
Topic started by Guru (@ 129.49.81.60) on Thu Sep 5 21:29:38 EDT 2002.
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Ok..Guys...I feel like committing suicide when I hear Rahman being branded Eastern or Asian Mozart. Why all this hype and why all of a sudden this worthless comparison?
Comment on this guys!
Responses:
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Thu Sep 5 22:26:10 EDT 2002
Why don't you do all of us a favour and commit suicide.
Don't worry, in your case it won't be a sin, but a service to mankind.
Go on, do it.
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.44.146)
on: Thu Sep 5 23:08:04 EDT 2002
You are right.. You know why they branded him...
He copied Mozart's 25th symphony and used it in his jingles. From then on he called himself Mozart.. As simple as that. Guru don't pay too much attention to these senseless comaprison in the showbiz. Once in an interview one guy told Kamalhasan is better than Dustin Hoffman. These things are common. Flattering each other is the name of the game in show biz. Have you talked to these north indians? They can sell sand stone as diamond. Ground Reality is different.
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Thu Sep 5 23:16:39 EDT 2002
IR copied Entha poovilum vaasamundu and called himself maestro.
Now will both of YOU go and commit suicide?
- From: Awe (@ 65.69.58.94)
on: Thu Sep 5 23:56:16 EDT 2002
Guru. Ask him what he copied it from? What movement? Probably he won't know anything about the classical piece. I know he is arguing based on a website where they have posted all the inspired songs.. ARR has more there... along with Deva.. That tune was just the beginning.. IR has shown enough variations... with brilliant adaptation as folk tune.. What this guy has done is just used the Mozart music without any change.
I can show how ARR steals tune.. i have more than 50 examples... shall i release it one by one..
- From: Paran (@ 210.193.2.70)
on: Fri Sep 6 00:05:37 EDT 2002
ama...amaaaa...
IR is the King og Udupi...ade pongappa....
ithutan periyavange sonnage..."kaikire marathilthan kalladi villum"....arr is "kaikiran-ing"...and u guys "adikiran-ing"...
vella vetiya parunge pa
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Fri Sep 6 01:33:05 EDT 2002
You murder one person or murder a 100, you can only be killed once.
Similarly, once a copy cat, you will always be branded a copy cat.
Conclusion: IR is a copy cat.
Case closed.
- From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134)
on: Fri Sep 6 01:44:14 EDT 2002
you murder one person you will be killed once. similarly you copy once you are copy cat. you murder 100s people will send ambassadors to you, send money to you, write cover stories about you, make you MLA - MP, give you Padma Shri, Bhushan, give you the power to rule. similarly you copy 100s of times......
Conclusion: I rest the case in the hands of my beloved friends in both camps
aedho aennaala mudinjadhu theeyai nalla vaLarkaraen, naaraayana naaraayana ;-))
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Fri Sep 6 02:08:47 EDT 2002
Kupps,
neenga bayangaramaana aaL ... I have to be careful with you ;-))))
NagaS
- From: God (@ 161.142.100.86)
on: Fri Sep 6 02:12:41 EDT 2002
Kupps, LOL
Habitual copy cats will be given a doctorate?
Hehe, ennaal mudinthathu.
- From: Stone Cold (@ 210.186.78.58)
on: Fri Sep 6 06:29:17 EDT 2002
IR fans .R u jealous of arr???????????
u supposed to be proud that arr is first indian music director achieved internationally.
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.181.157)
on: Fri Sep 6 06:47:55 EDT 2002
My dream is this..
IR and ARR in basketball leading each's team... Srinivas, Sureshpeters, Anubama, Jayachandran(!), SPB, Sukwinder in ARR team.
Hariharan, Bavatharini, YSR, KR etc in IR team.
Karthik plays in both team (lol)
I have a strong feeling ARR will beat IR in this case (too?)
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.201.74)
on: Fri Sep 6 07:22:04 EDT 2002
Kum_Laden,
Where is Udit Narayan ?
Where is Sadhana Sargam ?
;-)
NagaS
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 66.185.85.76)
on: Fri Sep 6 12:05:52 EDT 2002
Sadana Sagam first came in as a member of ARR team then switched as a key player in IR team.
:)
Udit Narayan is hurt so he sent his son Aditya to 'help' ARR.
:P
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.181.216)
on: Sat Sep 7 11:33:38 EDT 2002
athaane....oru naalaikku ippadi oru topic aaramikkalanna ulagam azhinjidumey! .... nadathunga :)
- From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Tue Sep 10 02:40:55 EDT 2002
BUT THE ONE THING NOBODY CAN SHAKE is that the great ARR came from IR team.
"HE was born with Music and we were born with HIS music" - how so apt...wunderful!
:)
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.180.217)
on: Tue Sep 10 11:45:52 EDT 2002
great ARR-nu oththubda poathum.......nuthin else required :)
- From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Wed Sep 11 00:33:39 EDT 2002
C~P,
At least you got it. Never disputed that. But still don't forget the second matter.
:)
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.148.196)
on: Wed Sep 11 07:18:55 EDT 2002
athu vaera onnum illai.....soarvu!......ippo naan solli yaaravathu kaekka poraangala enna?! ....hope u got the point as well! :)
- From: ambleen (@ 202.156.2.138)
on: Wed Sep 11 09:26:00 EDT 2002
Athu sari than. ena solluruthoda senji(isaiyale) kattunanthane makkalkku convincingah irukum.
:)
- From: C~P (@ 202.9.148.190)
on: Wed Sep 11 11:50:29 EDT 2002
ithukku maela oru manushan enna saathikka mudiyum?.......even if he achieves,if there are ppl to say "thats no achievement" me wat do?!
