Topic started by Ramki (@ cs511.cs.wmich.edu) on Tue Nov 18 17:52:40 EST 1997.
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- From: Ramki (@ cs511.cs.wmich.edu)
on: Tue Nov 18 18:11:22 EST 1997
Well many must be surprised to see this thread.Well To my opinion Deva has given his share of melodies to TFM world.
Im starting the thread with a long list.Though i dont expect much contributions i will be happy if atleast couple of unbiased people can contribute to this thread
1)aarangam thaanuranga aarukadal neeruranga-Manasuketha maharasa-SPB,SJ
2)othai adi padhaiyile-aatha un kovilie-SPB,JIkki
3)chinnanjiru poove unnai thodum podhe-AAtha un kovilile-Mano,SJ
4)en ooru madhurai pakkam-vaasalil oru vennilla-KJY
5)kanneer karisal mannu poove-vaigasi porandhachu-KJY
6)un punnagai podhumadi - pass mark - SPB,Chitra
7)oh swarnamuki varuven sonnapadi - Karuppu vellai-SPB,Chitra
8)kakki chiraginile nandhalala-Purusha Latchinam-SPB,Chitra
9)engae then thuli - thaamarai - Mano,Sunandha
10)therkku theru machanukku - therkku theru machan-SPB,Sj
11)Oh raagini neelambari-Marumagan-SPB,SJ
12)Chinnavarae chinnavarae-Karuppu nila-SPB,Sj
13)Karuppu nila nee dhan-en aasai machaan-Chitra
14)Oho Madhubala-Madhubala-SPB
15)Vetri nichayam idhu vedha sathyam-Annamalai-KJY
16)oru pen pura-Annamalai-KJY
17)pulveli pulveli-aasai-Chitra,Unnik
18)Meenamma-Aasai-Unnik,Anuradha Sreeram
19)en manadhai kollai adithavalae-kalloori vaasal-Hariharan,AnuSreeram
20)Tajmahale nee thaavi thaavi-periyathambi-Hari,Anu
21)malarodu nilavukku enne kobam-Chitra,Unnik-my dear son Marudhu
22)thendral vandhu thendral vandhu - Manasu-Unnik,Sheela
23)nalam nalamariya aaval-Kaadhal kottai-Anu,SPB
24)kaalamellam kaadhal vazhga-KK-Chitra,Unnik
25)Kavalaipadadhae sagodhara-KK-Deva
26)Indhu maha samudhiramae-Mannava-Hari,chitra,Unnik
27)aathoram thoppukkule-panchalankurichi-Swarna
28)un udhattoram sigappakanda-Panchalankurichi-Hari,Anu
29)kaadhala kaadhala-Avvaishanmugi-Hari,Sujatha
30)Poongatre poongatre-Bharathi Kannamma-KJY
31)Manam virumbudhey-Nerukkuner-Harini,Unnik
32)porul thedum boomiyil-Kalki-Chitra
33)ezhudhugiren oru kadidham-Kalki-Chitra,Anu
34)aasai kepaakazhikku aasai-tamilselvan-Chitra,Unnik
35)charumathi nee en sondhamadi-saadhisanam-Unnik
36)thavira bharani aaru-saamundi-SPB,Sj
37)podhum edutha janmamae-pullaikuttikaran-UMa
38)nagumo eh sugamo-Arunachalam-Chitra,KJY
39)Kalyaanam katcheri-Avvai shanmugi-SPB
40)sariya idhu sariya-kalki-Chitra
- From: Kanchana (@ ww-td63.proxy.aol.com)
on: Tue Nov 18 18:22:42 EST 1997
Ramki:
How about the songs from Gokulathil Seedhai?
Gokulathu kanna kanna song is a memorable one.
I forget the lyrics to the "lullaby" song the heroine sings to the hero, but it is pleasant to hear.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Tue Nov 18 20:08:23 EST 1997
> i will be happy if atleast couple of unbiased > people can contribute to this thread
ennayaa.. yaarayo kuttara maathri irukke? : )
Some more to add to Ramki's list:
senguruvi senguruvi kaaramadai senguruvi - Thirumoorthy (Pl don't compare it with "sembaruthy
sembaruthy".)
nilladi nilladi - kaalamellaam kaathiruppen
muthan muthalil paarthen - Aahaa
ithayam ithayam inaigirathe - Vidukathai
btw, why did you list "kavalaipadaathe sagotharaa"
in this list, Ramki??
