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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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Neel's VJ Songs

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• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Tue Jun 11 05:33:49 EDT 2002
  
  bm, the second? . keep off the forum yourself & naaz welcome back.
  sane voices should prevail because the truth involves all of us.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.79) on: Tue Jun 11 08:43:57 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz
  Where are the self-appointed torch-bearers of civility and decorum when you need them?
  Where is the revolt against such repugnance?
  Are the DFers here too self-absorbed to counter such hate-mongering?
  I am still to hear one word of chastisement.
  
  Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry alone.
  I have had many experiences in the last few months when I had to fight my own battles. I am sure you would have witnessed quite a bit.
  
  Running away (sorry to say this) is nothing short of cowardice.
  
  
• From: s0 (@ 128.119.85.50) on: Tue Jun 11 09:58:18 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz, don't feel bad about the lack of condemnation of bad-mouths. it is a case of sooriyan-a paaththu naai-kolaikkaradhu. they are absurd to say the least and absurdities are better left alone. be the sun and just ignore the dogs. childra pasanga, vittu thallunga.
  and welcome back. looking forward to your participation.
  
  
• From: Priya (@ 198.23.26.253) on: Tue Jun 11 10:04:42 EDT 2002
  
  
  
  Back to VJ. Has she sung any other Kannada songs after Neela?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Tue Jun 11 10:24:02 EDT 2002
  
  kannada music industry lost its original glory and tradition. really not much hope for very good songs regularly.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Jun 12 00:30:34 EDT 2002
  
  Vani Jairam has nearly ruled KFM alongwith Janaki, hasnt she? I havent heard her too much in Kannada but I am mesmerised by her renditions in KAVIRATNA KALIDAS, BILI HENDTHI and one song in GANESH MAHIME by MSV. High pitch!
  
  Vijaybhaskar once said that he had recorded a thumri with Vani before she had done her Guddi songs. So does this mean that this thumri with VB is Vani's first song and not the Guddi ones? Any idea whether this thumri is commercially available?
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.221) on: Wed Jun 12 06:29:15 EDT 2002
  
  When I think Aboorva Raagangal I think of Vani Jeyram and when I think of Vani Jeyram I think of Malligai en mannan mayangum and when I hear Malligai song I think of Naaz. :)
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Wed Jun 12 06:31:31 EDT 2002
  
  whenever I think ROTFL I think ROFTEL. :-))
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Jun 12 07:26:30 EDT 2002
  
  ROTFL:
  
  If I may ask...what makes u think of Naaz when u hear "malligai en Mannan"? Also, naaz is not gonna be too happy to read that post above..coz you have mis-spelt Vani Jairam's name :)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.121) on: Wed Jun 12 09:26:01 EDT 2002
  
  What is ROFTEL Ragavan?
  
  AVR
  I am just trying to make Naaz laugh and come back. And isn't it supposed to spelt Vani Jeyaram?
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.94.115) on: Wed Jun 12 09:44:48 EDT 2002
  
  ROTFL, do u remember? some time back, in one of the threads I reffered u as ROFTEL. :-)) Someone expnanded that also.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.121) on: Wed Jun 12 10:17:33 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks but no thanks Ragavan.
  It cannot have been anything complimentary. :)
  
  
• From: av (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Thu Jun 13 09:45:16 EDT 2002
  
  Does anybody have a link to Vani's songs in Balanagamma - "manmadha raagangale" and "sangeetha un dhegam unro".....raajangahm has them but they are just 1 minute clips. Are the entire songs available?
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Jun 15 10:44:53 EDT 2002
  
  An interesting interview on the current state of the commercial indian music scene.
  
  http://www.themusicmagazine.com/madhavdasint.html
  
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.44) on: Mon Jun 17 08:25:32 EDT 2002
  
  I heard this Andha Ezhu Naatkal song recently after a very long time.
  
  Swara Raga sruthiyodu vilaydum Kaviye
  
  PJ sings the malayalam part and Vani sings the Tamil part.Delightful song.(I am not for the MVD-VJ duet in the same movie)
  
  Incidentally this song never featured in the movie or atleast when i saw it on DAY 1 at Kalaiarangam trichy.
  
  This made me feel that Mandhara Malare (PJ -LRE) in Naan Avanillai -MSV must have been a PJ-VJ
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.44) on: Mon Jun 17 08:26:01 EDT 2002
  
  I heard this Andha Ezhu Naatkal song recently after a very long time.
  
