Topic started by Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on Wed Aug 14 03:15:37 EDT 2002.
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http://www.mondomelodia.com/mondoindia.htm
Check out the info on this CD compilation and track list. Has mostly ARR songs, 2 by other composers (Vishal and RDB). Check out the very interesting liner notes in the same page.
Here are the international reviews:
http://www.technobeat.com/COLUMNS/Caffeine.html
""World music label Mondo just sent me its new anthologies, Mondo
Africa, Mondo Greece, and Mondo India. I already have so many African
music samplers in a back closet that my house leans to one side. And
the Greek disc didn't grab me. Mondo India throbs with originality,
however, and that's as much to do with the bass and drum-heavy
production as the modern approach of filmi impresario A. R. Rahman.
Compiler Gerald Seligman is so taken with Rahman that all but two
tracks on the disc are his, and one of the stragglers belongs to
Vishal, a composer influenced by Rahman. The late R. D. Burham ,
credited with introducing non-Indian musical elements to soundtracks,
fills the other non-Rahman slot with 1994's "Ek Ladki Ko Dekha." The
lean arrangement is a far cry from the heyday of filmi when
everything from jazz, country, soul, and European classical music
motifs crowded into a single three-minute opus. Rahman's hallmark is
the same homogeneity. Instead of yesteryear's exciting kitsch
collages, he assembles glassy panoramas that blur Indian elements
with a familiar world music topography of effects-laden vocals, up-
front electronic percussion, samples, and synthesizers. All is
tastefully integrated with dreamy voices and melodies evoking
romantic themes, while percussive wallops jab the thrill-seeking
contingent of the audience awake at regular intervals.
Saving these songs from the realm of Joi, Atman, and other plunderers
of Indian treasure is faithfulness to the subcontinental material
that generally rings true. Instruments may dive and surface, rhythms
may be parsed, but the lead vocals maintain their integrity and
therefore a sustained power of mood. "Narumugaiye" is contemporary
more by attitude than instrumentation as sarangi, vernacular flute,
zither, and tuned percussion join a lovely duet by Unnikrishnan and
Bombay Jayasree. Atmospherics and a synthesizer solo put it in the
1990s, but the entwined vocals convey the eternal spirit of pop chart-
style young love. "Gopika Poornima" pushes a similar concept into the
realm of the maudlin. And "Alyayio Kanavaa" is so diluted it could be
from anywheresporting a church choir opening, hip hop beats, and the
kind of vacuous signifying that passes for passion in place of the
more traditional delivery that make Indian vocals unique. But even
this is done with real appeal. In a crowded soundtrack field that
sees something like 800 films produced each year, Rahman is really
onto something, selling over 40 million cassettes in the last three
years. That's usually a guarantee of mediocrity, but this sample
culled from 35 cds proves that Rahman is the raja."
http://www.ink19.com/issues/february2002/musicReviews/musicM/mondoIndia.html
"Henry Ford lives! Sure, his surname may now be Patel or Singh, and
he hails from Madras instead of Motown. But he does live and, instead
of producing cars, movies are his thing. Bollywood, baby. Where
singers are locked up in sweatshops, belting out thousands of songs a
day and new movies deluge the subcontinent like monsoon rain. But in
this maelstrom of activity where conformity is king (tons of music,
tons of action, boatloads of dancing, and heaps of love scenes --
with no kissing!), truly artistic jewels do emerge. After all, the
company that gave us the Model T did also deliver the '68 'Stang.
A.R. Rahman is just such a jewel, and Mondo India is a tribute to his
artistry. This film composer has a nice, subtle touch, able to mix
Western sensibilities with Indian tradition that can satisfy both
East and West alike (which is a difficult task, since Indian music
can grate on Western ears). But, who would expect anything less from
Deepa Mehta's (Fire and Earth) personal composer?
"Narumugaiye" is a sweet ballad that combines classic raga percussion
with a peculiar symphonic quality that is charming. There's the slow-
crawling, funk bass in "Pachaikiligal." And "Aiyaiyo Kanavaa" is a
true culture clash that sounds like it's been mixed by a minimalist
DJ, whose been strongly influenced by Laurie Anderson and Kate Bush,
and an R&B diva who wails as though she's back in the Church.
One can tell that the producers of this compilation specially hand-
picked each track with an American audience in mind. Each song
contains elements with which we can identify and enjoy. It makes one
wonder if this is truly representative of Rahman's work. However, the
disc works quite well. The only problem is that they should've just
made this a Rahman disc. In an attempt to give the composer some kind
of historical context, they picked one song each by his mentor, R.D.
Burman, and his disciple, Vishal. While both are good songs, they add
nothing to the compilation (since most of us don't know the history
of Bollywood composers, what kind of context do we get from one guy
we don't know being influenced by another guy we don't know and a guy
we don't know who is strongly influenced by the first guy we don't
know?) and distract from an otherwise excellent overview of Rahman's
work (or Rahman's work we're sure to like)."
Amazon.com
"While a compilation, Mondo India is essentially a celebration of the
work of A.R. Rahman--possibly the greatest of the modern filmi
composers, and a man who can seamlessly marry Indian and Western
melodies, instruments, and techniques in a way no one has managed
before. While there's a track each from his mentor R.D. Burman and
his disciple Vishal, it's Rahman's work that sparkles with melody
upon melody and an almost infinite sense of invention in the songs.
