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IR's songs with emotional appeals....

Topic started by Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on Thu May 9 06:02:07 EDT 2002.
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Can we pls list some of IR's songs which were full of emotion, starting with

1) Kaadavul ullame o karunai ullame - Anbulla Rajnikanth

2) Uchi vahuntheduthu pichi poo - Rosaa poo ravukkai kaari- by SPB

3) Thempandi cheemayile - Nayakan - BY IR & Kamal

4) thakidathathame -Salanghai Oli - by SPB

5) Raaja enbar manthiri enbaar - Bhuvana oru ? - BY SPB+SJ

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• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu May 9 11:20:32 EDT 2002
  
  kupps;
  
  adra adra
  
  :))
  
  guys, please stop this digression and stick to the thread
  
  
• From: ROTFL (@ 203.106.139.69) on: Thu May 9 11:29:35 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps
  
  Take a moment and read my very first posting again. Sollavendiyathai sollivittu naan poyitte iruppen. But, yaaru vittaa?
  
  FYI, I have no intention to fight with you. You directed queries at me and I am forced to respond. What is so wrong with that?
  
  If you want to get petty, go and read again my posting about sivapoojai. There was NOTHING about sivalingam. That's being petty for you.
  
  Neenga ozhiga sollura goshti.
  ABAANDAM!
  Ilayaraaja ozhiga endru naan engeyaavathu, eppozhuthaavathu, oruthadavaiyaavathu sonnenaa? Appadi oru ennam ungal manathil irunthu veliye vanthirukkalaam.
  
  eeyaththa paathu piththaLa iLichchadhu, spectacle pottirukkaradhu naan illa neenga.
  I have never denied the regards due to IR. I also know how to treat an artiste and not get carried away. In your eyes, IR cannot do any wrong; tell me who is biased?
  
  Justification is needed if a false pointer is made.
  Exactly. The statement "In this area (emotionals), Raja is the undisputed Raja!" is WRONG. Netrikann thirappinum kuram kutramey!
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 170.35.240.203) on: Thu May 9 12:17:17 EDT 2002
  
  SETHU - "Engaee Sellun Indha Paadhaai" and "Vaarthaai Thavaari Vittai"...
  
  Veera - "Konji Konji" - i liked the song very much from the 1st hearing.... and when i saw the movie, i liked it more.... Rajini did a real good job in this song....
  
  Udhaya Geetham - "Thaenae Then Paandi Meenae"...
  
  many more many more many more many more many more many more......
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 165.122.129.69) on: Thu May 9 12:45:13 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps,
  I feel sorry too that you got provoked...but you don't have to actually feel sorry about it. i feel you were right and after all, you have the best record amongst all of us of being very well controlled in recent years.
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 165.122.129.69) on: Thu May 9 12:56:47 EDT 2002
  
  Uyirae uyirin oLiyae - En Bommakutti Ammavukku - KJY, KSC
  Theertha karai orathilae - Theertha Karayinilae - SPB
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 165.122.129.69) on: Thu May 9 13:05:03 EDT 2002
  
  Poovukku poovalae manjam ondru - Anand - SPB
  
  
• From: Ragumaan (@ 172.183.221.109) on: Thu May 9 16:09:04 EDT 2002
  
  Mandram Vantha - Mouna Raagam
  Oliyile Therivadhu - Azhagi
  Punniyam Thedi - Kaasi
  Paatu Solli - Azhagi
  
  Basically everything he does emotes great feeling.
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 165.122.129.69) on: Thu May 9 17:36:50 EDT 2002
  
  Chinna maNi ponnu maNi - Mallu Vetti Minor - KJY, KSC, UR
  
  
• From: Sanity at last (@ 172.186.81.22) on: Thu May 9 17:42:52 EDT 2002
  
  In response to Isaiosai's comment on Kupps reputation,
  
  Shall we just ignore the ROTLFs and the WHYNOTs and concentrate on our musical tastes alone?
  
