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Raaja's choice of Mano

Topic started by mfm (@ 203.120.115.1) on Fri May 8 23:43:08 EDT 1998.
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I think Raaja did not do justice to some wonderful composings by using Mano. Especially those that Mano sang in calf's voice with the sweet renderings of SJ. Two songs that I feel Mano did well is the Nee Oru Kaadhal from Nayagan and another solo in the film that features "Poove semboove" by KJ. I feel IR has committed sin by getting Mano to sing all the songs in Idayathai Thirudadhe and also in the film directed by JayaChitra starring with Raguman. I think you folks will come up with lot of songs that IR wasted with Mano. As a humble devotee of Raja, I really hate him in this aspect.

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Responses:

• From: Viswa (@ webgate5.mot.com) on: Sat May 9 02:58:04 EDT 1998
  
  mfm :
  I agree with you on this, for I too have felt that there have been many songs that have sounded a little jarring because of Mano's voice. Some songs that have irritated me because of this are :
  
  * Asai kiLiyE (Theertha karayinilE)
  * KAdhal kiLiyE (I think the movie is PAttukku nAn adimai)
  * Meenamma meenamma (RAjAdhi rAjA)
  * ThEnmozhi (Solla thudikkidhu manasu - you have mentioned this above)
  * PAdAmal pArtha nenjam (Poonthotta kAvalkaran)
  * VandhAL vandhAL rAjakumAri (Oru oorla oru rAjakumAri),
  plus many more ...
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 74.minneapolis-06.mn.dial-access.att.net) on: Sat May 9 18:12:59 EDT 1998
  
  Hi Guys,
  Raja introduced mano when he had ego problems with SPB and flooded him with songs. Raja's aim was to over throw Spb...But he failed ....
  
  
  Srikanth
  
  
• From: Viswa (@ webgate7.mot.com) on: Mon May 11 01:45:20 EDT 1998
  
  Srikanth, MFM,
  Interestingly, IR used Mano and SPB together in the song "Hey Raja" from the film "Jallikattu". SPB sang for Sivaji, while Mano sang for Sathyaraj. The contrast in their voices was so prominent in this song, that I could'nt help wondering how Mano could still be considered a clone of SPB after this !
  Mano was also given the lion's share of the songs in the Rajini film "Rajadhi Raja" that was IR's own production. Perhaps, IR felt that Mano's pronunciation of Tamil suited Rajini's Tamil diction :) However, after this film, it was SPB in most of the cases, who sang for Rajini.
  
  
• From: Mano (@ eislib2.uwaterloo.ca) on: Mon May 11 16:16:01 EDT 1998
  
  Mano was doing well until he sang for Sirpi.
  I can provide you many songs such as:
  singara Penoruthi in Oruvar Vazhum Aalayam
  Many songs in Sembaruthi
  Mounamen Mounamen in En Jeevan Paaduthu
  Siru Kootula in Paandi Nattu Thankam.
  I believe that Mano has done very decent job with Raja, but I should agree that he cannot sing in high pitch. But if you look at his recent works, especially after 'alakiya laila' from ullathai Allitha, he is repeting the same thing over and over again.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue May 12 19:27:35 EDT 1998
  
  Mano is just a disposable track singer who hit it big because of IR and SPB's temporary falling out. Even the best Mano song would easily sound better if SPB, Hariharan, or Unni had sung instead.
  
  
• From: Mano (@ eislib2.uwaterloo.ca) on: Tue May 12 20:11:53 EDT 1998
  
  I don't agree with you. Take the song singaara pen oruthi in Oruvar vazhum aalayam. I think that the mano is best in that song. Everyone has their unique style of singing, spb, hariharan etc. Even M.Vasudevan has his own unique style of singing. Take for example, oru thanka rathathil in 'Tharma Yudham', if Hariharan sing that song, it wouldn't be as great as the old one.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Tue May 12 21:09:37 EDT 1998
  
  I agree that Hariharan can't substitute M.Vasudevan, because the latter has a very unique singing style. But I wasn't discussing M.Vasudevan. Mano, your namesake doesn't have a unique stamp that he can leave in a song and is therefore easily replaced by another. I do think Singara Pen Oruthi, a decent song, would sound better if a better singer sang it. There's no way to debate taste, so if you like him, I'm happy for you.
  
