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Deva's Hindi Debut in Hrithikroshan's Movie

Topic started by Pozhudhu pogadhavan (@ 12.92.215.167) on Wed May 16 16:33:26 EDT 2001.
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News according to Dinakaran.

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• From: haris (@ 148.87.1.170) on: Wed May 16 17:43:08 EDT 2001
  
  use,
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/4995.17.30.38.html
  
  
• From: I am-not-Hrithik-fan (@ 202.41.117.61) on: Thu May 17 01:36:58 EDT 2001
  
  Paavam Hrithik ! for him, this film will be like a "dhrishti suzhi"!
  
  
• From: Neels (@ 209.177.206.90) on: Thu May 17 10:34:27 EDT 2001
  
  But I am sure Deva's inspirations will be better than Anu Malik's and Rajesh Roshan's.
  
  Way to go Deva!
  Yaam petra 'Inbam' peRuga iv vaiyyagam!!!
  
  
• From: tns (@ 203.199.237.39) on: Thu May 17 11:13:36 EDT 2001
  
  Deva has tuned more than 3000 film songs in that 300 are his originals....Only Kaadhala....from Avvai Shanmugi is used in Hindi...He will pick up 6 tunes from the remaining 299 tunes and surely KARAI serndhu viduvar.....TNS
  
  
• From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189) on: Fri May 18 23:38:20 EDT 2001
  
  TNS,
  
  Can you give the copied songs of Deva in his last 10 movies as an example? Pls don't exaggerate. He might have copied but gave beautiful numbers. You only need a Tamilian to pull another. What is ARR doing? Exporting from Tamil to Hindi and importing from Hindi to Tamil. Ada pongappa.
  
  I agree with Neels. He is much better than the likes of Annu/Roshan. Best of Luck Deva.
  
  
• From: nnn (@ 161.142.100.85) on: Fri May 25 22:52:32 EDT 2001
  
  ARR started an import/export company!!!
  
  
• From: Raja (@ 205.188.193.207) on: Fri May 25 23:07:17 EDT 2001
  
  Guys, Please chill out!!!
  Deva has given many great numbers starting from Asai till date. I like lot of his songs which were composed with strong classical background. Regarding the Gana songs who have understand the compulsion from the directors for the front bench audience. Lets hope another tamilian succeed in bollywood where they have stupids like anu malik and also manage to get national award.
  
  Cheers
  Raj
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.130.13) on: Mon May 28 01:15:11 EDT 2001
  
  Let us wish Deva to taste the success in Hindi also.
  Do well Deva!
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 64.172.24.131) on: Tue May 29 00:11:58 EDT 2001
  
  Deva also knows percussion based rhythm :)..except that it sounds little more ethnic than say, ARR's. So I think he will do well in Hindi. Also, they have good arrangers, assistants et. al (like Ranjit Bharot) etc who can do the 'adaptation' or 'modernisation' needed for the HFM world. You never know he probably will be successful there as well. I understand Sandeep Chowta is chennai based. So this is not going to be a major shift for the Hindi Film people.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Tue May 29 03:25:40 EDT 2001
  
  Kiru...Hi !
  
  
  sandeep chowta is Chennai based ? how did that happen ?
  
  
• From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.222.2) on: Tue May 29 04:27:54 EDT 2001
  
  not many english songs will be availble in tamil hereafter :-( if both anu malik and deva are going to be in HFM :-(
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.47.171.171) on: Tue May 29 04:51:20 EDT 2001
  
  Velaiyaththavan,
  
  Don't worry, Vaali is there in TFM, He will make sure that you get enough 'ENGLISH' Songs :-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: S (@ 64.104.128.15) on: Tue May 29 09:16:07 EDT 2001
  
  kiru,
  chowta is a bangalorean.
  
  
• From: e.hari (@ 199.67.138.20) on: Tue May 29 10:36:19 EDT 2001
  
  S,
  Yes chowta is bangalorean. But he has his music studio setup in madras. In one of the interviews, He said that madras is the most muscially happening city in india.
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.168.237) on: Tue May 29 15:42:18 EDT 2001
  
  There was also a pop-singer whose debut single was quite good and featured on MTV...I forget his name..I read that he said while promoting his album in Chennai that original and creative music is more appreciated and encouraged in the South...let's keep that spirit burning !
  
  
• From: suresh kumar (@ 203.106.177.235) on: Tue Jun 5 11:07:26 EDT 2001
  
  Deva has composed many beautiful songs. example
  - oo Keechi kiliye (mugavari)
  - Macarina (kushi)
  - April mathathil (vaalee)
  and many more.
  These music are far much better than what usually appears in the Hindi songs. By the way ,Hindi film songs are always the same. The female singers have similar voices which sometimes makes us difficult to detect and bore us, ex. alka yagnik, lata, asha, anuradha paudwal,sadhana sargam, kavita paudwal...
  Among them, i think kavita krishnamurthy is the only singer which we can guess correctly.
  We are gifted because tamil movie singers have their own unique voice, ex. chitra, harini, swarnalatha, uma ramanan, susila, anuradha sriram.
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Tue Jun 5 22:13:09 EDT 2001
  
  suresh kumar:
  the three songs that you mentioned wwere exact copys from english version. I saw a program in TV which said and showed this. I don't remember the originals. Some body who knows this can definitely help you.
  
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 198.211.204.200) on: Wed Jun 6 10:33:02 EDT 2001
  
  Suresh/Common Friend.,
  Macarina is the POP version of 'Unnai aRainthaal' - old MGR Number (BTW, Who is the MD for this song ? MSV ?)
  
