Topic started by Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.183) on Mon Apr 30 13:43:09 EDT 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
http://www.themusicmagazine.com/cnnworldbeat.html
Guy, I don't have CNN in my house right now. If any body happened to see this interview, please give its summary in this thread.
Responses:
- From: kk (@ 198.4.92.5)
on: Mon Apr 30 14:06:50 EDT 2001
yesterday I saw a cliping from vandemataram followed by some one say WorldBeat by volvo.
There was also some japanese women on violin for few seconds. I think it was a ad for some future program. I saw this in CNN, in newyork.
- From: rohit (@ 172.140.225.12)
on: Tue May 1 18:23:55 EDT 2001
Riz Khan then boards a plane to come face to face with A R Rahman, the biggest success story in Indian commercial music. "The shy and reclusive Rahman is one of my favourite musicians," Khan said. "His fans say he gets better and better with every new song. His critics? Well, I've yet to find any serious critics."
direct him to newtfmpage.com-he will find them in abundance here :-)
- From: y (@ 202.9.149.167)
on: Wed May 2 00:14:20 EDT 2001
Rohit,he said serious critics not stupid ones.
- From: critical (@ 166.90.69.127)
on: Wed May 2 14:45:24 EDT 2001
you mean frustrated? yeah not stupid. there are no serious critics for arr kind of music. critics can't become serious and spend time on examining mediocrity. those who do have time are critics who become frustrated but they aren't stupid. but,maybe they are, if they are listening to that music and can't help but condemn it.
- From: r (@ 172.146.147.36)
on: Wed May 2 14:59:52 EDT 2001
testing
- From: raj (@ 172.146.147.36)
on: Wed May 2 15:04:52 EDT 2001
This is what is frustrating for us IR fans when a mediocre composer like ARR gets world recognition when a genius of the class of IR is ignored-kali kalamda sami!
will ARR be as popular if he had not been able to click with the north indian crowd , where currently mediocrity is ruling roost?
in blind men's world , one eyed man is the king.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Wed May 2 16:09:05 EDT 2001
raj,
Let me see if I can understand your sound logic.
North Indian crowd are people who like mediocre music.
ARR is popular among them.
So, the conlcusion is ARR is a mediocre composer.
(Did you happen to get 800/800 in GMAT?)
Conversely,
North Indian crowd are people who like mediocre music.
IR is not popular among them.
So,IR is a genius.
If this is a wrong intepretation which falls way below your intellectual statements pardon my stupidity.
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Wed May 2 16:34:45 EDT 2001
trend, when there are 1000000000+ fans of arr around there should not be any problem in ignoring
a hand ful if ir fans like Raj...chil down.
arr has achieved something, hats off to him. there it ends.
If ir can do something like this (atleast get out his symphony),my ears are wide open to enjoy it and my hands are there to clap for him too.
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Wed May 2 17:04:43 EDT 2001
comment,
You are right.I'm expecting IR to come up with songs he did before when his music appealed to everyone irrespective of type of audience.
Why do some people think his music can have universal appeal only if he degrades the quality of some aspect of his composing?
I have heard a lot of his music which has good quality(musically rich) and also had universal appeal.Is that too much to expect from him?I sincerely don't think so.
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Wed May 2 17:35:13 EDT 2001
trend, Raj was talking about kali kalam, poor music by arr, all these are unwanted here,
this is like kalayana vettla karumathi
some "tamil film music" artist (let him be the lowest level of a musican,) has achieved something which others did not or could not, just salute it, thats all I do. I dont want people to bring IR and repeat the pallavi he is the best arr is worest etc...somethings never change,just wait till arr gets a grammy (i bet he will) and we will have more fun. :)
(next posting by someone : grammy is given to original music only.:)
- From: xyz (@ 172.139.107.55)
on: Wed May 2 21:06:53 EDT 2001
wait till he goes IR way, THEN we will have fun...
- From: Doctor abc (@ 65.9.136.158)
on: Wed May 2 22:01:48 EDT 2001
it will be around 2040, let us hope our ears work to enjoy...and have fun.:)
- From: RIZ KHAN discovers A R Rahman for the World (@ 63.215.114.224)
on: Thu May 3 01:15:13 EDT 2001
Rahman and Riz Khan means arr should compose the signature tune for the world beat show. that way CNN's show ratings can hit new highs. Riz khan can get a career boost instead of leaving CNN. this will be best moment for music and world beat. let us pray for the best of the worst to happen.
- From: genius (@ 63.22.196.167)
on: Thu May 3 01:46:12 EDT 2001
'World Beat South Asian Music Special' airs Saturday May 5 at 0730 BST and 1930 BST.
what is BST???
- From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.20)
on: Thu May 3 02:11:13 EDT 2001
Next on line would be "Riz Khan's terrible taste in Indian music..." 'cos (what else?) he did not get IR to do a show in World Beat!
Yappa!