  ROTFL, i am not expecting your response to this, if you have any Maanam and Mariyadhai, stay away from responding to me. If not, you are a SoriNaayi who can't resist the 'Itch'.
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 165.122.129.69) on: Thu May 9 17:53:59 EDT 2002
  
  Raaga deepam aetrun naeram - Payanangal Mudivadhillai - SPB
  
  
• From: isaiosai (@ 165.122.129.69) on: Thu May 9 18:02:47 EDT 2002
  
  oops! that should be "Raaga deepam aetrum naeram" - Payanangal Mudivadhillai - SPB
  
  Malayoram veesum kaatru - Paadu Nilavae - SPB
  Chinna thaayavaL - DhaLapathi - SJ
  
  
• From: kiru (@ 192.138.150.249) on: Thu May 9 23:08:45 EDT 2002
  
  Guys..I have been listening to one song in thanik kAttu rAja ..the album I have been ignoring because of some songs like 'naan thaan toppu..meethiyellAm doopu' :) . The song I am referring to is - rAsAvE unna naan enniththaan..This song is really fantastic..the recording is what enhances. It is not just the clarity ..even the style of mixing..instruments in the foreground and vocals far behind is very much like what modern MDs like ARR, YSR etc do. I am not sure why IR did not continue this style of recording and mixing..Maybe in those conservative day people might have complained that the instruments are overpowering the melody..Anyways..this is a great song. In principle, I think, IR does justice to the mood of the situation all the time..when the lyrics are meaningful and nice the song gets a double boost.
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Fri May 10 00:51:01 EDT 2002
  
  vai karayil vaigai karayil from payanangaL mudivathillai. A sad song (not a azhugai song, though). Giving the emotion of the situation perfectly. Kudos to SPB and VM(ah! Kupps do u mean this to VM?) who did a perfect job in addition to IR's.
  
  
• From: eden (@ 210.214.5.226) on: Fri May 10 01:38:27 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps, vaikarayil is by GA:-)
  
  adadA...namma oru statement'kku ivvaLu postingsA?
  
  Even earlier I made a statement in another thread that KJY & KSC top in making the songs emotional and Raja had made good use of them (in spite of not having great lyrics / movie situations which were far more advantageous to MSV-TKR)...no doubt there had been songs that move you before Raja's entry, but I can give only limited credit to MD (KD & the likes take more than 50% share, situations & picturisations were quite great emotionally...often if you have not seen the film, the song cannot evoke emotions those days...)
  
  Raja's case is different...I had no chance to see the visuals of most of his very emotional songs & majority of those I saw were pathetic too. The lyrics too do not touch your heart by and large (what's so great in the lines of `thAlAttu mARippOnadhE?). In spite of these, the song gets into your bloodstream powerfully...hence more credit to the MD. Why, a non-filmy album like HTNI (especially the title piece) moves one so much with emotions...
  
  I repeat my statement more emphatically...in comparison to MSV, TKR, KVM (& those before Raja and after Raja till today), Raja is undisputed KING in this area...I'm game for discussion on this aspect if one is interested to quote song by song...which we can take apart and analyse!
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri May 10 04:12:48 EDT 2002
  
  I knew this thread will be hot one, cos of the name IR, :))
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri May 10 04:22:12 EDT 2002
  
  Add;
  
  1) Vanurantha solaiyele -SPB- Mohan film???
  2) Chittuku chella chittuku - KJY - Super*'s nallavanukku nallavan
  
  how can anyone 4get the awsome rendertion by SPB in the following songs
  
  1) Sangeetha jathi mulai - Kadhal Oviyum
  2) Amma azaghe - Kadhal Oviyum
  3) Idhayame idhayame - idhayam
  4) Poonkodi thaan poothathamma - idhayam
  
  there was a superb song by KJY called "kannavu kaanum vazhakai yaavum kalainthu poogum koolanghaz", superb rendertion by KJY, what was the film, & who was the MD?, IR?
  
