Topic started by Srip (@ 203.197.138.162) on Mon Mar 6 02:33:47 EST 2000.
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Hi !
I guess one of the favourite ragas of IR is
sindhubhairavi(Recent songs- Ram Ram,thavikkiraen,nilavu paatu).I guess u all agree with me.
bye
Responses:
- From: purv (@ )
on: Tue Feb 18 21:06:22 EST 2003
Srip, another one of IR's favorite raagas, apparently, is Keeravani. I guess ARR's fave is Shankarabharanam
- From: Speaker (@ 203.126.142.232)
on: Tue Feb 18 21:25:58 EST 2003
Isn't IR also called as "Mohana" Raaja..
- From: shwetha (@ 219.65.120.60)
on: Wed Feb 19 20:05:12 EST 2003
Kalyani,Pantuvarali,Kanada/Darbari Kanada and likes i think also are the mostly expoited ragams.
Maandu has been used by ARR in many songs.
- From: vardhini (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Thu Feb 20 16:39:32 EST 2003
I feel IR is also Pahaadi raaja
- From: Angeli (@ 195.217.141.65)
on: Fri Feb 21 05:46:06 EST 2003
I would agree with 'puruv' and say Ilayraja's favourite Raga is KEERAVANI...... The number of songs he has composed in this Raga is unbelievable. Yes, he also composed many in Mohanam, at 1 point in his career.
I would say, for Vidhyasagar, his favourite is Dharbari Kanada.
ARR has done some lovely Kafi numbers and also seems to like Keeravani. But he has done few songs in Pure Raga. I read somewhere that he likes Sahana and Desh a lot.
Yuvan likes Reethigowla, I heard, but has not produced a song in that, although his Theenda Theenda follows a Reethigowla/Sri Ranjani pattern. He too has successfully utilised Keeravani.
As for Karthik, he has used many Ragas, one of his best Pure Raga utilisations was 'Ragasiyamay' from Dum Dum Dum, in Malayamarutham.
Other MD's like Deva seem to go for the Gaana Ragam, which tends to be SINDHUBAIRAVHI mainly.
- From: Angeli (@ 195.217.141.65)
on: Fri Feb 21 05:48:08 EST 2003
I would like to add that of all the MD's, Ilayaraja has used the biggest and most complex variety of Ragas - from the Rare to the Common in such a tremenduos variety of compositions. There is no doubt about his knowledge of Carnatic Music - it is awsome!
- From: vardhini (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Fri Feb 21 09:40:20 EST 2003
YSR has another reethigowla in ' Churidar anindu vanda sorgame' film poovellam kettupaar
- From: Angeli (@ 195.217.141.65)
on: Fri Feb 21 12:35:29 EST 2003
Vardhini: Churidar anindu vanda sorgame' is in KARAHARAPRIYA
- From: An (@ 217.40.209.205)
on: Fri Feb 21 17:20:08 EST 2003
Ooohh, forgot - Vidhyasagar also seems to like Hamsanadham! In fact, they all seem to have at least 1 song in it, or a song which is predominantly in Hamsanadham!
- From: shwetha (@ 219.65.120.51)
on: Fri Feb 21 21:31:02 EST 2003
AN... u probably talkin bout poo vaasam from anbesivam
- From: An (@ 217.40.209.205)
on: Sat Feb 22 08:29:11 EST 2003
Shwetha - yep, I think he's done a few more, not sure - but I think Oru Poovelythum Kavidhai is byBarathwaj, I think. He also did a song which had Hamsanadham in it, from the Prasanth and Laila movie, forgot the name, sung by Unni and Harini.
- From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Sat Feb 22 17:43:01 EST 2003
IR has definitely charted into not widely known raagas like Rasikapriya, Kanakangi, Bhaavapriya , Ganamurthy etc. But he has been really prolific in Mohanam compositions. Mohana raagam madhuramaana raagam.Mayangador ippuviyil undo?
