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Is Rahman Village, Carnatic and Background Musically Challenged?

Topic started by Bhagavathar (@ 209.43.73.97) on Sun Oct 29 01:31:55 EDT 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

A great music director should be known for his/her trick on all trades when it comes to music. But AR Rahman is good only in recording crystal clear music. As far other areas are concerned he had failed miserably. Listen to all his village oriented songs same type of digital music. Even Deva and SAR do better job than him. What about BGM he plays the songs repeatedly. Deva does a better job atleast copying from Titanic or BraveHeart. What happened to songs based out of Raagas there also he lacks knowledge. What about his singing style man. Drs recommend his "Vandemataram" to clear Constibation than bringing out patriotism.

Discuss this fake, self promoting and copying star and remove his masquerade.

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• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.194) on: Fri Nov 3 13:26:46 EST 2000
  
  ...as if the people in this thread are going to debate and concur on whether or not ARR is challenged and then unanimously pass a resolution to reinvigorate Tamil film music. You guys are having the same fun of showing off and opponent bashing in every thread and we guys have our fun here
  
  Ganga/maanga,
  Whatever the hell your name is, I take issue with your above statement. I find value in debates. If you don't have the inclination for topical discussions, get on a chatroom with your chums and discuss what you had for lunch or how you like to cross dress. Like it or not this is a discussion thread? Why don't we turn it into a crap shoot where every idiot brings his friend along and converses in retarded Thanglish? Just because you find no value in a thread doesn't give you the license to denigrate it.
  
  Believe it or not, we were actually getting somewhere before you started this moronic banter. If you find discussions aggravating, I find your self-proclaimed humor beyond aggravating.
  
  
• From: kadakaran (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Fri Nov 3 13:31:35 EST 2000
  
  thambi...udhaya sirku oru "cool" drink..koudpA...
  
  
  
  
• From: Thenkaa (@ 216.34.244.105) on: Fri Nov 3 13:42:34 EST 2000
  
  Uthaya should be given Nobel prize for finding values in the Discussion.
  
  
• From: Ganga (@ 129.253.193.7) on: Fri Nov 3 13:43:00 EST 2000
  
  Relax udhaya, You are definitely an excellent debater with a good vocabulary of words like hell, chums, crossing dresses, crap, idiot,retarded, moronic. Shows how tolerant you are to the others point of view. Surprising that you were actually getting to something with this very amiable exchange of ideas. Do you think we were very different from your discussion on Bose systems and 2000 watts fundas?
  swamiji, nallaa thoongineengaLaa?
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.194) on: Fri Nov 3 14:02:15 EST 2000
  
  Shows how tolerant you are to the others point of view.
  
  I'm very tolerant of others point of view, tolerance and agreement are different things. When you disrupt a thread because you don't believe what is being discussed there, then I don't have to tolerate your fascism.
  
  The exchange between Dorai and I were at least attempts at clarifying our points and getting at the theme of this thread. What is your point here?
  
  Your stance is that if you find no value in a thread, you will go in there and mock it as you please. Is this how you want a public discussion forum to function? If you do, then we're basically very different in our value systems and no further exchange is needed between us.
  
  
• From: seedan (@ 216.190.255.35) on: Fri Nov 3 14:16:23 EST 2000
  
  thambi...
  udhaya sirku innum oru "cool" drink..koudpA...
  apidye ganga sirukum oru mazaaaa...
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Nov 3 14:24:24 EST 2000
  
  Ching Chak Ching Chak....
  Thambi udhaya, nokku nobel prize kadachiduthaame?? Magaraasana irukkanum nee...
  hmmm...u know what, if we seriously think why do we need debates? Usually a debate without a referee ends in something like this. In this case, if we had someone to manage a debate, he will get smashed too. Sometimes we fight, if we dont stop to think that this 20000 number is possible/impossible, but keep thinking that it is indeed possible.
  Once, I was arriving at madras central station with periyavar, when these two seedargal fought. This fight started when one seedar said to another that he saw St.Thomas mount on the way! The other said "Thats Impossible!!". Without reasoning it out, they both fought!!! We all know that trains coming to Central dont pass St.Thomas mount (for others that dont know this fact)...But you know what? The other seedar still thinks he is right...
  Adunaala, it is alright for people to have differing views....but that is not going to stop us from changing our views becoz others feel it is right...so nanbargalaa, please dont fight! Have fun in this world and enjoy music seriya?!!!
  
  
  
• From: Ganga (@ 129.253.193.7) on: Fri Nov 3 14:28:34 EST 2000
  
  Dear Friend Udhaya,
  See the following two posts in this very same thread. Remember them..?
  From: Udhaya (@ 207.218.69.42) on: Tue Oct 31 14:44:40 EST 2000
  
  .....I have not taken a cheap shot at anybody nor have I made degrading remarks personally here. What do I need to tone down? When a thread is started with the sole purpose of ridiculing an artist(and that too without facts or logic) and a parade of irrelevant posts follow in support, what am I supposed to tone down? This thread is cheesy, Swiss cheesy to be precise for all the holes in it.
  
