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Favorite analogies in TFM

Topic started by Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on Thu May 7 17:55:45 EDT 1998.
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Hi guys,

I recently discovered this page and have been contributing extensively ever since. How about a permanent thread for discussing famous analogies: metaphors, similies, expressions, ironies, etc. in Tamil songs? For example: this would be a thread where I will share my favorite analogy for a smile, "Kaiyalavu Pazhutha Maathulai, Paalil
Neyalavu Padarntha Punnagai" from "Vizhiyilae Malarnthathu" written by Panchu Arunachalam.

As great as the discussion topics are in this site, I feel lyrics and song writers should get more attention.

A fan forever,
Udhaya
udhayak@yahoo.com

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Responses:

• From: Neels (@ ppp3-120.bom.vsnl.net.in) on: Thu May 7 22:58:35 EDT 1998
  
  Yes, why not?
  Guess even the most absurd similies (like Digitallin sedukkia kural, Elizabet Tailor Magal...) will also find their place here...
  
  One song which comes to my mind instantly is "Azhage Azhagu Devathai" from RAja PArvai.. Every line is a simili. Who is the lyricist?
  
  Neels
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-wa06.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri May 8 00:45:55 EDT 1998
  
  Neels:
  The rAjapArvai song azhagE azhagu was penned by kaNNadhAsan.
  
  Topic:
  Some of the classic descriptions from AlayamaNi starting with kamban kaNda seedhai undhan thAi allavA and one in a similar vein oru puRam pArththAl midhilaiyin mythili from apoorva rAgangaL. The other classic is the pallavi of malarndhu malarAdha pAdhi malar pOla from pAsamalar.
  
  Another varuNanai:
  allith thaNdu pOlavE
  thuLLi Adum mEniyai
  veLLi nilA aLLik koNdadhO
  adhil puLLi mayil paLLi koNdadhO
  (nilavum malarum pAdudhu from thEnilavu)
  
  And, how can this be forgotten?
  AgAyap pandhalilE pon oonjal AdudhammA
  (ponnoonjal)
  
  One more about the moon:
  mAmAvin poNNukku AgAya mEgangaL
  sElai kattip pArkkudhu AsaiyOdu
  nAn pArkkak koodAdha pollAdha vAnaththil
  mAman magaL pOgudhu nANaththOdu
  (sandhanaththil nalla vAsam eduththu from prAptham)
  
  A metaphorical reference using the moon from Ramu:
  nilavE ennidam nerungAdhE
  nee ninaikkum idaththil nAn illai
  ...........
  moodiya mEgam kalaiyum munnE
  nee pAda vandhAyO veNNilavE
  
  A metaphorical expression depicting the hero's utter dejection:
  enadhu kaigaL meettum pOdhu veeNai azhugindRadhu
  enadhu kaNgaL thazhuvum pOdhu malarum sudugindRadhu
  (engE nimmadhi from pudhiya paRavai)
  
  A metaphorical reference to the poor-little-rich-boy-hero by the heroine:
  kalaimagaL kaipporuLE unnai gavanikka ALillaiyO
  vilai illA mALigaiyil unnai meettavum viral illaiyO
  (vasantha mALigai)
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ host17.globalcenter.net) on: Fri May 8 03:30:52 EDT 1998
  
  Kanchana, thanks a lot for bringing to mind all these treasures. Especially the excerpt from "Nilavum Malarum", it was exquisite.
  
  I have some more:
  
  "Vellinilave vilakkai erium kadalthan engal veedu"
  (Vaali from "Karai mel pirakkavaithan" in Padagotti)
  
  "Vizhigal medaiyam imaigal thiraigalam
  Paarvai naadagam arangil aerutham"
  (T.Rajendar from the movie Kilinjalgal)
  
  "Thalaiyai virithu thennai poradutho
  aethanai ninaithu elaneeraadutho
  Kanni unnai kandathaalo
  Thannai ennikondathaalo"
  (Kannadhasan from "Iyarkayennum" in Santhi Nilayam)
  