Friends, here goes my lo...ng list of IR songs in Mohanam. If Iam wrong, experts ,please make the correction/ addition.
1. Kannan oru kaikuzhandai (From ) Bhadrakali)
2. Enkanmani un kaadali (From chittukuruvi)
3. vaa ponmayile (From poonthalir)
4. naan undan thayagavendum (From ullaasaparavaigal)
5. kanmaniye kaadal (From 6 to 60 varai)
6. malare pesu mouna mozhi (From geethanjali)
7.engum nirainda iyarkaiyil(From idu eppadi irukku)
8. geetha sangeetha (From anbe sangeetha)
9. iruparavaigal (From Niram maratha pookal)
10. kasturi maane(From pudumai penn)
11. gundu malli (From solla maranda kathai)
12. naan thanga roja (From Time)
13. inda poovukoru arasan poovarasan (From poovarasan)
14. poovil vandu (From kaadal oviyam)
15. thamtha deemtha adum ullam paadum kaaviyam (From pagalil oru iravu)
16. cheenathu pattu meni((From thaimukhambigai)
17. oru vaanavil pole (From kaatrinile varum geetham)
18. oru thangaradathil pon manjal nilavu (From dharmayudham)
19. idayam oru koil (From idayakkoil)
20. geetham sangeetham (From kokarako)
21. nilavu thoongum neram (From kungumachimizh)
22. vandade kungumam (From kizhakku vaasal)
23. oru raagam paadalodu (From ananda raagam)
24. vel muruganuku mottai (From poovukkul boohambam)
25. mudhan mudhalaga (From Niram maratha pookal)
26. abc neevaasi (From oru kaidiyin dairy)
27. thaalatude vaanam(From kadal meengal)
28. oru kanam oru yugamaga (From naadodi thenral)
29. Malargalil aadum ilamai ???
(From kalyanaraman)
30. Oops , I nearly forgot this. Ninnukori varnam (From agninakshatram)
- From: purv (@ 205.231.31.174)
on: Sat Feb 22 19:21:13 EST 2003
mythila, I think no. 29, Malargalil Aadum is in Sudhasaveri, not Mohanam.
- From: LM (@ 203.40.140.103)
on: Sat Feb 22 20:38:12 EST 2003
IR did a number in Kanakangi - "moham ennum" in Sindhu Bhairavi
- From: shwetha (@ 61.11.81.186)
on: Mon Feb 24 07:09:56 EST 2003
thats enakkenna erkanave pirandhaval ivalo....from paarthen rasithen an... thats Hamsanaadham by bharadwaj
- From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Mon Feb 24 15:10:22 EST 2003
Probably, Purv. I had a doubt.
Three more Mohanam songs to IR's credit.
30. Muthathu maadapura (duet. film???
starring prabhu, Kanaka, Vinitha.)
31. Meenkodi theril (film Karumbuvil)
32. Vaan pole nannam konda(film Salangaioli)
- From: purv (@ 205.231.151.222)
on: Mon Feb 24 20:27:16 EST 2003
How about we throw light on the favorite raagas of obscure MDs and MDs of yesteryear as well as those of current hit MDs?
For instance, I think, now this is just a wild guess, that Devendran's favorite raaga is Hindolam, and Gangai Amaran's favorite is Gowrimanohari. Any other ideas?
- From: Angeli (@ 195.217.141.65)
on: Tue Feb 25 08:21:30 EST 2003
shwetha - Thanks :-)
- From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Tue Feb 25 12:56:21 EST 2003
(MaragadaMani)Keeravani has scored lots of songs in Hindolam(or)Suddadhanyasi in many of his telugu films. Eg: Annamaiyaa etc.Strangely I have not heard any Keeravani from him. Most of the Keeravani(or)RishiVanis I have heard, are from IR.
- From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Wed Feb 26 11:06:06 EST 2003
Two more Mohanams composed by IR.