  Swara Raga sruthiyodu vilaydum Kaviye
  
  PJ sings the malayalam part and Vani sings the Tamil part.Delightful song.(I am not for the MVD-VJ duet in the same movie)
  
  Incidentally this song never featured in the movie or atleast when i saw it on DAY 1 at Kalaiarangam trichy.
  
  This made me feel that Mandhara Malare (PJ -LRE) in Naan Avanillai -MSV must have been a PJ-VJ
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.44) on: Mon Jun 17 08:27:03 EDT 2002
  
  Sorry Venkatesh!Stole your copyright!
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Mon Jun 17 09:45:19 EDT 2002
  
  OISG - En E-madal kidaiththadha? Sollungal!
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.44) on: Mon Jun 17 10:00:55 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz
  
  Got it.some problem with the server since morning and my yahoo mail got stuck here.Should reach you tomorrow.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.123) on: Mon Jun 17 10:08:55 EDT 2002
  
  I find it very hard to believ that Manthaara malarey is NOT by LRE.
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.44) on: Mon Jun 17 12:13:23 EDT 2002
  
  Mandhara Malare is indeed by LRE.But it should have been by VJ.
  
  I get the same feel with Oorgolam pogindra (Akkarai pachai) should have been by VJ.(Of course MSV compensated it by using VJ in a similar(?) tune, OOrayiram thiruvasagam unnodu naan pesuven)
  
  Sorry ROTFL,englese maranthupochu!Competer theriyalai!
  
  
• From: saravanan (@ 195.229.240.242) on: Tue Jun 18 00:11:27 EDT 2002
  
  Hi all! I'm new to this forum. But I'm too an aredent fan of VJ. Speaking of malayalam kalandha tamizh songs, there is one such lovely song by Jayachandran and VJ in the film 'Mookanangkayiru'.
  (Mei silirkkuthu). Has anyone heard it? Music by MSV.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.140.133) on: Tue Jun 18 06:55:15 EDT 2002
  
  must have been = should have been
  
  my mistake OISG. underwear? oops. :)
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Tue Jun 18 07:41:26 EDT 2002
  
  Oh so Naaz has ended his exile alast.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Jun 18 08:52:29 EDT 2002
  
  Saravanan - Meisilirkudhu is an interesting composition. Thank you for reminding me. I can still recall the "chende" interludes in that duet. Another (similar, but without malayalam) duet is by SPB-VJ from Mouli's Vaa Indha Pakkam :"Ival Devadhai Idhaz Madhulai." Music:Shyam
  (The same film had a popular hit "Anandha Dhagam Un Koondhal Pookkal Theerkkumo?" (SPB/SJ)
  
  
• From: OISG (@ 213.150.188.254) on: Tue Jun 18 09:05:10 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz
  
  Still probs with yahoo .
  
  Anandha ragam is by deepan and SJ.Vairamuthu was in his Kavingnar state in this song.Jannal Kambi ..and all !Later he graduated to become Kavi perarasu to write oh!podu!
  
  There was a VJ song in a Mouli s movie in which Srikanth plays a man caught between 2 wives!Fatafat was one of the heroines. Even after a serious brain storming i managed to recollect the MSV song which is like
  
  Irandu veedu Irandu katil thoonga idamillai
  Irandu nenjam Irandu Sontham bandha paasam illai
  
  Any idea about the movie and song?
  
  Chendai interludes ..apart from Mandhara malare and to some extent in Madhavi ponmayilal ( to depict padminin s anger) the instrument was not used effectively by our MDs.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.240.245) on: Tue Jun 18 09:10:13 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz- one small correction- Anandha dhaagam was by Deepan Chakravarthi & SJ- great song!
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.240.245) on: Tue Jun 18 09:12:11 EDT 2002
  
  OISG, the film was Ivargal Vidhyasamanavargal-
  the other wife was Srividya
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Tue Jun 18 09:17:43 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks for the data correction, guys! It's that wretched "listening" in memory thing again. I have not heard these songs, although I still get to hum them with the words all over the place.
  Deepan Chakravarthi was another singer with potential who went by the wayside.
  
  Movie in question, OISG : Ivargal Vithyasamanavargal.
  I don't recall the song. A bold film though, all in the wake of Sila Nerangalil and other such.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.1.246) on: Tue Jun 18 13:16:17 EDT 2002
  
  From Ivargal Vidhyasamanavargal, I seem to remember a song by SJ and Savithri- azhagiya pen oru--. I don't remember a VJ song.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Fri Jun 21 15:08:24 EDT 2002
  
  Is the song "Kripairayappa..." from Ormagal Marikkumo? (Mal. *ing Kamalahasan and Vidhubala) a VJ solo? Can someone please confirm this?
  A link, if available, would be nice too.
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.66) on: Sat Jun 22 00:47:21 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz,
  your liking for Vani is only too well known. Don't you feel that her singing a lot of avoidable cabaret numbers for the likes of anuradha,jayamalini led to the glean wearing off vani. or did she take to singing such such numbers because she wasn't getting other songs. probably since late eighties! How many of such songs would she have sung. I heard a couple of them on Tv they were awfully bad.It is painful that the " ezhu surangal" singer had to sing such songs.
  