- From: Ramki (@ pm315-30.dialip.mich.net)
on: Wed Nov 19 00:03:34 EST 1997
Rajaram 'kavalaipadadhe'is a nice song(good lyrics and sung naturally-autokkaran padarre madhiriye irundhadhu)
few more to the list
vennilavae vennilavae-kaalamellam kaadhal vazhga-swarna,mano
nilavae vaa vaa - gokulathil seethai-Chitra
konja naal poru thalaiva-aasai-Hariharan
oru mani adithaal-kaalamellam kaadhal vazhga-Hari
then mozhi raadhai - Mahaan - Chitra
There was a beautiful piece in 'Kaalamellam kathiruppen'-sung by Chitra and SPB. Yaarukkavadhu theriyuma??
- From: Ravi (@ greed.cs.umass.edu)
on: Wed Nov 19 00:43:55 EST 1997
You left out solayamma songs: koovura kuyilu, thaamirabarani aaru, and there was one more.
Also chinna ponnu thaan vekka paduthu from vaikasi poranthaachchu, thenna mara thOppukkuLLE kuyilE - thekkutheru machchaan.
- From: Ramki (@ pm315-30.dialip.mich.net)
on: Wed Nov 19 00:54:07 EST 1997
Ravi i have included the 'thavirabarani'song
from solaiyamma but padathoda peiyarai thappa ezhudhitten(i have written it as samundi)
One more song
thoodhu po sellakizhiye-thoodhu po sellakizhiye-SJanaki(in one of her interviews Janaki had mentioned that this is her fav song in Devas music)
- From: shankar (@ webgate7.mot.com)
on: Wed Nov 19 01:12:52 EST 1997
ramki,
I feel kavalai padade sahodara ,kalyaanam kacheri and vtri nichayam dont come under melodies .Probably they r good songs.
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Nov 19 02:38:36 EST 1997
Shankar has a good point there.
The first time I "discovered" Deva was through this song:
Raasithaan kairaasi thaan unmugamey raasithaan
I thought it sounded very Ilayaraaja-ish and was surprised that it was MD'ed by Deva. Off course, I was impressed by all the songs in Aasai. Hey - even Nerukku Ner songs are highly listenable. :-))
Another of my current favourite is Kaalai veleiyil Krishna by Chitra in Mahaan.
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Wed Nov 19 04:54:05 EST 1997
Ramki
I have already listed the "nilladi nilladi" song.
Is that what you are referring to?
"kavalaipadaathe" patri naan solrathukku munnaale
mathavanga badhil solliduvaanga polirukku..
kavalaippadaathe Ramki!
- From: Sathya (@ ppp-6.ts-2.hp.idt.net)
on: Wed Nov 19 08:57:14 EST 1997
"priya priya en priya"
Sarathkumar movie. love India?
"ithE pOla enakku oru paattu pOdaNum" enRu Manirathnam paarattiya paadal athu.
songs in Naattaamai. SUN TV Philips super ten listil pala maathangal No1 paadal
kottaip paakkum kozhunthu veththalaiyum
- From: Kumarvenkat (@ hk20.superlink.net)
on: Wed Nov 19 09:41:09 EST 1997
Sathya,
Naattaamai is by Sirpi, not Deva!
Is 'priya priya oh priya' from Aranmanaik Kaavalan?
1) 'Semmeenae semmeenae' (movie?). Is it by deva or sirpi?
2) 'meenammaa adhikaalaiyilum' in Aasai (by any means, the best song!!)
3) 'enakkenap pirandhava' in Kizhakkukkarai.
4) What was that song from Vaigaasi Porandhaachchu?
- From: Pagalavan (@ batboy.cisco.com)
on: Wed Nov 19 09:52:53 EST 1997
Kumar
priya priya..en.. is from kattabomman
Another good melody from Deva:
nilavukkuth thaalaattu.. from puthu manithan
- From: easwaran hariharan (@ algw1.lucent.com)
on: Wed Nov 19 12:29:22 EST 1997
My favorite song - Vandalappa vandalappa
from seethanam. Couple of songs in
parivattam are good.
e.hari
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Wed Nov 19 12:57:02 EST 1997
Have you guys heard this song from "Abhimanyu" with with "Nakkal" lyrics by Vairamuthu and aptly sung by SPB
Halwa, Vaayil Halwa, Ilichavaayil Halwa!
Theirthal Vanthuvittaal Thedivarum Halwa!
Vaakaalar Anaivarukkum Vaakkuruthi Halwa!
Ooooaramba, Ooooaramba, Oaramba, Ooooramba!
I will get the complete lyrics tomorrow.
Also, in the same movie there is a melodious song sung by Uma Ramanan( I forget it now - will get it later )
How about a couple of songs from "Once More"?