  
• From: mfm (@ 203.120.115.1) on: Wed May 13 01:42:35 EDT 1998
  
  O! Janani and Vandumo(or Vazhlumo) Oviviyam from the film Pudhiya Raagam is a total horrible rendering by Mano. Especially the 2nd one with SJ is totally a wrong choice of Mano with SJ. I always wonder if IR had problems with SPB why should he resort for Mano. Instead, Jayachandran is a good friend of IR and he should have been used in place of Mano. Relatively, ArunMozhi is better than him. His songs in Thalattu Padavu and 'Muthama Muthu Muthu Muthalama' from Thandhuvitten Ennai is quite OK.
  
  Another good song Mano spoiled is from Velaikkaran - Va Va Va Kanna Va. Some of the songs Mano rendered for Rajini films was quite OK like "Malayala Karaiyoram" from Rajadhi Raja.
  
  
• From: JAX (@ chaos.egr.uh.edu) on: Thu May 14 18:46:22 EDT 1998
  
  IMO, Mano has improved considerably over the years. In terms of versatility, among the current singers, I think he is second only to SPB. His biggest drawback is his lack of originality....He started out as a SPB wannabe and I think he succeeded to a great extent (with the help of IR?), in that many people cannot distinguish between him and SPB...I have seen (at least on the net)his songs listed as SPB's !
  
  He does have good songs --
  
  Nadodi Thendral - sandhana marbile, maniye manikkuyile (the difference between IR and Mano is so clear in this)
  
  chinna thambi
  
  Rajadhi Raja
  
  Idhayathai thirudathe
  
  recent ones - kondattam -> unnoduthan - the fast-paced version
  
  
  + many more !!
  
  
• From: JAX (@ chaos.egr.uh.edu) on: Thu May 14 18:47:17 EDT 1998
  
  IMO, Mano has improved considerably over the years. In terms of versatility, among the current singers, I think he is second only to SPB. His biggest drawback is his lack of originality....He started out as a SPB wannabe and I think he succeeded to a great extent (with the help of IR?), in that many people cannot distinguish between him and SPB...I have seen (at least on the net)his songs listed as SPB's !
  
  He does have good songs --
  
  Nadodi Thendral - sandhana marbile, maniye manikkuyile (the difference between IR and Mano is so clear in this)
  
  chinna thambi
  
  Rajadhi Raja
  
  Idhayathai thirudathe
  
  recent ones -
  kondattam - unnoduthan - the fast-paced version
  Ninaithen Vandhai - ennavale ennavale
  
  + many more !!
  
  
• From: badri raghavan (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Thu May 21 05:38:56 EDT 1998
  
  just like Malaysia Vasudevan came up because of IT's feud with TMS, Mano's elevation was on account of spb falling out with ir. both could not sustain (i am not referring to the number of songs they sung: it is about the mark they left behind) because they did not have the mettle of those they were trying to replace. IR could have suceeded in eliminating tms but he could never bring anybody of his caliber. fortunately he was unable to shake off spb.
  
  ir gave many songs to mano in that transition period and after that too and thanks to the momentum, mano became a busy singer. to think that mano failed is because of expecting spb out of him which is unfair although he tried to his full extent. mano's ucharippu, his inability to retain the texture at high pitch and his basic deficiency of lack of emotion hampered his growth.
  
