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IlayaRaaja's Official Website

Topic started by ambleen (@ sbproxy2.mystarhub.com.sg) on Sun Feb 20 04:18:49 EST 2000.
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The official website http://www.raajangahm.com of Maestro Ilayaraaja is scheduled for launch on Wednesday, March 1, 2000. In the meanwhile, if you have any questions, suggestions or contributions, please email them to aruLaracan, RaajaNGAHM co-ordinator, at rajan@psiphi.umsl.edu.

aruLaracan

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• From: aruLaracan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Sun Apr 9 18:26:02 EDT 2000
  
  krishnan,
  
  thanks. let me take a look at it.
  
  
• From: RaajaFan (@ 208.154.130.13) on: Tue Apr 11 13:07:00 EDT 2000
  
  Please visit Maestro Ilayaraaja's website for the latest information on news and Maestro's upcoming projects.
  
  The URL is
  http://www.ilayaraaja.com
  
  Thanks
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Thu Apr 13 14:39:34 EDT 2000
  
  Arul
  
  can you request Raja to write a series
  of articles about his compositional
  thought process. For example he could
  take a few of his all time classics
  like Poongathavae, Aedho moham, Manguyilae and many many others and try to recollect the thought process
  that went into creating this great masterpieces.
  What factors in the song context made
  him choose particular styles, instruments,
  what were innovations from his perspective
  that we must learn from each of these songs,
  what were his inspirations.
  
  I know that he always says that he does not
  think much while composing and most of his
  ideas come to him quickly, but if he thinks
  a bit at these songs after the gap of many
  years, he might be able to put them
  musical context.
  
  Being the official page, such material would
  be so valuable to Raja fans and in general
  all students of music. And Raja being
  a genius in every Western, Eastern and Film
  music traditions, and a good perceptive writer,
  his contribution would be as valuable as
  his music.
  
  I request the DF-ers to second this request,
  Thanks
  RJAY
  
  
• From: MS (@ 129.252.22.9) on: Thu Apr 13 17:15:58 EDT 2000
  
  Arul:
  
  What RJAY is suggesting seems to be interesting to me too. If IR feels a bit shy in writing this as narration in first person, one of you can approach him, get to know the way he does it and make a write up with your description. Please try.
  
  
• From: haris (@ inet-fw3-o.oracle.com) on: Thu Apr 13 17:32:49 EDT 2000
  
  also, i would die to watch tune-making sessions of IR. kind of Home-video thing.. ( just capture the happenings.. )
  it was in the tape of guna (tuning appanenrum /ammai..)- it would be interesting to have more of them.. i'm sure people close to IR and who admire him would have made such videos/audios.. ( may be Kamal..) But the challenge is to collect them and put them in real audio/video format and upload... i would say
  - nothing is as great as something like that...
  
  
• From: kiru (@ surf0004.sybase.com) on: Thu Apr 13 17:33:52 EDT 2000
  
  I think RJAY's suggestion is good. But IR is too productive a guy to be the right person for this job. First, I would like to see Anuradha Sriram's (?) Phd thesis on IR on the web. Arul, can we get hold of that ? Actually, RJAY himself can do a review of IR songs. I requested Shashi to do that, but for some reason he is not interested in doing that. These reviews do not have to have a rating/nor opinion, just describe whats going on. This will be very helpful to musical novices like me.
  
  Actually, I suggest 'classifying IR songs' as a thesis/article series for raajangahm. (Arul, listening ??). This could be very interesting as we could get his diverse/big corpus songs down to a few styles (possibly). I would be very happy to see pattern in his work. Have you guys read chaos theory ?
  
  
• From: haris (@ inet-fw3-o.oracle.com) on: Thu Apr 13 17:38:21 EDT 2000
  
  even now, one can seek his permission to record his tune-making sessions (which they call 'sittings') for his forth-coming projects (films). such recordings for even a couple of songs - will speak for themselves huge volumes of the thought process ( though not exactly the thought process..).
  
  
• From: alaghu (@ dot.icn.state.ia.us) on: Thu Apr 13 18:08:35 EDT 2000
  
  I too would like to make a couple of suggestions just as an hcirf.
  It would be great if raajangahm can have a ra piece of his speech to his fans
  
  If he can come online and chat with his fans in a monthly basis or a regular basis. Even try and get his sons to talk about their dad and about themselves.
  
  Hopefully this gets IR closer to his fans,
  
  
• From: nvd (@ bkj-cache82.jaring.my) on: Thu Apr 13 23:49:42 EDT 2000
  
  I would also like to read AS's PhD thesis about IR.!!
  
  
• From: S (@ netcache31.mot.com) on: Fri Apr 14 02:33:32 EDT 2000
  
  I'm not very interested in reading her thesis, for she once seems to have said that she did it bcos she didn't have any other topic to do :-(
  
  If that were the case I know how committed the effort wud've been....
  