1. Poovey Poovey, Pennpoovey, Enn Poojaikku Varavendum - by Surendar
2. Unnil Ennil Ullathu Kaathal - MV, et al
3. Malargaley Ungalai Naan Kaathalikkirein - Vijay
These are very good songs.
- From: Arun (@ internet1.ford.com)
on: Wed Nov 19 13:17:20 EST 1997
Ramki:
I have really enjoyed a lot of songs that you have listed.
Is Thamira bharani aaru by Deva? Can you confirm this and the movie? (I have this in a cassette, and I didn't know the movie or MD, I assumed it was IR. I want the CD!)
Is this the same song that goes:
"Thamira bharani aaru.. idhu
tharaiyil nadakkum theru.
Vaasam veesum poovu..
vaadaik kaathu novu.." ?
Wow, what a beautiful song!
- Arun.
- From: Ramki (@ pm316-03.dialip.mich.net)
on: Wed Nov 19 14:05:04 EST 1997
Arun 'thamirabarani aaru'is From 'Solaiamma'and Deva is the MD
Kumarvenkat 'Semmeenne semmeene'is from 'sevvandhi'and Ilaiyaraja is the MD
Rajaram yes i was referring to nilladi nilladi piece from KK
Few more of my favs
1)ku ku koo kuyil pattu ketkudha-Vaimaiye vellum-Chitra ,Krishnaraj
2)aadadhada aadadhada manidha-sendhoorapandi-Deva
3)oru kadidham ezhudhinen-Deva-SPB,Vijay/Chitra
4)december maadha panipoove-Surendar,Sheela-Maanava thalaivan??
- From: shankar (@ webgate6.mot.com)
on: Thu Nov 20 04:00:56 EST 1997
aadadada aadadada is a HORROR song(just kidding-no offense meant).I think it comes under soha songs.
december mAda ...is from maanbumigu maanavan
- From: Gokul (@ p1.echostar.com)
on: Sun Nov 23 20:25:47 EST 1997
What?!
Melodies Of Deva...
Surely you must be meaning Melodies of IR and
numerous others...!
- From: Kitcha (@ dhcp232-181.eel.ufl.edu)
on: Mon Nov 24 12:14:54 EST 1997
Well ...Ramki has requested for un-biased opinions. So I'll do just that..
:-)
1. There is one song in "Vaanmathi".....the intro sounds similar to the "Lion King " piece but the rest of the song is nice to hear!
2. The one song in "Nesam" ..a solo picturised on Maheswari is a good one.
3. Azhagu Azhagu from "Batcha"
4. The number "Yen manadhai kollai adithavalle.." from "Kaloori Vaasal" is a nice song!!
- From: Ramki (@ sparky.kohrman.wmich.edu)
on: Mon Nov 24 13:21:43 EST 1997
Gokul its widely known that Deva doesnt give original numbers.But i have a question.For the songs we have listed here can u say the source from which Deva has copied???Im just curious. Since a guy copies doesnt mean he copies always.
Kitcha: There are 2 good songs in Vanmathi
'oru pattu thaamarai mutham ketkudhu oiyaa'(unnikrishnan and Anuradha)
'vaigaraiyil vandhadhenne vanmadhi kai valaiyal osaiyudim thenmozhi'(SPB and Chitra)
The song from Nesam is 'oh Ranganatha shree Ranganatha"Its a beautiful piece with wonderful orchestration(SPB and chitra)
- From: Amar (@ worf.qntm.com)
on: Mon Nov 24 14:54:14 EST 1997
I heard these nice songs of Deva and like these a lot:
1. My Name is Mr.Sakthi - SPB - Sivasakthi
This is a nice and funny song and great fun lyrics.
2. Aasai, Keppakkalikkaasai - CH & ??? - Tamilselvan
Another beautiful song.
3. Thoduvaanamaai Unaippaarkkirein - CH - Abhimanyu
A nice song with great orchestration.
4. Thaai Unakku Thaainaadada - Uma Ramanan - Abhimanyu
A wonderful lyrics with great melody
More later,
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Tue Nov 25 04:44:41 EST 1997
Who scored the music for Alps malai kaatru vanthu yennai thottathu? Beautiful piece of music. Complementary combination of singers too.
- From: aruLarasan (@ bh33402.umsl.edu)
on: Tue Nov 25 10:18:40 EST 1997
Nov,
I think it was sirpi. !!!!
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Tue Nov 25 20:00:01 EST 1997
aruLarasan - Another good new song, Indu maha samutharathil by Unnikrishnana & Chitra from Mahaan is definitely by Deva!
- From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.135.224)
on: Tue Nov 25 20:07:29 EST 1997
Yes, thedinen vanthathu is by Sirpi.
NOV, "indhumaha" is from Mannavaa and is
already listed by Ramki.