  Raja cannot be blamed for not giving enough opportunities but for giving too many!
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.28.252) on: Thu May 21 14:06:38 EDT 1998
  
  mano as singer was spoilt first by ARR with the muqabla song in kaathalan and then the trend followed with sirpi giving him some atrocious crappy songs like 'azhagiya laila' which has forced mano to change his voice forever and he continues to sing songs in false voice.
  
  till today i do not understand how people could stand 'ullathai allitha'songs which in my opinion is nothing but crap.the melody was zilch.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Thu May 21 20:26:33 EDT 1998
  
  Vijay,
  Melody or classical ragam base are not the only governing principles in a pop song. The TFM landscape has been blown wide open in the last few years and is one of the best opportunities that TFM has had to reinvent itself. By reinventing itself TFM goes after unchartered territory. Not every new thing is going to be pleasant but I'm happy for the pleasant inroads made by Bhangra, Rap, and Gana in TFM. It's like your favorite restaurant adding a few foreign dishes. You don't have to like it but why defile others for their enthusiasm for new experiences.
  
  
• From: KR (@ 208.28.2.2) on: Fri May 22 07:24:27 EDT 1998
  
  what do u guys think about the song "Varayo" from Athma. I am not a mano fan but I thought he was great in this song.
  
  
• From: Venkat (@ lpcat102.oardc.ohio-state.edu) on: Fri Sep 18 14:47:52 EDT 1998
  
  Mano is a good singer and one shouldn't even in their wildest dreams compare him to the great SPB. Whether Mano is next to SPB or equvivalent to Hariharan is best left to audience discretion and liking. In Telugu, a lot of songs currently sung by Mano are mistakenly thought as SPB songs. Do that mean he is as good as SPB? No. Similarly, the songs sung by many singers these days don't need lot of hardwork and talent.
  
  
• From: SR Kaushik (@ nova2.cs.wisc.edu) on: Fri Sep 18 16:19:22 EDT 1998
  
  I agree that Mano has spoilt many good songs incl. "Yenthan Vazhkayil" from Chinna kanamma, "Priya priyathama" from Killer(Telugu), etc.
  
  I am surprised that Mano came up because of IR's fight with SPB as in Telugu, SPB always dominated the scene, Mano got atmost 1-2 songs.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ sf-dnpqc-030.compuserve.net) on: Fri Sep 18 17:49:43 EDT 1998
  
  Mano was a track singer for a very long time. His only occupation at that time was to be seen around in the studios befriending MDs and indulging in a bit of PR ( my friend told me this as he himself has worked as a track singer in some Telugu songs of SPB). Interestingly enough, all his hits with IR like 'neeyoru kaathal sangeetham', 'nila kaayum neram saranam' (which I thought were well sung by Mano) will cease to impress once you hear the telugu version of all these songs rendered by SPB (God! how beautifully he decorates a tune) . The difference in quality is amply demonstrated. Mano's voice itself leaves a lot to be desired and IMO is not a sensitive enough artiste.
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.23.148) on: Sun Sep 20 20:11:31 EDT 1998
  
  udhaya,
  sorry for thge late response but i personally disliked mano shouting in flase voice for such type of songs.most of these songs are copies of pop songs or the beats used are similiar to some english songs.
  
  alli alli anarkali from arunachalam is a copy of khaled's didi.
  
  adi anarkali from ullathai allitha is also a copy.
  
  whereas 'all the time' from nadodi thendra is
  a pleasent melodious and a beautiful western type of song in tamil. i still regret that IR had to compose such songs for such a dabba film.
  
  
• From: Srinivas (@ scproxy1.sc.intel.com) on: Tue Sep 22 15:57:34 EDT 1998
  
  Kaushik,
  I don't agree that "Priya Priyathama" was spoilt by Mano. In fact, Mano was the ideal choice for it. The song was composed in S.rajeshwara Rao's style and the primary purpose was to evoke nostalgia. Somehow, Mano's voice adds the nostalgia element to it (proably becos of resemblance to some old singers). SPB would have sung it with his usual gusto and that would have spoiled the nostalgic effect.
  
  Srinivas
  
  

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