  Deva already copied this song as 'Oh mummy' song in 'Minsarak kaNNa' - looks like he is not fully satisfied and then he reworked on it to come-up with superhit 'Macarina' ;-)
  
  Some time back in SunTV Saptha swarangaL program, one small kid sang all these three songs together - Oru pallavi, oru saraNam, again one pallavi and it showed clearly how clever deva is when it comes to copying !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: sats (@ 139.177.224.100) on: Wed Jun 6 12:16:01 EDT 2001
  
  Nagas
  
  adhu "unnai arindhal " unnai arainthal ille
  
  :->
  
  
• From: Arasu (@ 64.133.24.16) on: Wed Jun 6 12:50:53 EDT 2001
  
  Unnai Arindhal - is by KVM
  
  By the way- unnai Araindhal - is funny and may be apt for MGR singing the song...
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186) on: Thu Jun 7 02:17:45 EDT 2001
  
  sats,
  Thanks for the correction., 'Unnai ARainthaal' may be a song for GowndamaNi - Duet with Senthil ;-)
  
  Unnai ARainthaal,
  Naan UNnai ARainthaal,
  kannam reNdum pazuththuvidum,
  valiththaalum,
  thudiththaalum
  nee athaith thaangi vaazhnthaakaNum
  
  ;-)))
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.169.188.186) on: Thu Jun 7 05:17:36 EDT 2001
  
  According to this paga, Deva has done some exceptional BGM work for Ajith's 'Citizen'., Avarae ninaichhcaalum muRiyadikka mudiyaathaam.,
  
  http://www.tamilcinema.com/cinenews.asp?fname=Citizen3.htm
  
  In one of the interviews IR mentioned that the toughest part in BGM is to score music for comedy and thriller movies .... Intha thrillerkku Deva Ennathaan paNNiyirukkiRaarnnu paarppoomee :-)
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: S (@ 64.104.128.15) on: Thu Jun 7 10:28:42 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS,
  Deva might even copy the BG Scores for which i have 'n' examples (basha: when rajnikant says "en pEru mAnickam, enakku innoru pEr irukku..". The dialogues stop there and score takes over. that piece is the title score of judgement Day - brad fiedel)
  Having said that, I really felt his score for vaali was good. He showed some promise in BG score
  in moonravadhu kaN (which came in 93-94, i believe)
  
  
• From: bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Jun 7 17:34:41 EDT 2001
  
  deva deserves no credit.. i guess this thread is givin him more credit than he deserves
  
  aasai-
  1) thilothama, konjam naal poru, menamma - all copies from ofra-ul-haza
  
  Nerukku Ner
  1) akila akila - buffallo soldier
  2) manam verumbuthey - mana vyasakam
  3)aval varuvaala, thudikindra kaatha - again ofra-ul-haza
  
  Valee: this is a super copy album
  
  1)sona sona - suzanna (by elvis presly)
  2) april mathathil - say love(elvis presely)
  3)Nilavai konduvaa- is it scary( Michael jackson)
  
  there was an album KUSHI:
  
  he copied the first 5 songs in "side A" of "dangerous" by Michael jackson and made it into an album... whats the fun? why should deva get credit??
  
  I can quote another 2991 instances... but its a watse... in my opinion except the "ghana" songs which are "cheri" anyway all deva songs are copies... if the source is not immediatley obvious... we need to search and it will bcome obvious...
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Thu Jun 7 22:41:12 EDT 2001
  
  Bharath:
  I agree with you 1000%. In my collage days, I used to maintain a list of deva's copied songs from old hindi and tamil songs. That list grew too much that I lost interest. I should have probably maintained a list of his originals. Difficult to find but, very easy to maintain. Just an one sided ruled papper is enough. Of course, you will have enough space to put your signature there.
  
  
• From: suresh kumar (@ 202.188.86.47) on: Fri Jun 8 10:29:53 EDT 2001
  
  hey guys, after reading your messages, i can't agree more with u all.I listen to Tamil songs more compared to English songs. That is why i was unable to see the similarities.But who never copies? I bet Illayaraja must have copied some songs during his time, (ex. Ram bam bam- from michael, madana , kama, rajan). Although Deva copies his music, he does change it to suit the Indian taste.
  It is easy to criticise, but it is not easy to score a good music, right?
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Sat Jun 9 10:10:35 EDT 2001
  
  every thing has got a limit. Let deva copy .no problem. But, he is making all the money with no effort from his side.
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ 202.62.83.34) on: Sun Jun 10 06:46:48 EDT 2001
  
  Common Friend.,
  I agree., Leave the money, what about the popularity he is getting to do this Ctrl-C Ctrl-V job., No genuine artist will tolerate this .. Kamalhasan oru padaththilee solvaar '...nukku een intha ulakam mariyaathaiyai thanga thattile vechchu kodukkuthu ?' - I feel like telling the same when somebody praises Deva/SAR for their copied stuff.
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on: Sun Jun 10 12:02:40 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS:
  >>>.. Kamalhasan oru padaththilee solvaar '...nukku een intha ulakam mariyaathaiyai thanga thattile vechchu kodukkuthu ?'
  
  I think it is from Mahanadhi. Am I right?
  
  
• From: NagaS` (@ 202.144.64.163) on: Mon Jun 11 03:24:14 EDT 2001
  
  Common Friend.,
  Yep., You are right !
  
  

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