Topic started by tigger (@ 205.219.204.23) on Wed Nov 21 15:45:39 EST 2001.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.
top ten reasons why IR is better than ARR:
1. Raja's music is like a 5-course meal but he prepares it like fast food. Rahman's music is like fast food but he prepares it like a 5-course meal.
2. Raja's music is like Coke - the real thing. Take it or leave it - but think of tinkering around with it to make it more palatable and fans would be horrified (people familiar with New Coke's disastrous introduction in 1985 and it's subsequent withdrawal will understand better what I mean). Rahman's music is like Pepsi, definitely the choice of a new generation, but coke fans will never really understand what it is that people like about Pepsi - ughh!.
3. Raja can compose a tune at the drop of a hat, but the song is so unique and the various sounds blend so well that you feel as if God intended the song to be that way and there is no way you will accept it any way else. Rahman takes ages to give that right 'impromptu' touch to his songs - and changing most of his tunes (very few of his songs are pretty good and therefore fit the do-not-change criteria) will not cause me to lose much sleep.
4. Raja's music is like a perfect wife - nice to be with, comfy, goes above and beyond to take care of your needs, and usually exceeds expectations. Rahman's music is like a typical wife, when she's good, she's great(kannodu kaanbathallaam), but when she's in one of her moods, she can be terrible and you feel like yelling "shut the **** up" (minsaara kanna - jeez, shut the **** up!)
5. Raja's music pulls at your heartstrings, Rahman's makes you want to shake an arm and a leg but doesn't quite reach your heart.
6. Raja's music is so unique, ARR is repetitive for the most part.
OK, #6 was lame, but I wanted to write atleast 6 points.
Tigger
Responses:
- From: Bored to death (@ 216.68.113.237)
on: Wed Nov 21 15:55:24 EST 2001
"a perfect wife"
Isn't the idea of "a perfect wife" an illusion?
- From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10)
on: Thu Nov 22 00:20:33 EST 2001
aamanda ippadiye pesi poluthai kalinga.
ulagathilaye romba popular agite varuvathu illaiyarajavum yuvan shankarum than. appoppo karthikum agiduvaru.
meedhi music directorlam veetula ukkanthukittu mayiru pudungikittu irukkanga.
pongada neengalum unga threadugalum.
idu tamil thirai isai pakkama illa illaiyaraja kudmbathukku aati vidura pakkama nnu therila.
illaiyaraja pavam vootla ukkanthuttu ambathayirathukkum iruvathajayirathukkum pattu podurennu koovi koovi koopuduraru. aana yarum antha pakkam thala vachu padukkarathu illa.
neenga solra unpopular music diretorlam ooru kodi oonrarai kodinu sambalm vagiyyu irukkanga.
raajavukku eppadi polapillama pocho adhu madhiri avaru rasigargallukkum polappu illama pochu.
iyyo pavam!!!!!!!!!!
- From: Chase the Jalras out (@ 199.207.253.101)
on: Thu Nov 22 00:28:35 EST 2001
choo choooo ...... kanda kanda naayellam inga vandhu kathuthu
- From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10)
on: Thu Nov 22 01:27:06 EST 2001
aamanda naithan.
evanayo nakkikite aalayura nai illa unna madhiri.
idhu konjam roshakkara nai. thirudangala patha koraikkum.
BTW eppadi ungalala vidama nakkikitey aalaya mudiyuthu.
- From: Prem (@ 203.199.225.229)
on: Thu Nov 22 01:42:10 EST 2001
THE SEVENTH REASON ..
7. Rahman's music is like eating in a Five Star hotel.. the ambience is excellent, the quality is phenomenal, the service is very poor and the food is hardly satisfactory.
Raja's music is like eating in Saravana Bhavan, the ambience and the quality are adequate and consistent, service is excellent and the taste tugs your heart and fills your stomach very satisfactorily.
- From: Shreesha (@ 61.11.79.19)
on: Thu Nov 22 03:59:34 EST 2001
I accept that IR is great. But his fans should accept that ARR too is great! I have only one question to all the IR fans why is his music so bad nowadays? Is he not able to match ARR? He has two releases for Diwali but no one is talking about it. Why?
- From: dd metro (@ 202.9.167.176)
on: Thu Nov 22 04:10:23 EST 2001
Prem : Saravana Bhavan used to be good in the olden days, when there were no other good hotels around. Nowadays, forget eating, even going near that makes me puke all the way
- From: vch (@ 203.197.149.9)
on: Thu Nov 22 04:25:56 EST 2001
Ok for all IR fans:ARR is worst.IR is greatest.
for all ARR fans:IR is worst.ARR is greatest.
Atleast for heaven's sake stop this nonsense
and discuss useful and constructive things in
TFM.
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.131)
on: Thu Nov 22 04:27:11 EST 2001
"5-course meal but he prepares it like fast food. Rahman's music is like fast food but he prepares it like a 5-course meal" tigger, u have just insulted IR, do u realise tat? The way I read it, ARR puts in alot of effort into something simple while IR tries to make something grand but can't do the amount of work required. Just ask yourself if u'd want to eat a 5 course meal prepared by someone, only wit the effort reqd for fast food. I'd fear food poisoning and a half-past six meal.
Now that u have come up with a perfect wife analogy, i'll give u a perfect husband analogy.
IR's music is like the physically unattractive husband. He also sucks and is a real pain in the butt. ARR's music is the physically attractive husband. Though he sucks like all men, at least his looks redeem his typical male BS.
