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Why Ilayaraja's Music Does Not Appeal to the Younger Generation

Topic started by Gowri (@ 161.142.100.86) on Tue Mar 19 01:02:59 EST 2002.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

I have always wondered this.
If age factor is the issue, how is it that Deva who should be the in the same age group, is able to command quite a following?
Please do not insult the yonger generation by refering to deteriorating music taste.

Although there are some youngsters who prefer Ilayaraja, the number is very small.
Most youngsters prefer ARR, Deva, HJ, SAR, Vidhyasagar, etc.

Generally Ilayaraja's genre of music do not seem to hold the younger crowd. Why do you think this is?

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• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Thu Mar 21 07:22:13 EST 2002
  
  Juan Pablo Montoya (@ 194.85.200.36):
  
  Fantastic answers!! Keep it up!!
  
  Personally I feel there is NO GENRE of music that ARR cannot touch. I feel the same for IR also and even for Salil Chaudhary or MSV. If ARR isnt giving too many pure Carnatic songs, its becoz many people have started ignoring such music. Western music is in vogue and "desi music" is considered "outdated". But that has nothing to do with ARR's (or IR's) abilities.
  
  His score in Lagaan again has proved what a genius he is and all his forthcoming films will.
  
  Having said that let me tell you that I am myself only 21 years of age and I adore the music of IR...esp his 70s and early 80s songs. I also adore many composers in various regional languages whose work was at its peak in the 50s and 60s. This IR-ARR bickering is quite irrelevant and is being repeated on too many threads with too many personal attacks.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.188.167) on: Thu Mar 21 07:32:41 EST 2002
  
  ROTFL's sister (@ 141.131.128.22)
  
  Ekko!Ungala yaaru avuthuttaa? :)
  
  just wonderin (@ 63.215.114.131)
  
  Now, you are putting the blame on me for the world's population? :)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.188.167) on: Thu Mar 21 07:37:16 EST 2002
  
  twilight_zone
  You remind me of the bible toting preacher in my neighbourhood. He will claim that Jesus is the only way to God and if asked why, he will quote his bible.
  
  Athey logic thaan ungaloada logic. You started out by saying that ARR's songs are 95% youth-oriented, and when given examples of movies that were not, you have twisted the entire thing and claim IR has done a lot of youth songs.
  
  Visu kitte assistant-a velai paarkareengalaa? :)
  
  
• From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Thu Mar 21 08:31:37 EST 2002
  
  Everyone here might want to know tat ROTFL is an IR Fan.
  
  "In real life, I am very much a IR fan! :)
  And have defended him like nobody's business...! :)"
  
  Source: http://newtfmpage.com/forum/24456.21.55.33.html#last
  
  
  
• From: Aadhavan (@ 203.106.188.167) on: Thu Mar 21 08:39:17 EST 2002
  
  et tu P? :(
  
  
• From: mahabs (@ 203.197.138.163) on: Thu Mar 21 09:20:03 EST 2002
  
  i am really surprised that this thread is attracting such serious discussions. gowri's only aim is provoking ir fans. whether they are hard core or soft core.
  
  why should anyone bother about adulations of ir? if you are a fan of somebody, you can also start threads like these and you can find like-minded people always such as:
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/6302.04.57.19.html
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/17374.10.51.50.html
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/19229.23.32.57.html
  
  others can avoid such threads if they don't like them!
  
  instead of crying like 'jing chakka', 'thalayil thukki vachu adarathu'. you claim to be saner than hcirf, then why do you want to correct such fellows? you kind of doing part time psychiatrists?
  
  anbudan
  mahabs
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 09:23:01 EST 2002
  
  ROTFL..
  i've never realised Aadhavan was u!! :)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 09:36:15 EST 2002
  
  maanbu miga mahabs avargale
  Neengal yaaridam pesikondirukareergal? :)
  
  magix
  Not my fault. :)
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 09:38:55 EST 2002
  
  i also never realised the word was Aadhavan! (what's the meaning??)..
  i kept reading it as aalavandaan!!!
  my mom's right...
  i neeeeeed to get my eyes checked! :)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 09:39:47 EST 2002
  
  mahabs
  hardcore softcore?
  you turn of the TV now, I say! :)
  
  Nobody bothers about adulations. But while being high on adulations, some people tend to get carried away and start bashing other artistes.
  And that;s when the fun begins. :)
  
  As to why this thread is drawing a lot of discussion, it is because the carpet is being pulled from underneath. :)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 09:41:49 EST 2002
  
  Aadhavan means "The Wise One"
  Not that you are going to know whether I am telling the truth. :)
  
  ps, it actually means The Sun (not son of gun!) :)
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 09:42:15 EST 2002
  
  sorry, ROTFL..
  but i guess it's turn off!
  ;)
  ennapa mailze kaanum??
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 09:53:07 EST 2002
  
  Aadhavan is a turn-off?
  Paavam thamizh. :(
  
  Mails vanthaa reply netchayam varum. :)
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 09:57:20 EST 2002
  
  nooo, i mean u turn off the TV
  not turn of the tv!!!
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 10:00:46 EST 2002
  
  ayyoa, athaan exams ezhuthura pasangala ellaam post panna vida koodaathu engirathu. :)
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 10:04:55 EST 2002
  
  thappu kandupidikka koodathe!
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 10:07:17 EST 2002
  
  A local television conducted a poll recently for newly married couples and their favourite songs. Here are the findings:
  
  NO SONG MOVIE COUNT
  
  1 Vaseghara Minnale 7491
  2 Nee Thaan En Desiya Parthaley Paravasam 5547
  3 Poove Vai Pesum 12B 5516
  4 Malai kaatru Vanthu Vedham 5433
  5 Mudher Kanave Majnu 5187
  6 Manasukkul Star 4187
  7 Kadhal Sollvathu Badri 3597
  8 Kathal Aararo Narashimma 3404
  9 Kannaley Meiyya Meiyya Alithantha Vaanam 3044
  10 Thanguma Kanakkalin Asoka 2189
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 10:17:27 EST 2002
  
  Y did u post this S??
  pls dont say Ynot!
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 10:21:18 EST 2002
  
  Isn't this relevant to the thread, magix?
  