  
• From: naaz (@ 24.76.127.63) on: Sat Jun 22 09:47:38 EDT 2002
  
  Vengayam - Thanks for addressing your query to me.
  Yes, I do admire VJs abilities as a singer. She is one among the handful of singers whom I listen to with great attention and relish.
  I can't really answer your question about how singers are chosen for "cabaret" numbers, or if singers who are (under)employed are happy for even the "cheap" scraps that come their way. I am aware that VJ has sung about a dozen or two so-called "night-club" numbers.
  I think your "pain" arises from a clash of image(s.) VJ has (intentionally or not,) an association with "classicism" and "piety" and hence her name is intertwined with the Aboorva Ragangal and Shankarabharanams etc. But she is also a professional "singer" and I don't believe she has too much of a choice in the songs that came her way. See "Neerada Neram Nalla Neram" (Vaira Nenjam) and "Madhanotsavam Radhiyoduthan" (Sadhurangam) and "Vaa Vaa Pakkam Vaa" (Thangamagan) or "Thanimayil Yaar Ival" (Azhagae Unnai Aradhikkiraen) are all suggestive and "sexy" cabaret/contest songs. VJ I am sure is happy about these examples. Every singer has bagful of embarassing songs which they would disown very quickly if they could, (particularly if their singing career spans decades.) But this is not how a singer's true worth ought to be evaluated. Yes, VJ admittedly has her share of bad/mediocre/forgettable songs. But the songs that come her way are beyond her control. More importantly, as a singer when you are summoned for a recording, you don't even know what the song is 'til you sit down with the MD and arranger and the other singer(s) to rehearse the tune before the take!
  I doubt singers have much say (as there are so many replacements, and so many people only too eager to take your place,) in FM. They take what comes their way, hoping ,I am sure, that the good stuff will rise and outlast time. The bad stuff will sink, and will quickly be forgotten. VJ has nothing to worry on that front.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.240.245) on: Sun Jun 23 04:20:43 EDT 2002
  
  Naaz, I agree with you absolutely- all singers including PS have had their share of such mediocre/bad songs- no one is an exception to this. It is, as you say, because we usually associate VJ with gems like Ezhu swarangal, Naathamennum kovilile, Kannan kovil paravai etc, that it comes as an unpleasant shock when we hear her crooning "Anybody can kiss me" (Vaa vaa pakkam vaa).
  But,as you say, even some of her 'suggestive'numbers were nothing to be ashamed of- Nitham nitham nelluchoru and Manjal araikkum pothu are some more examples.
  However whenever she sang such 'bad' songs, she also sang a lot of 'good' songs in the same period- as if to make up!
  
  For example, if we take the year 1985, she sang some eminently forgettable songs like Ithu rosa poovu-Oru Kaithiyin Diary, Soda Soda- Mangamma sabatham, My dear, young lover- Jansi etc, and some mediocre songs like Aatathil naane - Paadum vanambadi, Aativecha aadavenum- Nalla thambi, Solli adipenadi- Padikkathavan, Kasthuri maane-Kolusu and Maalai mudhal kaalai- Unnai thedi varuven,but look at some of the great songs- the haunting Sogamey vaazhkkayin ragama from Thavam, the semi-classical Saranam saravanane from Aval Sumangalithaan, Rama naamam from Sri Raghavendrar,Isairajane from Kannirasi, Mari thirisooli from Mel maruvathoor aadhiparasakthi, Meisilirkuthu and Sri raman varukindra from Mookanaangkayiru, Konjum malar manjam from Janani,Pon udhadu ennum from Sugamana Ragangal,Thandhana thandhana from Oru Malarin Payanam, Then paayum velai from Powrnami Alaigal,Velli nila from Amudagaanam, Muthu muthu punnagayo from Sandosha kanavugal, Chinna nila from Nagam, Devi sridevi from Veli, Yaaro Yaaro from Panam pathum seiyum, many songs from Rajarishi, Navagraha Nayaki,Asha-- you'll realise that at any given time, the number of her good songs are much, much more than her bad/mediocre ones.
  
  

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