- From: :-) (@ 64.104.128.15)
on: Thu May 3 04:39:42 EDT 2001
comment,
indha symphony kadhayai vittu vEra edhAvadhu kadhai sollungaLEn pls!!...vEra edhuvum theriyalainA adhai mention paNNamalAvadhu irukkalAm...
it's as puLichu pOna kadhai as raja's oorugAi & appalam story :-)
- From: comment (@ 65.9.136.158)
on: Thu May 3 07:53:04 EDT 2001
:-), "mediocre composer like ARR ",
how many times you have told this ? i am sure your score will beat mine. When you have the right to sing same pazaya pallavi - i also can :)
- From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.188)
on: Thu May 3 09:26:45 EDT 2001
raj:
This is what is frustrating for us IR fans
Why don't you plainly say that its your vayiththerichchal
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Thu May 3 09:53:27 EDT 2001
"indha symphony kadhayai vittu vEra edhAvadhu kadhai sollungaLEn pls!!..."
ippadi adikkadi sollradha kettaavadhu yaaravadhu symphony release seyya maatangalaa?ellam oru nappaasathaan!!mmm....
- From: :-) (@ 64.104.128.15)
on: Thu May 3 10:00:49 EDT 2001
>>mediocre composer like ARR<<
Did 'I' ever say that ??
en identity kooda ungaLukku theriyumA nu enakku theriyalai.
pls show me my posting saying the above line... neither do i represent all the raja fans nor do u represent all the arr fans...why do u
count all raja fans as " :-) " ???
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Thu May 3 11:43:37 EDT 2001
:-) annaaaa.... ennai maniiichu vedungal... :)
that was a comman statement...Poruma...
poddhu nanba -- yes it sounds like that, :)
- From: xyz (@ 64.12.105.44)
on: Thu May 3 12:54:50 EDT 2001
I seemed to have stirred a hornet's nest going by all your knee jerk response-2040 is it?
dont worry ,even greats like viavldi , beethoven and mozart were tops only for 15 -20 years.
i reiterate, your ARR is a product of gimmicky marketing, satellite TV and mediocre tune making capablities all bundled cleverly .call him a maestro?. my word !the greats must be really turning in their graves!
- From: Trend (@ 216.68.113.227)
on: Thu May 3 13:02:04 EDT 2001
xyz,
"the greats must be really turning in their graves!"
Right!They are turning astounded by his extraordinary musical abilities which is second to none.
- From: abc (@ 206.112.114.81)
on: Thu May 3 13:17:09 EDT 2001
xyz, you mistook it, it is actually for the never released symphony but earned the name and fame for it more than them.
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.69)
on: Thu May 3 16:51:49 EDT 2001
Well here we go...Round X of IR fans vs ARR fans !
Makes life more interesting does it ?
- From: comment (@ 12.5.10.153)
on: Thu May 3 17:03:03 EDT 2001
Cosmician...round 10 ?
....make it round "n"
this will go on and on and on.....
:)
- From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201)
on: Thu May 3 19:28:38 EDT 2001
Guys, the 'fans' of rahmanonline.com is the place for rahman fans... but interestingly, they appear to be blindly following rahman for some reason. I understand that is why they are called fans in the first place!! So if yor are a rahman fan, please visit that site - you will be more than pleased.
Well, personally I found it sucked big time, not because I love/hate rahman, but because people praising Rahman have a little idea of anything else other than Rahmans music. They speak of Rahman "having touched their heart", "he is god", "emotionally stimulating"...and on the extreme side, a blatant remark on "Harris copied ARR"...absurdity to the core. I hope Rahman fans find peace there.
- From: comment (@ 65.9.136.158)
on: Thu May 3 19:40:44 EDT 2001
swamiji,
seriously you are wasting you talent and time...
first of all do you own this site ?
you are inviting trouble for the 'unoffical site of raja', how long it will take for an arr fan to ask you to go there. secondly if you find arr online sucked, you should email them not post in in any thread in newtfmpage.com. you many start a new thread saying site of arr's website sucks, you will get more contributions. Personally I feel korg.com or rolandus.com sucks big time , can i come and scream here, I dont think so.
They speak of Rahman "having touched their heart", "he is god", "emotionally stimulating"...and on the extreme side........
... but interestingly, they appear to be blindly following rahman for some reason
-- adada adada....i just need to replace the composer with another one......we have seen or heard more devotional hymns sung here.
Dont waste your time and advices, if possible see arrs interview this weekend or when ever it is shown or if you are angry with cnn write to them telling arr is total waste, they know less then you...or sell your tv...who cares.
- From: a (@ 152.163.201.191)
on: Thu May 3 21:43:42 EDT 2001
sabash.ha ha ...sariyana potti..!!
- From: haha (@ 205.188.192.176)
on: Thu May 3 23:15:22 EDT 2001
haha
- From: xyz (@ 205.188.192.176)
on: Thu May 3 23:22:37 EDT 2001
Trend, what do u mean-second to none?.that he is better than all of them?hmmmm....that is what this satement implies.
there is a photo in Rahmanonline on the top.this photo has been created by merging a beethoven portrait with ARR's photo-comment, dont u think this is carrying things a bit too far?compare ARR with likes of Anu malik or bappi lahiri.and be happy.I consider this photo to be one of the best jokes.rahman, i hasten to add , is quite photogenic.one of thge other photos in that site he looks quite pleasant.you donyt need to do all this morphing/merging of photos.next what will u have?a merging of his photo with MJ?
- From: arr to buy out world beat (@ 166.90.65.150)
on: Fri May 4 00:40:27 EDT 2001
may 5 will be the beginning of a new CNN world beat. it seems arr will be on the show every week. great moment for music and CNN.
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