  
• From: magix (@ 203.199.231.102) on: Thu Mar 21 10:24:47 EST 2002
  
  oh yeah...
  *a grin that says "God.. shrink me!" *
  sorry!!
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Mar 21 10:31:29 EST 2002
  
  Why Ilayaraja's Music Does Not Appeal to the Younger Generation??
  
  Who told u this, Gowri?
  
  Well, I am 25 & young (I hope so, he he), I have been listening to IR since Annakizhi to kasi, I grew up listening to IR/MSV/KVM/SPB/KJY/SJ/PS/Jeyachandran, I am an amateur singer in UK, in my music band, most of the youngsters prefer old IR/MSV songs to sing in stage shows, we are very broad minded people, we sing lots of ARR songs as well, but IR songs have some sort of emotional effects, especially the ones sung by SPB, most people follow the "Old is Gold" rule.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 10:31:42 EST 2002
  
  you are pardoned magix.
  there is so much digression in this thread, that when something relevant comes, many think THAT is a digression. :)
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 10:34:27 EST 2002
  
  well raghu, one sparrow does not make a summer. :)
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Mar 21 10:36:33 EST 2002
  
  ROTFL;
  
  well, I suppose so.
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 210.186.51.119) on: Thu Mar 21 10:41:37 EST 2002
  
  You're welcome Raghu :)
  
  
• From: Saran (@ 164.164.46.20) on: Fri Mar 22 00:41:28 EST 2002
  
  Why Ilayaraja's Music Does Not Appeal to the Younger Generation???!! - Because it's meant for those who want to hear the REAL music. Only matured people can understand what a real music is? In the younger age, u cant differentiate between a synthesised music that attracts u for a while and a good music that mesmerises u forever. Grow up, kids!!! U will definitely know how good IR's music is!
  
  
• From: Juan Pablo Montoya (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Fri Mar 22 01:29:42 EST 2002
  
  Anyone who is here should check out certain posts in "Are u a HCIRF"? Entertainment to the full.. Man.. this is the height of frustration or what? These days newtfmpage.com has only 'arai dousers and kiddos' whilst all the learned and the wise have left.. sob sob.. Guys, all u neutral and arr fans, time to pack up your bags and go http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/10261.10.44.46.html" target="_blank">here.. Since, all the learned people will never return, unless we let them carry on their rituals unopposed..kindly heed this or thee shall burn in hell without HIS divine blessings...
  "Nothing like them Ol Times, Ye Folks!"
  *****Sorry for the peeping tom business.. but that thread is surely funny... or shud we have a new thread to ourselves?****
  
  
• From: Juan Pablo Missed The Podium Again (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Fri Mar 22 01:33:37 EST 2002
  
  ***bigger digression than the previous post**
  sorry.. html seems to have mind of its own.. somehow didnt work well, as u can see.. Surely what can u expect from a arai douser like me..?
  
  
• From: Juan Pablo Missed the Pole Again.. this time with html (@ 194.85.200.36) on: Fri Mar 22 01:33:58 EST 2002
  
  ***bigger digression than the previous post**
  sorry.. html seems to have mind of its own.. somehow didnt work well, as u can see.. Surely what can u expect from a arai douser like me..?
  
  
• From: Gowri (@ 61.6.38.132) on: Fri Mar 22 01:50:04 EST 2002
  
  Most people's imapct in music comes when they are young. It is sort of the music they grew up on. Therefore "music for mature people" do not hold water. Music is for everybody.
  
  When one loses appeal, the best saving grace would be to claim exclusivity. :)
  
  Going by the list ROTFL provided above, it can be easily seen what is popular among the youth of today.
  
  
• From: avr (@ 143.127.3.10) on: Fri Mar 22 02:07:35 EST 2002
  
  >>> but IR songs have some sort of emotional effects, especially the ones sung by SPB, <<<
  
  The gist of Raghu's post is always SPB...i remember there was a thread on the forumhub about who is a better singer Lata or Asha. And Raghu's response was "spb is better than rafi". ROTFL!!
  
  So even here though the thread asks: "why IRs music doesnt appeal to younger people?", he directly or indirectly refers to SPB.
  
  
• From: Saran (@ 164.164.46.20) on: Fri Mar 22 02:44:32 EST 2002
  
  Gowri, u miss the point!! Do u think that a kid or a young guy, can easily understand the great carnatic music???!! It's a kind of music that u can hear if u know it or atleast understand it!!!
  
  And reg the list given by ROTFL, it changes as time goes by....
  
  When KM( kadhalukku Mariyaathai ) got released, Ennai Thaalaata Varuvaalo was everyone's MOST WANTED SONG!!!! Can u deny that point??? Does it still mean IR lost his younger gen crowd??? If he does the same sort of song, surely the crowd will again cheer up!! For that he has to do that sort of films! U cant expect the same kind of song in movies like kutty and kasi!!!!
  
  

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