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Why are singers from the North (or West, rather) made to sing tamil songs?

Topic started by Gopal Prasad (@ host-207-53-2-187.atl.bellsouth.net) on Wed Jul 2 16:52:41 EDT 1997.
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• From: Gopal Prasad (@ host-207-53-2-187.atl.bellsouth.net) on: Wed Jul 2 17:02:12 EDT 1997
  
  What is the need? Variety? Or is it the kind of AmrishPuri-in-Maniratnam-movie kind of fad? Just to make people talk about the song or movie, nowadays people are imported from the north (and may be vice versa)I dont think Lata Mangeshkar or Asha Bonsle have done any justice when it comes to Tamil songs! There are enough singing talents in the South and many are yet to be tried! Our tamil moviedom is quite funny! On the one hand, actors like Karthik, Vijay(?), are forced to sing in the movies (thereby settling in for cacophony!!)The other end is full of singers from North, like Udit singing "tamill" songs. Do you call this changing times?
  
  
• From: NG (@ ppp-70.ts-6.nyc.idt.net) on: Mon Jul 7 16:09:23 EDT 1997
  
  why not . music is universal , let the hindi guys appreciate the south ,after all SPB also sings in hindi, live and let live.
  
  
• From: cp (@ 208.206.24.27) on: Mon Jul 7 18:31:59 EDT 1997
  
  Do you think that Northies accepted Tamil singers? In fact, we have given more opportunities to them. I think that except SPB none of the tamil singers have sung in Hindi movies. Lata's voice in the song "valai osai" because the song got a hindi accent because of her voice. Once in a while it is good to hear songs like that.
  The song "Yamunai attrile eera kattrile" was very nicely sung in Dhalapathi by a hindi singer. I pray that Udit Narayanan will not be asked sing more songs in tamil. I could not resist his voice after I heard that song in "Kaadhalan". Sorry, I could not recollect the first line in this song. It is the song where Prabu Deva, SPB and Nagma sing together.
  
  Can anyone quote any instance where any other singer than SPB has sung in the north??
  
  
• From: Satish Subramanian (@ cs-line10.cs.umn.edu) on: Mon Jul 7 20:24:15 EDT 1997
  
  
  Many singers from South have sung in Hindi Some of them are (before A R Rahman):-
  
  1. P Susheela
  2. P B Sreenivas
  3. K J Yesudas
  4. S P Balasubramaniam
  5. Mano
  6. Chitra
  
  Yesudas was a big hit in Hindi.
  
  
  
• From: Rajaraman (@ 192.122.136.148) on: Mon Jul 7 20:50:31 EDT 1997
  
  S. Janaki has also sung few hindi songs.
  
  
• From: Aravind (@ 202.42.152.8) on: Wed Jul 16 23:59:58 EDT 1997
  
  Hello Guys!! What is going on?! Comparing Udit with SPB!! SPB Hindi paadinaa, Udit Tamil paaduvaanaa? SPB can sing anything. In fact it's enough if he talks. His voice is so sweet and caressing. I cannot comment on his Hindi pronounciation as I am not well-versed in Hindi. But his voice and expression are no different. (Eg. bahut pyar karthE hein - Saajan). Same is the case with KJY.
  
  Udit Narayan and Co have nothing. There is no reason why they should sing - be it any language. Did you hear Kumar Shanu's 'yammaa yammaa' from 'mannavaa'? What do you call that as? Hopeless.
  
  
• From: abasvram (@ 128.227.244.57) on: Fri Dec 26 00:53:19 EST 1997
  
  Sorry fellas but I think you guys are being needlessly harsh. Yes, SPB and KJY are beyond compare but don't belittle Udit. His pronounciation may be bad but his singing is on par. Its just that he doesn't get to sing many challenging songs. Besides there are others too suich as Abhijeet and Suresh Wadkar. Of course , Kumar Sanu is a national disgrace.
  