- From: ST (@ 64.229.179.29)
on: Wed Sep 11 12:43:09 EDT 2002
C~P,
Let IR fans worry about him not achieving what ARR has achieved within 10 years.
- From: a (@ 67.216.203.34)
on: Wed Sep 11 12:52:30 EDT 2002
oye...sala ST.....IR has already achieved what the great other musicians achieved in other parts of the world....IR is nothing below to Mozart....Mozart gave music based on the taste of Europeans and IR gave music based on our taste......How can you say that White's interest and taste is better than Indians....??
- From: a (@ 67.216.203.34)
on: Wed Sep 11 12:53:14 EDT 2002
oye........IR has already achieved what the great other musicians achieved in other parts of the world....IR is nothing below to Mozart....Mozart gave music based on the taste of Europeans and IR gave music based on our taste......How can you say that White's interest and taste is better than Indians....??
- From: Chennai (@ 209.245.76.57)
on: Wed Sep 11 13:01:43 EDT 2002
It will take 150 years for ARR to achieve what IR has achieved provided IR stops scoring music.. For example 800 movies (Songs and BGM) in 26 years. Average 31 movies per year.
ARR 50 movies in 10 years (mostly songs). Average 5 movies per year. At this rate he needs to live another 150 years to go past what IR has achieved till date. I hope ST is aware people don't live 150 years. Let us talk about quality... ARR's songs are hip hops like Hamma Hamma, mustafa mustafa, Chayya Chayya, Chikku pukku Chikku pukku,
Shakkalaka baby shakalaka baby these are the "classicals" given by ARR. Honestly tell me atleast one song is decent enough.. I would rather listen to Jennifer Lopez, Britney spears songs than this poorly attempted tamilicized hip hop songs. I agree some ARR fans live in "kundu chatti" they don't know about outside world. for them these type of songs are new. So both quality and quantitywise to achieve what IR has done so far, ARR has to live for 500000 years.. I am very glad KB didn't make movies like Sindhu Bhairavi after he splitted with IR. Imagine ARR scoring for Sindhu Bhairavi.. Balachander will committ suicide. Imagine ARR scoring music for Nayagan.
Nayagan wouldn't have run for more than 20 days.
Another weirdest imagination. ARR scoring for Mudhal Mariyathai... Andre BR kku sangu oodhpattirukkum
- From: ST (@ 64.229.179.29)
on: Wed Sep 11 13:06:23 EDT 2002
Oh my god! where are you a (@ 67.216.203.34) ?. Do you know many Indians do not know IR, but is there any Indian who doesn't know ARR today. Wake up & come out of that closed room!!!
Just think a second before ink!!!
- From: Guru (@ 129.49.149.179)
on: Wed Sep 11 13:06:34 EDT 2002
dear chennai...well said...but i think 20 days will be too much for rahman scored nayagan...
look at baba...enna hype maame....london scoream...kaathula poiduchu...
- From: Chennai (@ 209.245.44.26)
on: Wed Sep 11 14:13:24 EDT 2002
A.R.R for Nayagan... that would have been disaster of unimaginable proportions for Mani Ratnam.. he would have never recovered from the failure..
Mouna Raagam, Idhayathai Thirudathe, Agni Natchatiram, Nayagan, Anjali, Pagal Nilavu, Idhaya Kovil, Dalapathy all would have been total failures if only ARR had scored music.
- From: :) (@ 209.244.97.163)
on: Wed Sep 11 14:21:05 EDT 2002
kuppayi from andipatti doesn't know about ARR..
Veerappan and Jayalalitha is known all over India. Just because people know someone he doesn't become great.. Deva Gowda was known to everybody.. so he is a great person huh? Lot of people don't know about Tendulkar too. That doesn't make him a lesser player. What kind of a logic is that? Let ARR satisfies entire TN first. He is not even able to satisfy music fans in this forum. You guys have weirdest scales to measure some one's talent..
- From: ST (@ 64.229.179.29)
on: Wed Sep 11 15:01:24 EDT 2002
Aha Aha Ithu ellam Americavil irunthu sollanuma?
Why don't you just compare like with like. Just illustrate your point with musicians only. Don't drag others in here because they are all well known for committing atrocities. Do you have to write things like this to prove that you are an IR fan?
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 66.185.85.76)
on: Wed Sep 11 15:45:42 EDT 2002
Chennai,
why didint u look at the other side of the coin too? What if had IR scored for Jeans?
"Haira Haira Hairabba" will be replaced by
"Yaro Yaro Yaroppa Ponaa pohatum vidappa"
"Anpe Anpe kollathae" would be
"Ammma Amma kollathae" or more like "Athaa Athaa kolathae"
Nai pakira velaiyai Kaluthai paka mudiyathu.. dont waste ur time.
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 66.185.85.76)
on: Wed Sep 11 15:48:14 EDT 2002
I am waiting for.... yaaro oru lollan vanthu soluvaan "Naai pakira velaiyai Inoru nai parka mudiyatha?"
- From: Srini (@ 166.90.35.219)
on: Wed Sep 11 18:25:15 EDT 2002
Kum_laden analaum idhu konjam overa theriayala?
Wow what a comparison? You say one needs made to order brain to compose songs like haira haira hairappa and anbe anbe kollathe.
listen to Nila Kayum Neram Saranam that is far better than Anbe Anbe Kollathe..
listen to Germaniyin Senthen Malare that is far better than Haira Haira Hairappa..
Lyrics are written by Lyricists. Not MDs. Just changing Anbe Anbe into Amma Amma won't make it an IR song.. What are the odds IR compose the exact tune according to you? His tune will be different. Words will be different? Don't you think your argument is kinda naive? IR will score music for movies like Jeans in sleep. IR scores BGM and quality songs. But scoring music for Sindhu Bhairavi requires skill.
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