
This poll had severe limitation on the size of your posting...I typed a large one and then had to keep on editing before fitting into the no. of characters they allowed...which has forced the (unfortunate) removal of some of my compliments to ARR:-(
Well, IR deserves my best appreciation anyway and I can't allow any MD to crowd that out...
- From: unmaivilambi (@ 152.163.195.177) on: Sat Mar 17 14:43:48 EST 2001
Yes, Raja is next to God. That is why his music has passed away and will no longer be appreciated by Humans.
- From: Dorai (@ 216.217.46.130) on: Fri Mar 9 13:35:57 EST 2001
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