  
• From: Manisekaran (@ wmu-53-199.tm.net.my) on: Fri May 8 12:03:45 EDT 1998
  
  1.From Amuthavalli
  Aadai katti vantha nilavo-kannil
  Medai katti aadum ezhilo-kulir
  Odayil mithakkum malar jaadayil sirikkum
  ival vittu vantha mayilo-nenjil
  koodu katti vaazhum kuyilo..
  
  anti mayil petra magalo-kulungum
  alli malar inathavalo-kunril
  unthi vizhum neeralayil odi vilayadi manam
  sinthi varum thenral thaano-inbam
  thanthu magizhginra mano
  
  2. From Neey Naana
  kayil edutha vaaLai Iraivan
  kaNNil padaithAnE-pOr
  kaLangaL kaNDa kaaLai unadhu
  kaNNil vizhunthEnE..
  
  3.From Kalaikkoyil
  thanga ratham vanthathu veethiyilE
  oru thaLir mEni vanthathu theriniley
  maragatha thOraNam asainthaada-nalla
  maNikka mAlaikaL kavi pAda
  
  sevviLaneerin kaN thiranthu
  semmaathuLayin maNivaai piLanthu
  muLaividum sennel kOlamittu
  moovar ula vantha kaalangaL pOla
  
  mAngani kannathil thEnooRa-siru
  maivizhi kinnathil meenaada
  thEn tharum vAzhaigaL pOrAda
  deviyin ponmEni thaLLAda Ada...
  
  4. From Thayillaa Pillai
  koodi vantha mEgamenRu koonthalai thottAr-vaNNa
  kuvaLai pOla malarnthathenRu kaNakaLai thottAr
  Odivantha kanikaLenRu ithazhkaLai thottar-thyottaal
  odiyumenRu idaiyai mattum thodamalEy vittaar....
  
  maanmakaLE enRu azhaithAr -ennai
  madiyil vaithu vaarthai padithaar
  maambazham pOl kannamenRu solli mudithaar-naan
  vaai thiRanthu pEsavanthEn onRu koduthar-onru koduthaar..
  (Thotta kaikal thavazhnthathadi pattu pOley)
  
  5. From Neethikku Pin Paasam
  maanallavO kaNkaL thanthathu
  mayilallavO sAyal thanthathu
  thEnallavO ithazhai thanthathu
  silaiyallavO azhagai thanthathu...
  
  thekku maram udalai thanthathu
  sinna yaanai nadaiyai thanthathu
  pookkaLellaam sirippai thanthathu
  ponnallavO niRathai thanthathu
  
  6. From Thai Sollai ThattathEy.
  salasalakkum aruviyakka malaiyilEy-thAvi
  sathiraattam pOdukiRaL tharaiyilEy
  kalakalakkum iyarkaiyamma madiyilEy-avaL
  kaN mayamgi OdukiRaaL vazhiyilEy...
  
  ThendRalennum kuthirayilEy oorvalamaam-maankaL
  seervarisai thaangivarum vaaganamaam
  mangaLamAi moongililEy naaNayamaam-pachai
  vaazhaiyudan mAvilaiyum thOraNamAm..
  (kattukkuLLey thiruvizha)
  
  7. from Kaakkum karangaL
  gnayiRu enbathu kaNNaka
  thingaL enbathu oeNNaaga
  sevvai kOvai pazhamaaga
  sErnthEy nadappOm azhagaaga.
  
  8. from Panakkara Kudumbam
  sittu vizhi veesi muthu mozhi pEsi
  sinnamayil MaRantuvittaaL
  sengarumbu chARum thennai iLaneeRum
  thantha mayil paRanthuvittaaL
  vaNNa ratham kANa vanthiruntha mannan
  vaanaratham senRuvittaan
  ponniruntha madiyai pooviruntha kodiyai eNNi eNNi thEdikiRAn
  (athai makaL rathinathai)
  
  9. from Thazhamboo
  ErikaRai OrathilEy
  ettu vELi nilamirukku
  ettu vELi nilathilEyum enna vaithaal thOppAgum?
  
  vaazhai vaithaal thOppaagum
  manjal vaithaal pinju vidum
  AzhamAga uzhuthu vaithaal
  athanaiyum ponaagum
  
  thenpuRathu seemayiley
  then kumari kadalirukku
  kumarikkadal moozhgi vanthaal
  koodaiyilEy enna varum?
  
  saranjaramaai muthu varum
  thani pavaLam sErnthu varum
  kumariyudam kalanthuvittaaal
  kudumbathilum Asai varum...
  