"yaaro azhaithathu pola"(Sishya) paattu list panniyaachaa?
- From: Ramki (@ sparky.kohrman.wmich.edu)
on: Tue Nov 25 20:14:45 EST 1997
Rajaram innum pannalai.
Some more songs:
mannavanae mannavanae maalaiyitta chinnavanae-kottai vaasal-SPB,Chitra
sevvandhiye nillu nillu seidhu onnu sollu sollu-???-Mano,Sunandha
metti metti velli metti velli metti potta kutti-pullaikuttikaran-SJ,Arunmozhi
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Tue Nov 25 22:21:24 EST 1997
Ramki - Aiyo kadavulley!! Is Arunmozhi singing for other MD's (besides IR) as well? I can't stand his voice ....... he is the present day, male version of LRE :-))
- From: shankar (@ webgate2.mot.com)
on: Wed Nov 26 02:44:56 EST 1997
NOV sir,
Please,please don't call A.Mozhi the male
version of LRE.There r lot of people competing for that coveted title!!!It's a TFM known fact that AM's voice is best suited for paarthiban.AM is the main flutist for IR(real name-napoleon).In one of his interviews in SUN TV ,AM quoted parthiban saying that his grandma praised paarthiban for a song in pullakuttikaaran (thinking that he himself sang it).
he's given some good numbers like naanenbadhu nee allavo (soorasamharam),aathula annakkili(veera -rajnikanth praised AM for that song and said "innum konjam thodarnthirukkalame" ,to IR),Arumbum thalire (chandralekha),varaadhu vandha naayagan(another paarthiban movie *ing kushboo)and that stammering song from pullakuttikaran which goes like "th..th..th..tholile".
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Nov 26 20:20:30 EST 1997
Shankar - sorry if I have hurt your feelings. Yennamo theiriyillei, I just can't seem to stand his voice.The songs you mentioned, especially from Soora Samharam, are nice - but then again LRE also has given some nice numbers (ithu maalai neiraththu mayakkam immediately comes to mind). I remember once when Chandrasekar started a thread saying: LRE as a versatile singer!!!! I accept that there will be many who like singers like AM and LRE and I respect your opinions. Put it this way - AM & LRE are generally not accepted as good singers (as opposed to SP Bala and P Suseela - who generally are accepted as good singers). Something tells me that Ilayaraajavukku Arun Mozhi raasiyillei.......
No back to Deva's melodies(!)
- From: NOV (@ 202.184.134.10)
on: Wed Nov 26 20:22:08 EST 1997
Please read my last sentence as
Now, back to Deva's melodies(!)
- From: rameshb (@ interlock.itthartford.com)
on: Fri Apr 23 13:59:19 EDT 1999
Some of the melodies given by deva are being grossly overlooked under the pretext of suspecion of the originality of the tune( I am not debating this!). There are some real efficacious melodies given by him like the following
1. pORALE pORALE - unnai thEdi
2. nALai kAlai - unnai thEdi
3. chinna chinna kuyilE - kannethirE thOndrinAL
4. kaNavE kaliyAthE - kannethirE thOndrinAL
5. kObama enmEl kObama - unnudan
Surprisingly most of these melodies have been rendered by hariharan (along with others) , who often loses his sruti at high pitches(IMO). In the song 'naalai kaalai nERil varuvALa' , which is a good melody , his conspicuous struggle at high pitch is noticeable as he screams 'thaatchaayani.....'. He almost sounds like deva in couple of places! This is because (i think) , he is trying to present a higher note rendition with some tweaking as he does in low pitched brigaas and fails in his endeavour. He should stick to singing it flat with no variation there by not spoiling the song. The song otherwise is a nice one with flute and guitar interludes. 'pORALE pORALE' is another good melody where hariharan has rendered it without trying to perform any vocal acrobatics. The interluding percussion beat (bongos ?) having a resounding effect is amazing and is a novel technique used in folk songs. "Chinna chinna kuyilE" is another excellent melody with anu's humming in the backround and one can see the difference again here where hariharan has controlled his voice by not going overboard and spoiling the song. The second interlude with mridhangam percussions has shobana's rendering which starts like 'enniyathun..' with excellent gamaka presentation where she ends as 'kaRpanaiyE.....'. 'kaNavE kalaiyAthE' is another fabulous melody based on desh raga. Unnikrishnan is a good choice for this song as he renders the higher note lines 'chinna thiruvAi malarvAyA..' fluently. He doesn't struggle like hariharan at high pitch. The ghatam is adroitly used in this song and the interluding konnakkol by chita 'thAm thakita thOm thaka thimi' is amazing .
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