  From: Udhaya (@ 207.218.69.9) on: Tue Oct 31 17:52:27 EST 2000
  ...........
  Well, this is more than enough time I wanted to spend on an expendable thread. Time to listen to some music.
  
  Those were your own words about this thread. Suddenly how does that become so valuable. Consistency problem.. huh?
  
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Nov 3 14:28:48 EST 2000
  
  Yenakku konjam theertham kudunga paa. Thaagama irukku ...
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Nov 3 14:31:08 EST 2000
  
  Idhu thevayaa? abhirami abhirami....
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Nov 3 14:33:28 EST 2000
  
  Aana Udhaya thambikku "Claps " pannungo...avar nalla pesaraar!
  
  
• From: lottu (@ 38.219.83.254) on: Fri Nov 3 14:34:12 EST 2000
  
  Change the thread title to Udhaya vs. Ganaga
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.194) on: Fri Nov 3 14:43:00 EST 2000
  
  Ganga,
  I was pointing out the lack of logic in the arguments and debated it. Whether those guys were illogical or not we were at least arguing about the theme and the validity of the statements made about the theme.
  
  What you and your fellow clowns are doing is entirely detached from what this thread is about. There's a big difference between finding value in a statement and debating it and violating the parameters of what a discussion forum is about. I had a logical difference with the other guys. I have an ethical difference with you. The supporters of this thread undermined logic, what you're doing is undermining the function of a democratic public forum. If you want, we can debate this offline.
  
  
• From: Ganga (@ 129.253.193.7) on: Fri Nov 3 14:48:38 EST 2000
  
  Guys, Do not misunderstand me. I am no match for Udhaya. My intention is not to mock anybody but to show how these threads lose their objectivity and become kozaayadi sandai because of intolerant arguments and denigrating remarks. I do not want to demonstrate one. My sincere apologies to MusicFan and Udhaya if I had affected their sensitivity. I quit.
  
  
• From: Manga (@ 208.154.130.13) on: Fri Nov 3 14:56:37 EST 2000
  
  Ganga and Swamiji
  
  Udhaya thambi indha paattu sariya irukku paarunga
  
  Poiya Poiya ulagam perisu
  nee oru podi dabba
  indha topic boreappa
  
  (illaina)
  
  annathe ezhudharaar othikko othikko
  america singam dhaan othukko othukko
  ARR pakkam meyum kurambaadu
  indha topic valarndhadhaan saapadu
  seeruna seeruvaar
  meeruna meeruvaar
  
  
• From: Manga (@ 208.154.130.13) on: Fri Nov 3 14:59:31 EST 2000
  
  Ganga
  
  Naan appave sonnEn ille. Anavasayama indha forum perusunga kittE pesadhennu. Ennodu advice keLu. Indha foruthil nee ezhudhinumnaa oru marakkattai maadhiri irukkunam. Evan vena koovikittu pottam. Nee pattukku ezudhu maa.
  
  Naan encourage panren.
  
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 63.89.188.194) on: Fri Nov 3 15:03:17 EST 2000
  
  Ganga,
  I wish my points could have been made without heated words, I apologize too. Sorry I had to be harsh, but bb and chandy tried to stop this deviation and it didn't work. You may not find value in debates or disagreements but ignoring the basic tenets of a discussion forum will create an "anything goes" atmosphere that has ruined so many public forums. Despite recent plummet in standards, I would like to preserve what little focus and integrity this discussion forum has. Thanks.
  
  
• From: Swamiji (@ 198.102.112.201) on: Fri Nov 3 15:05:21 EST 2000
  
  Ganga...poittiyaa!! Naanum un kooda vaaren!! Udhaya - enjoy yourself debating, mocking, logicifying, and democratizing in this forum :) We all appreciate your generous work here, keep the good work going!
  & Take it easy man...logic is good if we all benefit from it. apparenty, this logic is not understood by many in this forum, nor does it seem too important to change "seasons" in this planet called earth...you have an excellent way with words - but it has failed to convince....
  Ching Chak Ching Chak...
  
  
  
• From: Ganga (@ 129.253.193.7) on: Fri Nov 3 15:14:12 EST 2000
  
  Dear Udhaya and others,
  I am not an expert on debate and going by your posts it looks like neither are you. But according to my common sense, if in a debate you want to have fun at the cost of the other guy just go all out for it like the way we did. Or if you want to really make the other guy listen and win him over make your arguments impersonal and polite. For that, you guys need to weed out vocabularies like clown/banter/crap etc. I am not blaming you, but look at any of your posting. It is filled with egocentric statements. You may disagree but ask anyone. So is your opposition. How do you expect to exchange ideas here. And what big value would that debate be. It is mere show off. I quit really now. Please do not answer me. Answer yourself.
  
  
• From: sadhaya (@ 63.26.213.92) on: Fri Nov 3 15:21:25 EST 2000
  
  pacha coloru chinghu cha vella coloru chingu cha
  
  

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