  
• From: Tamil man (@ tor2-15.yesic.com) on: Sun Mar 8 21:24:52 EST 1998
  
  Hello guys! I don't think too many hindi singers should sing for tamil movies. The industry (tamil) is already filling up with telgu, malayalam and kannada singers and actors, we don't need hindi personalities also. I personnel prefer tamil singers and actors in tamil film industry than "foriengers"
  
  
• From: Rajeevekrishnan (@ 202.54.36.171) on: Sat Mar 14 14:49:06 EST 1998
  
  The lobbying which blocked Yesudas's hindi music career ,really blocked the sweetness of hindi films.ie after Rafi and Kishore thus we lost
  the melody there.
  
  
• From: s.anand@sbb.ch (@ 147.78.4.225) on: Sat Jun 6 10:13:52 EDT 1998
  
  Yes, i also feel the same..like why should
  people who don't know thamizh..or atlest
  can't pronounce it properly should be
  allowed to sing..These days it's happening
  too much..almost singing like this..i.e without
  pronouncing properly has become a fashion and
  is being adopted by every music director..
  Of course in earlier days, this strategy was
  rarely used..and if used was with perfection and
  without irritating people who listen...
  
  Anand Subramanian
  
  
• From: ajay (@ milkyway.singnet.com.sg) on: Tue Jul 21 10:54:49 EDT 1998
  
  well i think tamil music and singers are the best!!There is nothing compared to ar rahman's music in the North and the voices of SPB,
  Unnikrishnan and Shahul Hameed,In short hindi singers and music sucks! I mean its very obvius that some of the hindi songs are shamelessly lifted from ARR;s tunes!
  
  
• From: test (@ spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jul 21 17:21:17 EDT 1998
  
  Test
  
  
• From: test (@ spider-wb024.proxy.aol.com) on: Tue Jul 21 17:21:38 EDT 1998
  
  Test
  
  
• From: easwaran hariharan (@ 170-86-178.ipt.aol.com) on: Tue Jul 21 21:28:11 EDT 1998
  
  There is no wrong in trying new voices, as long
  as it is not overdone, and to some extent it may
  be true in tamil film now. The problem is, TFM in
  general is very open to new things, and that is
  the reason singers like udit was moderately
  successful in tamil music, where giants like
  SPB, KYJ struggled in hindi.
  Coming to voice part, I dont think except
  sonu nigam ( varayie tholzi (jeans) ), others
  like udit, kumar sanu and others have any good
  thing to say, even in their own yard. I dont expect anything great from them, and I feel
  that Udit is a better choice for suresh peters for
  some songs, no less no more.
  
  e.hari
  
  
• From: Sandeep (@ 1cust10.tnt2.chi1.da.uu.net) on: Wed Jul 22 00:10:32 EDT 1998
  
  All we can ask, is that the singers pronounce clearly what they are singing. Half the time, I am forced to listen very carefully to the song, in order to comprehend the lyrics. For old Hindi and Tamil songs, I do not have the problem. IMO, songs have to be clear, too much of instruments which block the singers voice to be heard is regrettable. hey All this is my opion.
  
  
• From: mannAru (@ ns.arraycomm.com) on: Wed Jul 22 00:14:10 EDT 1998
  
  MakkalE:
  
  I feel the MD choses the playback singer, keeping in mind to which actor is going to be. Most of the udit songs are for Prabhu dEva. Still i don't justify udit's bad ucharippu. In ratchagan, ARR wanted a different voice i guess for the duplicate role. (May be he belongs to asaiva kAdhal. Kollufying all words in Tamil).
  