He is to the Bollywood scene what Ennio Morricone or Nino Rota have
been to European cinema: people who transcend the idea of score and
soundtrack to bring forth pieces like "Dheeme Dheeme" that can stand
alone as pieces of music. He's not perfect--the ambient-
oriented "Alyaiyo Kanavaa" never really goes anywhere, for example--
but the vast majority of Rahman's work outstrips his contemporaries,
both Eastern and Western. He's been called a genius; on the basis of
this collection, that's not idle chatter. --Chris Nickson"
A search for reviews of MondoIndia CD in Google would throw up many more like the above. We know how good his music is. Most of these reviews are by non-Indians who might not be exposed to Indian music at all. And they comprehend Rahman's music and shower accolades to such extent, it truly means ARR's music transcends boundaries!
Responses:
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- From: Read this (@ 63.201.144.200)
on: Thu Aug 15 17:02:20 EDT 2002
http://www.deccan.com/features/cinema/template.shtml#AR%20Rahman’s%20copycat%20ways
- From: ST (@ 64.229.179.196)
on: Thu Aug 15 17:13:32 EDT 2002
Intha address illatha sori naai [thorathidu antha s**t (@ 152.163.189.230) ] uthai vaangi saga poguthu!
- From: Unmai (@ 24.130.233.129)
on: Thu Aug 15 18:00:52 EDT 2002
Yes Read this@63.201....
This is what i have been trying to say. I know getting inspired is common. But using some unknown tunes for Tamilian and plagiarizing will obviously be a stigma. After i came here like 5 years to U.S i discovered so many songs of ARR are inspiration from pop tunes and new age songs.
No matter how well they sound it is still a copy!!
- From: guess what (@ 205.188.195.193)
on: Thu Aug 15 20:03:35 EDT 2002
ST, i will get your address and come affter your, wherever you are son of a b
- From: ST (@ 64.229.222.9)
on: Fri Aug 16 09:08:35 EDT 2002
Message to mundam [guess what (@ 205.188.195.193)], don't forget to bring other 3 mundams with you so that I can go for hat Rick HiHiHiHiiiii......
- From: SadLoser (@ 216.196.153.54)
on: Sun Aug 18 18:35:34 EDT 2002
sad to see such posts by guys with no self esteem (guy who started this thread, ie). No wonder Indians were ruled by the British so long. Some nobody guy from some no name label praises ARR, and he goes gaga. Sigh...dude! ARR is good - stop looking for validation from mediocre "International" people. You dont see the Brits and the Americans drooling for acceptance like this.
- From: cosmician (@ 194.170.1.130)
on: Sun Aug 18 19:21:52 EDT 2002
Sad Loser...
Whatever said, it is the empire of the Brits and Americans today and we are making our own conquests into it. SO there is nothing wrong in highlighting such achievements. Please think before you post.
- From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241)
on: Sun Aug 18 22:00:50 EDT 2002
aaha..pramadhama irukke threadu :-)
- From: MusicIsLife (@ 63.72.253.11)
on: Mon Aug 19 11:34:22 EDT 2002
Whoever it is!! Can you please stop this language as a request!! Guys/Gals, it is so hard to believe that why people fight about individuals. As a matter of fact, i guess, ARR might not be fighting with IR, or probably i dont read as much news as you guys do. We seem to be biased to our own liking, appreciation, appeal to a genre of music and think that other types are not good or worthless. It is as simple as people liking Metal or rap or hip-hop or rock or pop and people liking a particular raag. it is just one's own way of attributing or reacting a particular musical liking. Just stay with the discussion as far as possible, not make it a IR/ARR fight and make this discussion a creative one. My suggestion would be we could say how this album could be better, choose better songs of ARR or classical ones of IR and make it a unique selling proposition. by this it becomes more creative/constructive criticism rather a fist-fight and a nasty argument.
- From: richie (@ 202.9.167.47)
on: Mon Aug 19 12:19:14 EDT 2002
BOMBAY DREAMS & the single SHAKALAKA BABY In the list of Best sellers.
http://www.dresscircle.co.uk/specialreleases.asp?mode=bestseller
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.197.141.186)
on: Wed Aug 21 07:12:13 EDT 2002
richie:
I think your news link has fallen as egg on many faces.
- From: Unmai (@ 24.130.233.129)
on: Wed Aug 21 15:02:08 EDT 2002
Forget about international praise!! Let him get the local praise first!! Texas is bigger than U.K! So many desis are living in U.K! I watched CNN, E! Online, NBC entertainment, CMT, MTV, VH1, CBS entertainment, Fox entertainment, .. i didn't see any word about Bombay Dreams!! I find Indian fans comical!! ransacking the entire net just to see if there is one soul with a non-indian name appreciating their favorite indian artist.. We still kind of live in a slavery world!!. For heaven's sake he is no Tendulkar. First of all Bombay Dreams has no tamil songs!! It is a TFM forum. Don't you think it is inappropriate to post this? I find most of the fans very amateurish. "Egg on many faces".. what are you studying in fifth grade? I am in U.S i listened to it just once. My first impression was it was a very very ordinary effort. I haven't listened to it again. Lot of Indians atleast like 60-65 in our office don't even know there was an album called Bombay Dreams. Infact i came to know there was one such album because of this forum only few days back. Only a small group knows about this album!! According to some of you only those who like ARR music are musically knowledgable and the rest are morons!!
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