  
• From: Sree (@ peoria.newbridge.com) on: Fri Apr 14 08:37:47 EDT 2000
  
  FYI:
  Anuradha Sriram did not do Ph.d, she did a M.A in Musicology, and it was her Master's Thesis.
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Fri Apr 14 14:20:30 EDT 2000
  
  Kiru
  
  I have analysed few IR songs and Rahman
  songs and taken such notes. can share in another
  place another time. But nothing can come close
  to listening it from Raja. If not a series,
  at least a interview about various aspects
  of composing like - styles, situational factors,
  melodic aspects, differences between WCM, ICM,
  instruments and their peculiarities.
  
  Raja may not see its value, and say: my
  music tells it all. But just music makes us
  passive listeners that's all. Running commentaries
  bridge emotions(right brain) with understanding(left brain) and make our listening active and
  fruitful.
  
  Such teaching may turn out to be equally,
  if not more, valuable than composing more music!
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Fri Apr 14 14:49:08 EDT 2000
  
  Regarding Kiru's second suggestion (song classification) -
  Identifying song genres will help see
  patterns in that. More specifically,
  if we find two songs that were composed to
  meet the same situation, we can learn lot
  of compositional lessons like, why one worked
  and the other did not and answer questions
  like, are there common musical elements
  in songs tuned for a same situation by
  a composer? Two differnet composers?
  Are there similar ragas/tala/feel that easily
  create a required emotion? and so on.
  
  Last month I started
  working on that and found simpler ways
  of starting a systematic genre classification.
  Instead of pre-classifying songs into sad,
  happy, etc, I started with neutral factors/dimensions
  like Male/Female, Solo/Duet/Group, Fast/Slow/Medium. As per multivariate
  analysis, clusters should emerge automatically.
  
  With a limited database of 50 songs I could
  see some interesting patterns. Mukkala (Rahman),
  Meham Kottattum (Raja), Ilamai idho idho,
  Ennai theriyuma (MSV) are comparable in
  their effect. And I found interesting
  common features. Dramatic intro, strong
  pounding beat in the intro, a drum solo
  in the middle, use of female/male chorus,
  prolonged ending (dramatic). And all of them
  surprising use a subset of the minor scale,
  more close to suddha dhanyasi scale, but
  have no gamakams.
  And each of these features are required for a dance
  song, as it serves some specific purpose.
  
  This is just an example. That made me realize
  that the context of the song determines its
  choice of style, instruments, well, almost
  everything! How exactly a composer makes these
  decisions and how he borrows from a cliche and
  yet avoids it by extending it, is the unique
  style of the composer!
  
  For example, out of all these, Rahman's
  melody is the most soft melody. If you
  sing it alone, it sounds pretty un-macho.
  Compared to MSV's and Raja's tunes!
  Yet he creates
  his dramatic effects from percussion and
  strong bold instruments and haunting
  cello and bass-flute interludes!
  
  Similar analysis lead me to make the request
  to Raja to teach us. Of course, magicians
  never tell!
  
  
  
• From: rjay (@ brkfw0005.navistar.com) on: Fri Apr 14 14:53:03 EDT 2000
  
  I saw the excellent comprehensive discography
  at Rajangahm. Does anyone know a songlist?
  Movie wise? If not movie-wise, at least
  a long long list. The closest would be
  Rex, Balaji, Ramaswamy's site song lists.
  Has anybody tried to put together the list?
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ bh33402.umsl.edu) on: Fri Apr 14 15:02:38 EDT 2000
  
  i didn't get to read everything. i just skimmed through. one thing for sure, we have already started working on many of the suggestions given here. since we are have our own life to take care of first, things would come out at a slower rate. we wil try to speed up as much as we can.
  
  thanks for all your support.
  
  will be back later,
  aruLaracan
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Fri Apr 14 16:25:33 EDT 2000
  
  song list in the preparation, rjay. it's not complete. we would like all fans to fill it in. we plan to post in a very short while.
  
  
• From: www.ir.com ??? (@ gateway.nmg.sms.siemens.com) on: Fri Apr 14 17:56:00 EDT 2000
  
  Oh my God..
  ilaiya or ilaya or elaiyaa..
  
  rajaangham or raajaangum or rajaangham..
  
  GOSH!
  
  Im comfortable mugging up IP address!
  
  
• From: ECHO (@ hobbiton.org) on: Fri Apr 14 20:09:23 EDT 2000
  
  who is that ??? starting it again. www.raaja.com is so simple, if u expect more, that unfair!
  
  
• From: alaghu (@ desmcache1.desm.uswest.net) on: Fri Apr 14 20:16:40 EDT 2000
  
  seriously!! whoever this www.ir.com?? is ...
  why dont you try and give some constructive criticism...or just go to the old responses and keep yourself updated...aracha maavaye thirumbi araikkadhinga...i figure you are not an ir fan..fine but pls dont discourage a team who are putting their efforts to do their best....
  Its indeed quite frustrating i hope the team dont get bogged down by such comments
  Thanx!!
  
  
• From: aruLaracan (@ psiphi.umsl.edu) on: Sat Apr 15 15:43:51 EDT 2000
  
  :-)))
  
  

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