Topic started by Tamilian (@ 161.142.100.86) on Wed Jul 10 00:16:33 EDT 2002.
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What makes AR Rahman really special? Why does his music cause so much excitement and flurry?
What is the difference that AR Rahman offers that no one else offers.
Responses:
- From: Tamilian (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Wed Jul 10 00:20:48 EDT 2002
From his first movie Roja, ARR has caused a HUGE impact on listeners of popular Tamil songs.
Since then each of his movie and songs are closely inspected, loved, tasted and exalted.
Let us take his maiden song, Chinna chinna aasai. What sets this song apart from the 100s of songs of this genre?
Is it the new voice? Is is the impeccable music arrangement? Is it the haunting melody? Or is it just simply oozing of class?
- From: Dream On (@ 12.84.112.210)
on: Wed Jul 10 01:01:01 EDT 2002
Bombay Dreams ;--)
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Jul 10 01:29:51 EDT 2002
A R Rahman is IMO simply a fabulous MD. There can be no two ways about this. His prolificity, music sense, style of orchestration and dedication are spellbinding. He has ably and competently bridged the N-S gap. It is therefore no coincidence that he has acquired the opportunity to work with not only veteran singers like PS,KJY,AB,LM,SJ,SPB but with the top grade classical musicians in the country. He is today India's best MD - IMO. He has covered masterfully a large number of genres of film and non-film music - be it the patriotic (as in Vande Mataram etc), the semiclassical, the folk music from various parts of India - Gujarat and Punjab to the South, heart-rending melodies, fast paced and peppy numbers, tunes with an Arabic,Spanish influence......he has done them all. He is proof of the fact that quality needn't be bolstered by mere quantity. From Shyam Benegal to Mani Ratnam, he has pleased them all with his songs and BGM. And not to mention that he is today India's most respected MD (amongst the new generation MDs of course). As also the fact that he is a figure of international acclaim and repute, the mere beginning of which is his collaboration with Andrew Lloyd Weber etc.
Some of my favourites of ARR are his scores in Lagaan, Roja (and I prefer the Tamil ones), his album with Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan, Thakshak, and above all the haunting and seductive song in Rangeela - "hai raama yeh kya hua". It has distinct traces of the Hindustani Raaga Puriya and a brilliant set of preludes/interludes further adorned by a wonderful rendition by Swarnalatha.
Above all he seems to be a perfectly down to earth and humble human being. I am yet to hear any brags and boasts and silly cliches from him.
He has so far been a creative/innovative/multi-faceted composer...but whether he should be put into the ranks of the veteran composers - that time will tell. (I have a gut feeling that the answer will be yes).
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.81.88)
on: Wed Jul 10 01:59:22 EDT 2002
"From Shyam Benegal to Mani Ratnam, he has pleased them all with his songs and BGM."
BGM?? I dont really agree with that, but all other points are a bit agreeable.
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.180.179)
on: Wed Jul 10 02:48:39 EDT 2002
Vj,
pal u dont sound to belong to this thread come visit my IR thread next door...
heHEHEHE!
- From: Tamilian (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Wed Jul 10 02:52:18 EDT 2002
AVR, that was a fantastic write-up. Hope to hear more of your fascination for ARR’s music on a song-to-song
basis.
Vj, bgm is a matter of perception. You may have been fed all your life on your mother’s dosai
and upon eating at Saravan Bhavan you may think that Saravan Bhavan’s dosai is not to the
standard of how a dosai should be, but that does not take away the fact that Saravan Bhavan
serves the best dosai in the world. I hope you understand what I mean.
- From: Kum_LADEN (@ 24.100.180.179)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:03:09 EDT 2002
So u implying vj's mom make worse thosai than SaravanaBavan?
thats harsh..that lady may feel bad
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:10:54 EDT 2002
Vj:
BGM?? I dont really agree with that,<.i>
Wasnt the BGM of Zubeidaa, Roja, Lagaan good?
Wasnt the orchestration of the new Jana Gana Mana good? Besides the innumerable etcetras :-)
but all other points are a bit agreeable.
only a bit!? :-))
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Jul 10 03:11:15 EDT 2002
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Wed Jul 10 03:11:15 EDT 2002
- From: AVR (@ 143.127.3.10)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:12:13 EDT 2002
sorry - here goes.
Vj:
BGM?? I dont really agree with that,
Wasnt the BGM of Zubeidaa, Roja, Lagaan good?
Wasnt the orchestration of the new Jana Gana Mana good? Besides the innumerable etcetras :-)
but all other points are a bit agreeable.
only a bit!? :-))
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.180.179)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:12:21 EDT 2002
(analogue to IR-ARR)
So I heard Saravanabavan no more make south indian dishes, mostly western dishes. And one day a uk bum named Webber comes visit Saravanabavan.. and felt so home. SO he took Saravanabavan to London for the relase of the food "SaravanaBavan Dreams".
But Western ppl still preferred pizza or pasta to Saravanabavan's dreams. SO he came back to South India to make dosai again.. this time for Baba.