  10. from vidivelli
  kaNNukkuL minnal vettai kaattukinRa kaNNamma
  kaNNathil apple vanthu kaaithiruppathennamma?
  
  11. from Thaikku Pin thaaram-(hitting at the urban artificial lifestyle)
  kaattu rANi kOttaiyilEy
  kathavukaL illai- ingu
  kaaval kaakkka kadavuLai inRi oruvarumillai
  kaatti kaatti maRaithukkoLLum suyanalamillai
  ..
  
  mEgamenRa thanthai kaNNil
  neer vazhinthathu! ingEy
  vithavithamaai kuzhanthaikaL pOl sedi vaLarnthathu
  boomi enRa thAi madiyil thavazhnthu vanthathu
  noyil pulambukinRa manitharukkum marunthu thanthathu...
  
  
  11. from Kuzhanthaikkaka
  
  thai mAtha mEgam
  athu tharaiyil Aduthu
  
  12. From Muthu maNdapam
  KankaL iraNdil kaNai thoduthaaL
  karu naagam ena pinnalittaaL
  kuRunagai ennum visham koduthaaL
  uyir KoNduvittaaL ennai
  venRuvittaal
  (kodiyavaLey poongodiyavaLEy)
  
  13. From iruvar Ullam
  panneerpoo pOnRa pArvaiyum-netri
  parappinilEy muthaana vervayum
  pinni varum naanamennum pOrvaiyum
  sutri pinnalitta koonthalennum thOgaiyum koNdu-inRu kannethirey thOnRinaaL
  
  14. from Ragasiya POlice 115
  oru naal nilavai eduthu un udal amaithAno
  pala naaL muyanRu vAnavil koNdu nal vaNNam seithAno?
  (kaNNey kaniyey muthey maNiyey arukil vaa)
  
  
  NEELS, UDAYA, KANCHANA:
  
  Am I in the right track?
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Bharat (@ dsi.mids.com) on: Fri May 8 13:18:00 EDT 1998
  
  One interesting aspect about the song "Ponmaalai Pozhuthu..." by Vairamuthu. At first he personifies the sky as feminine:
  Vaana MagaL NaaNugiraaL, Veru Udai pooNugiraaL
  
  Later, the sky becomes an "it":
  Vaanam enakkoru Bodhi Maram, Naalum Enakk "Athu" Seithi Tharum
  
  I found the first comparison (analogy?) beautiful, the changing of the sky's colors can indeed be compared to a woman wearing different clothes. But I couldn't really get the point of the second one.
  
  
• From: Udhaya (@ 205.218.142.217) on: Fri May 8 13:39:23 EDT 1998
  
  Manisekaran, you are absolutely on track. Thanks for all these classics, what a memory. It must have taken you an hour to type all this. If you could, please include the songwriter's name in the future excerpts.
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tc03.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri May 8 20:50:30 EDT 1998
  
  Udhaya:
  Your descriptor "exquisite" is so apt for the allith thaNdu pOlavE from thEnilavu; that verse is from the song chinna chinna kNNilE. I think kaNNadhAsan penned the lyrics for all the songs I listed above.
  
  Manisekaran:
  Thank you for reminding us of all those songs, especially Adai katti vandha nilavO. Beautiful song by TRMahalingam(?) Who was the MD for that movie?
  thanga radham vandhadhu is one of my all-time TFM favorites. Besides the lyrics, the execution of AbOgi by MSV, BMK's voice and PS's voice all add to this song.
  