- From: gender_doubt (@ 210.214.4.205)
on: Thu Nov 22 06:57:45 EST 2001
WhyNot, are you a girl? (i.e. a married girl):-)
- From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.161.101)
on: Thu Nov 22 07:45:45 EST 2001
INTHE THREADE ILUTTHU POOTUNGA
- From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21)
on: Thu Nov 22 12:06:31 EST 2001
vch,
u spoke my words! thanks! now i don't need to do it...
raycas
- From: mutawakeel (@ 65.186.21.53)
on: Thu Nov 22 12:59:23 EST 2001
WhyNot, I think you misunderstood tigger's point. IR prepares a 5 course meal in the time taken to prepare fast food. He does it this way (I think the word to use is 'consummate ease') because he is a genious. ARR on the other hand is a great music director, but does not have the innate ability to produce great music, he has to work hard to achieve that.
- From: arun_uk (@ 195.99.125.204)
on: Thu Nov 22 15:53:32 EST 2001
Irresponsible & Irrelevant comparision between two GIANTS!!!
One of them is a 'Genius' without doubts, but the other is 'Great'in his own way! So kindly stop all this mutual mud-slingling.
Its high time these kind of threads are disallowed!!!
- From: ana (@ 64.210.248.135)
on: Thu Nov 22 16:04:09 EST 2001
SHUT UP ALL OF YOU NO ONE CARES
- From: sibte hussain (@ 62.32.53.13)
on: Thu Nov 22 16:17:07 EST 2001
well,what i know is just dat nobody could be compared with the great ar rehman.people have been lying.........isnt ittrue
- From: sibte hussain-pakistan (@ 62.32.53.12)
on: Thu Nov 22 16:18:50 EST 2001
yaaron sun lozara.in paglon kakya kehnaa.
bus rehmanjaisaa koi naa
- From: Khokoi (@ 143.117.11.25)
on: Thu Nov 22 16:42:14 EST 2001
ayo tamila .. potha pa. I think T. Rajendran the best
- From: aalavanthan (@ 65.92.114.73)
on: Thu Nov 22 17:57:08 EST 2001
all of you shut up and get lost.
this is no place for you.
- From: mariff (@ 202.47.167.92)
on: Thu Nov 22 19:29:01 EST 2001
IR's music is like a perfect wife very consistent , dull' boring sometimes and predictable. Rahman's is like a wife full of passion, strong head can go to extremes full of surprises and can take from one extreme to the point of ecstasy.
- From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10)
on: Fri Nov 23 00:08:34 EST 2001
'kasi' audio releasing tomorrow.
and raaja is composing music for a new film called 'music'.
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Fri Nov 23 06:47:04 EST 2001
gender_doubt, i'm happily unmarried. My posting means no offence to any guys here. I was just pissed off to read tigger's idea of a perfect wife, u'd have thought he was describing the perfect pet or the perfect robot and seems to forget completely tat women have their own lives other than pleasing their husbands. I guess only fools like that will start threads like this.
I tried to resist posting anything in this thread at all, but i guess temptation overtook me.
mutawakeel, i saw what tigger was trying to say and tried to interpret it in my own way.
Also there's nothing wrong in trying very hard to do something well. It shouldn't be perceived as a weakness, but rather, a strength.
- From: Paramendiren (@ 203.143.19.4)
on: Fri Nov 23 08:10:43 EST 2001
ARR's music is more suitable than IR's music for
today's music field. It was proved the series of
ARR's films.
- From: Paramendiren (@ 203.143.19.4)
on: Fri Nov 23 08:13:39 EST 2001
ARR's music is more suitable for today's music
field, It was proved by the series of ARR's film's
- From: DINESH (@ 213.121.248.90)
on: Fri Nov 23 08:18:15 EST 2001
THAT WAS GREAT
RAHMAN IS A DISGRACE TO INDIAN MUSIC COS HE COPIES FROM ARABIC MUSIC
AND HE SUPPORTS THE TERRORISTS OF PAKISTAN FROM HIS EARNINGS
SO HES A BAD MUSIC DIRECTOR AND A BAD MAN
- From: raycas (@ 212.186.40.21)
on: Fri Nov 23 11:41:28 EST 2001
dinesh,
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
was that u in the movie 'conspiracy theory' with julia roberts? (i thought it was mel gibson)
and once again,
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
raycas
- From: brinda (@ 203.197.186.21)
on: Fri Nov 23 14:06:02 EST 2001
dinesh
Dont get frustrated! I can understand ur feelings. IR can never get as good as ARR. Tough luck!!
- From: S (@ 207.43.195.201)
on: Mon Nov 26 12:32:17 EST 2001
>> was just pissed off to read tigger's idea of a perfect wife, u'd have thought he was describing the perfect pet or the perfect robot and seems to forget completely tat women have their own lives other than pleasing their husbands
so are you saying that there is no perfect anybody? There are no "perfect teacher", "perfect president", perfect murderer" ...?
- From: no jalra (@ 203.199.203.194)
on: Tue Nov 27 01:31:27 EST 2001
iam very sorry for my obscene idiotic postings.just gone out of mind and i was drunk hence i posted here like an old monk,please forgive me i will never post anything here i will just read and go away,raaja illadha tfm illai ippo purinjukkitten aiyaa mannichukkkonga naan naaiya vida kevalamaanavan avvalavudhaan ippadikku-no jalra alias ma--r aandi.
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.133)
on: Tue Nov 27 06:05:10 EST 2001
S, of course no one is perfect! And what's wrong is to expect someone else to be perfect when u urself are far from it! And what's worse is to expect someone else to be perfect in serving u like a slave and forgetting they are an individual just like urself! I would say the same thing would apply to women who expect perfect husbands who work all day, give them their entire pay packet, do ALL the housework, take care of the kids and massage their legs as well!
And if i did meet someone who seemed to be perfect, i'll be suspicious there's more than meets the eye.
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