But vj's mom still with her original and unique dosai. But the sad news is both her sons (KR & YSR) eats in Saravanabavan once in a while.
heHEHE....
- From: pc (@ 12.234.138.159)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:27:13 EDT 2002
Kum_Laden
That is awesome comparison.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.41)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:36:28 EDT 2002
All ARR detractors are kindly requested NOT To post in this thread. ?????????????????
- From: Vaiyapuri (@ 64.216.219.7)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:41:10 EDT 2002
ARR ommala jana gana and vandhe madharam rendu pattayum kola pannittan. adha kekkudu indha poolatti Tamilian. you know what makes ARR special. Avandhan sunn*iyilladha first MD in tamil cinema. ARRukku kottaiyadichadhu Deva.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.41)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:41:46 EDT 2002
hahahahahahahahahaha
- From: Vaiyapuri (@ 64.216.219.7)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:44:00 EDT 2002
Back Ground Music soriyan madhiri vasippan indha ARR. Tamil filmukku saabakedu ARR.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:47:44 EDT 2002
:-)
- From: Tamilian (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:51:25 EDT 2002
The one thing I notice about ARR's music is that there is something new to discover each time you listen to it. Also there are pleasant surprises each time you hear it thru headphones.
It is these kind of specilities that make copiers of ARR impossible to recreate his magic.
Let us discuss specific songs of his such as:
1. Chinna chinna aasai
2. Raasathi en usuru enathille
3. Thangame Thamizhukku enge thattupaadu
4. Kannukku mai azhagu
5. Kannodu kaanbathellaam
6. Minsaara poove pen poove
7. Maana mathura maamarathu kilaiyile
8. Athisaya thirumanam
9. Poraale ponnuthaaye
10. Theendaai penn theendaai
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:55:14 EDT 2002
Tamilian:
enna oru observation........
poooooooooooooooooooooo....
- From: Vj (@ 61.11.81.88)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:56:51 EDT 2002
well well well.... i dont think my posting deserved such a 'respect' which drags my mom, the taste of dosas etc etc..
when r u guys gonna respect other's opinions?
the fault is mine. i thought everyone deserves respect and everyone can voice their opinion in this website. and i am proved wrong almost every other time.
thanks folks. u might not see me further in this site.
And thats the bottomline, 'coz Vj said so.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 03:59:41 EDT 2002
GOOD c ya
as long as u don't respect others opinion ,
no one will respect ur opinion tooo ok
- From: Uthaman (@ 65.69.56.221)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:04:16 EDT 2002
ARR lacks grace
He simply has no grace.
Illayaraja music captures the mood so well. Example. Nee Partha Parvaikkoru Nandri. It is an ultimate composition from the genius. It blended with the movie so well. 'Thamarai mele neer thuli pole thalaivanum thalaviyum vazhvadenna'.. what lines and what tune Mouna Raagam is still memorable because of these unforgettable tunes and BGM. To reach that level ARR has to go a loooooooooooooo...........ong way.
- From: Tamilian (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:15:38 EDT 2002
Some people obviously DO NOT understand simple English.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:18:25 EDT 2002
Tamilian
Some people obviously DO NOT understand simple English.
I don't know whether u understand Tamil and tamil music all about....
- From: Tamilian (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:23:12 EDT 2002
Obvious YOU think you know more about Tamil music than the millions of Tamils who made ARR what he is today AND relegated IR to what he is today.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:28:20 EDT 2002
Tamilian
Well people like you have relegated IR. Don't blame others. And a true music lover will not relegate any musician or composer , they will welcome newer ones.
ok.
- From: Tamilian (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:33:11 EDT 2002
I am not talking about individual tastes. You know for yourself where is ARR and where is IR today. Before you blame public for their changing tastes, stop and ponder.
- From: Tamilian (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:36:24 EDT 2002
Well, time to head home.
For a change, instead of just knocking down IR whenever there was ARR bashing, I thought of doing something positive. Looks like it won't work. Maybe got to fight fire with fire.
As for Vj, that was a parable, not an insult to your mother. I would never insult a mother. Please see the story behind my posting and then you will understand.
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.42)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:40:29 EDT 2002
Tamilian
What is individual and public.
Well I think u are really like a horse driven with blind folded eyes. IR composition is very much good now also and more improved too in DEVAN songs for example. Because of the hype that is created by people like u, he is there where u think and project in media too like that.
I am still consider IR better than ARR infact he cannot match al all. I have not made any offencive statement against anyone. ok
- From: a (@ 156.153.254.41)
on: Wed Jul 10 04:42:44 EDT 2002
Tamilian
What is individual and public ?.
Well I think u are really like a horse driven with blind folded eyes. IR composition is very much good now also and more improved too in DEVAN songs for example. Because of the hype that is created by people like u, he is there where u think and projected in media too like that.
I am still consider IR better than ARR infact he cannot match at all. I have not made any offencive statement against anyone. ok
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