  Bharat:
  I too have often wondered about the lines you've mentioned from the IR-VM classic idhu oru pon mAlaippozhudhu.
  In the lines vAna magaL nANugiRAL, vERu udai pooNugiRAL VM is obviously referring to the changing colors of the evening sky. In the lines vAnam enakkoru bOdhi maram, nALum enakkoru sEdhi tharum, does VM use vAnam as a symbolic reference to the world under it and the vast Universe beyond? Is he implying that the Universe/world around offers a new truth each day leading to enlightenment of sorts??!!
  
  To Topic:
  Another set of mataphors used by Vairamuththu to describe the agony of separation in a simple nAttuppuRap pAdal from thirudA thirudA (1990s):
  
  nAn thandha malligaiyai nattAththil pOttu vittu
  araLip pooch choodi azhudhapadi pORavaLE
  ...
  karuvElam kAttukkuLLE karichchAn kuruvi oNNu
  s(r)udhi mARik kaththudhammA thuNaiyaththAn kANOmunnu
  ----
  
  Vairamuththu's varuNanai from dEvarAgam (1990s):
  karuniRa vaNdugaL undhan kuzhalgaL
  undhan netRi mugaththin aNikalangaL
  mARanin ambugaL un puruvam
  neelORpanangaL un vizhigaL
  
  Vali's varuNanai from ulagam sutRum vAliban (1970s):
  nilavu oru peNNAgi ulavugindRa azhagO
  neeralaigaL idam mARi neendhugindRa kuzhalO
  mAdhuLaiyin poo pOlE malarugindRa idhazhO
  mAninamum meeninamum mayangugindRa vizhiyO
  
  Vali's varuNanai from paNam padaiththavan (1960s):
  pavaLak kodiyilE muththukkaL kOrththAl
  punnagai endRE pEr Agum
  kanni Oviyam uyir koNdu vandhAl
  peNmai endRE pEr Agum
  
  Vali's varuNanai from kAdhal dhEsam (1990s) just for a reference:-)
  kaNgaL silicon graphics etc etc
  
  More later....
  
  
• From: Kanchana (@ ww-tj06.proxy.aol.com) on: Fri May 8 22:04:23 EDT 1998
  
  Back to kaviyarasar kaNNadhAsan...
  
  The intricate wordplay around the analogies in this verse from thOL kaNdEn in "idhayakkamalam" makes it worth repeating again:
  thEdi vandha thingaL
  thingaLil chevvAi
  chevvAiyil veLLi
  sErththeduththEn aLLi
  
  An equally intricate wordplay around analogies from pArththEn siriththEn from veera abhimanyu:
  kodith thEn ini engaL kudith thEn
  ena oru padith thEn pArvaiyil kudiththEn
  oru thuLi thEn sindhAmal kaLiththEn
  
  The following duet is done in a question-answer format; each verse is a comparison. Movie: kAththirundha kaNgaL
  kAtRu vandhAl thalai sAyum?.....nANal
  kAdhal vandhAl thalai sAyum?.....nANam
  
  AtRinilE karai puraLum?....veLLam
  AsaiyilE karai puraLum?....uLLam
  
  Adai thottu viLayAdum?.....thendRal
  Asai thottu viLayAdum?.....kaNgaL
  
  In the following song kaNNadhAsan uses comparisons aptly to suit the situation, where a husband comforts his phsically handicapped wife. Movie: ellAm unakkAga (The husband's lines are italicised)
  
  malarum kodiyum peN enbAr
  madhiyum nadhiyum peN enbAr
  
  malarum kodiyum nadappadhillai!
  avai maNam thara endRum maRappadhillai!
  
  kOvilil viLangum silai pOlE
  en kulaththil viLangum thirumagaLE
  
  kOvil silaigaL nadappadhillai!
  adhaik kuRai enak kalaigaL veRuppadhillai!
  
  thEn maNam kamazhum poomagaLE
  en sindhayil malarndha thAmaraiyE
  
  thAmarai malarum nadappadhillai!
  adhaith thazhuvum kadhiravan veRuppadhillai!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

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