  
  
• From: Madhiazhagan (@ lr919-m1.ppp.temple.edu) on: Wed Jul 22 00:37:56 EDT 1998
  
  Yaaraavudhu Udit pathi edhavudhu sonnenge,
  avalavu thaan. He has a much sweeter voice than SPB anyday! What do you guys know of his other songs in the North??!!
  What bloody pronounciation?? Tamil film music is not worthy of any discussion in the first place.
  (Send your hate mail to rafiq@hotmail.com)
  
  
• From: badri raghavan (@ 206.103.12.125) on: Wed Jul 22 00:46:53 EDT 1998
  
  this is a traditional mindblock. people from north, west or east have great difficulty in accepting any other language other than their own. look at the number of north indians, sindhis and marwaris in chennai and if you speak to them they will say "namba wife romba bejar panrangopa" "namba paiyan sariyillapa" and so on, inspite of living here for decades. contrast this with the tamilians, telugus or malayalis in delhi or mumbai or even cal and you would find them speaking good local lingo. in film music itself take the case of hariharan who is very proficient in hindi and urdu.
  
  that probably explains why singers from elsewhere find it difficult to adapt to the delivery. in case of actors or actresses it is ok because they have somebody to give the voice but for singers there is no such option.
  
  if we can understand this, certainly MDs would be aware and inspite of this they are doing it, they would have their own reasons.
  
  i disagree with the contention that since spb and jesudas and vani jeyaram are not accepted in hfm we should retaliate. if the artiste's ucharippu is at par with the local artists then i think there is no reason why an opportunity should be denied. looking at this differently, there are hardly any tamilian singers in tfm. spb, sj, ps and mano are from andhra. jesudas, jeyachandran and chithra are from kerala. tms is a sourashtran. have they not given us wonderful melodies? surely, talent is welcome wherever that is from
  
  
• From: Shankar (@ webgate0.mot.com) on: Wed Jul 22 05:34:14 EDT 1998
  
  It's funny that people dislike udit bcos he's not pronouncing tamil words properly.Then u should also send Suresh peters and ARR packing.!
  Check suresh P in chicku bukku railu, Aslam Mustafa in "kalloori saalai" and ARR in Mustafa
  (...natpukkillai mutrupulliye...-there he pronounces puLLi as u pronouce 'l' in pul, vali etc(not as in kiLi- parrot)
  Singers are chosen for their voice and virtuosity in delivering the songs and not for good pronunciation of local language (though it also matters).
  I feel it's the MD's responsibility to correct them if they sing horribly.
  If u have noticed , Yesudas used sing "therukkoyile odivaa" and used to pronounce 'li' in kiLi as 'li' in puli. later he corrected his pronunciation.
  Nowadays MDs want tamil songs to sound western.So they make compromises with the pronunciation.
  I 'll stop with this otherwise i'll be blamed for starting another ARR bashing thread!!!
  
  
• From: bull (@ horus.erlm.siemens.de) on: Wed Jul 22 07:49:08 EDT 1998
  
  Hi Im new to this thread, sorry if I repeat
  anything.
  While Suresh Peters quite obviously mispronounces, one even has Unnikrishnan singing "pulveli pulveli thannil paniththuli paniththuli", that is pronouncing the "Li" as "li"! Then there is no point blaming singers like Udit!
  As for Udit he does have a great voice and sings well indeed, but after listening to "Sonia Sonia" from Ratchagan one doesnt necessarily want to hear him singing TF songs. I think LM in "vaLai Osai..." and AB in "sheNbagamE sheNbagamE..." did much more justice to pronunciation than Udit has done in so many songs of his till now. I think Udit is much better off singing "paapaa kehtE hain..." than "soniaa soniaa ..."
  But the fact remains that some of the south singers also have to be correct.
  I saw on TV (dont remember which channel) an interview with Sujata and I was surprised to know that she doesnt seem to know tamiz all that well at all. In fact she has a major accent while talking. One can never find out an accent in her singing though which goes to prove how much effort she puts into her singing. Thats the brighter side of it, isnt it?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 129.252.29.214) on: Wed Jul 22 12:24:07 EDT 1998
  
  i certainly believe that there are a lot of talented singers in the south itself.they can also be made to
  sing in a western accent if needed. then why do we need these guys from bollywood to come here all
  the way and mess up the songs? there are thousands of singers waiting to be discovered in
  madras.ditto in the case of film actresses also. is it a fashion to make udit, sadhana sargam etc. kill
  tamil lyrics ?
  
  

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