33. Thiru theril varum silayo (film Naan vaazha veipen)
34. Naan oru pon oviyam kanden(film kannil theiyum kadaigal).
I wish somebody comes up with a list of popular raagas like kalyani/sindubhairavi/Abheri composed by MSV/KVM . There must be many.
- From: purv (@ 205.231.31.118)
on: Thu Feb 27 20:11:23 EST 2003
mythila, #30, Muthathu Maadapura from 'Periya Kudambam' (1995)? Is this the song you are referring to?
- From: purv (@ )
on: Mon May 19 17:01:49 EDT 2003
mythila, isn't 'Thirutheril Varum Silaiyo' raagam Sooranandhini (Shankarabharanam minus the Madhyamam)?
Also, another big one is Natabhairavi. I think about 1/3 of all film songs are in this raagam. It ranks high up with the likes of Sindhu Bhairavi, Keeravani, Sivaranjani, Madhyamavathi, Shankarabharanam, and Mohanam.
- From: mythila (@ 137.237.13.20)
on: Mon May 19 18:36:01 EDT 2003
Purv, please list out some songs with strong classical touch in Natabhairavi. Some of them which Iam aware of, BUT which are very light
1. Maniye manikuyile from Naadodithenral
2.Oru naal - Devathai
3. Madai thirandhu paadum - Nizhalgal.
- From: purv (@ 205.231.145.209)
on: Mon May 19 20:02:25 EDT 2003
Euh, I ain't no music expert anymore than you are. But I'll try. :-)
- From: rsr (@ 61.1.229.233)
on: Sat May 24 17:38:33 EDT 2003
vaseegara from minnale is Nbairavi.
then, what else.?
- From: purv (@ 205.231.147.74)
on: Mon May 26 21:09:35 EDT 2003
Actually, I found from reading an article "Classical Ilayaraja" that though it receives much emphasis in WCM and TFM, there is actually a dearth of the usage of raagam Natabhairavi in Carnatic music.
- From: Jag (@ 35.11.98.63)
on: Mon May 26 23:49:18 EDT 2003
Can anyone verify whether IR's song in telugu movie anweshana which goes like "keeravaani keeravaani..." is based on Keeravani ragam? Thanks.
Also, IR gave similar song in telugu movie Rudraveena (Unnal Mudhiyam Thambi), which goes like "lalita priya kamalam.." in which the heroine's name being lalita, IR based the song on lalita raagam. A classic touch from the maestro.
Jag
- From: Paran (@ 203.123.16.249)
on: Tue May 27 01:40:14 EDT 2003
How do you guys actually relate a raaga and a song?
I am seriously naive on this, can anyone give a link or something, where i can read in greated detail..pleaseeeeeeeeee
- From: shwetha (@ 203.195.193.138)
on: Tue May 27 08:04:18 EDT 2003
Hey Jag.... yup that is Keeravani...and a perfect keeravani. I guess the movie was "paadum paravaigal" in tamil.
Hey Purv... even carnatic music doesn't seem to have too many songs in Nata Bhairavi.... the most popular one being "sree valli devasena pathe" by Papanaasam Sivan
- From: purv (@ 205.231.31.152)
on: Tue May 27 12:46:26 EDT 2003
Paran, this link may help:
http://www.geocities.com/promiserani2/ragas.html
Here you can find just about each and every raagam in the book.
Regards,
purv
- From: Raj (@ 206.97.63.112)
on: Tue May 27 13:06:43 EDT 2003
mythila/purv:Try the link below...
http://ilaiyaraja_ragam.com/ilaiyaragam/id5.html
(I hope I copied it correctly).
It is true that Natabhairavi is not as popular as its deriatives-Bhairavi,Hindholam,Anandhabhairavi etc. Looks like it is gaining popularity. Also,it is considered to be a 'serious' raga .
A cursory review of the link shows that Sindhubhairavi is IR's favorite. It has been popular in film music for a long time.
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