  
• From: Kupps (@ 156.153.255.134) on: Fri May 10 04:54:37 EDT 2002
  
  Kupps, vaikarayil is by GA:-)
  
  adhaanae aennada VM-ma pugazhgira maadhiri vandhuruchchaennu ninaichchaen :-))
  
  inRu nee naaLai naan appideengara padaththula oru arumayaana paattu poN vaanam panneer thoovudhu innaeram. aaha! andha paaatta naenaichcha ippavum MKU main gate aedhirthaappala irukkara selva tea kadayila aippasi maasa mazhaila class-kku poga mudiyaama("cut" in simple words) andha iLam saarala rasichchi tea kudikkara kaatchi aen kaN munnaala vandhu nikkudhu....hmmm...
  
  
• From: e (@ 210.214.4.89) on: Fri May 10 05:13:28 EDT 2002
  
  Raghu, neenga newtfmpage'kku evvaLu nALA vAreenga, indha song pathi innumA theriyAmal irukkeenga?
  
  KKV is from `neengaL kEttavai', a BM film and the MD is IR. (This is one of those few copied numbers by IR, from a hindi song):-)
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri May 10 05:16:41 EDT 2002
  
  eden sar;
  
  aiyo naa chinna paiyan sar, manichukunga, he he
  :-))
  
  
• From: mahabs (@ 203.192.206.125) on: Fri May 10 05:26:45 EDT 2002
  
  add these to this ever-growing list:
  
  1. dharisanan kidaikkatha - alaikal oivathillai
  
  2. amuthae thamizhe - koil purakkal
  
  3. en mana vanil - kasi
  
  anbudan
  mahabs
  
  
  
• From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri May 10 08:09:30 EDT 2002
  
  "I repeat my statement more emphatically...in comparison to MSV, TKR, KVM (& those before Raja and after Raja till today), Raja is undisputed KING in this area...I'm game for discussion on this aspect if one is interested to quote song by song...which we can take apart and analyse!"
  
  Eden, something like emotional appeal is highly personal. I really dont see how u can take apart and analyse this. Granted Raja may be the king for YOU in this department. That is your opinion. Others may feel different. I personally dont agree. And that's my opinion. Not that there is anything to analyse or discuss there as my emotions and what appeals to me remains for me to decide.
  
  IMO, alot of other TFM MDs ranging from S-G, TR, to ARR have emotional appeal in their songs. So IMO no one stands as The KING in this department.
  
  
  Raghu, do u want to specify exactly what you mean by "emotional appeal"?? Happiness is an emotion too...so wud a song like "kaattukkuyilu manasukkulla" qualify as a song full of emotion?
  
  Having stepped into this thread, here is my token contribution.
  
  -nee partha parvai (hey ram)
  -oliyile (azhagi)
  -oru kanam (nadodi thendral)
  -kanne kalaimane (moondram pirai)
  -shenbagame (enga ooru paatukaaran)
  
  
• From: sabesan (@ 172.159.213.125) on: Fri May 10 08:17:12 EDT 2002
  
  WhyNot - "Oliyile" - that's a good mention.... i did not like this song until i saw the movie.... wow, what a perfect fit.... hats off to ThangarBachan, IR and the lyricists..... it was picturised very well, and the adoloscent kid, oh man, Thangarbachan, really got the best out of him in that song.....
  
  
• From: Raghu (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri May 10 09:13:12 EDT 2002
  
  WN;
  
  What I meant By emotional Appeal is mainly pathos, which stirs your soul big time, I do not agree with u about ARR doing justice to pathos song except "En kadhale en kadhale" by SPB from Duet & awsome rendertion of "En atha enai tha vittu poona" by KJY from "Uzhavan", ARR has not got chance next to IR when it comes Pathos, mind u, I am no HCIRF or HCARR
  
  
• From: WN (@ 203.24.100.132) on: Fri May 10 09:46:19 EDT 2002
  
  "I do not agree with u about ARR doing justice to pathos song"
  Funny I dont remember making any statements abt ARR in relation to pathos song. ALL i remember saying is that songs by a wide range of MDs (among whom I included ARR) have an emotional appeal to me.
  
  So ur thread is worded wrongly.
  
  I dont give a damn if ur a HCARRF, HCIRF, HCSPBF and neither do i care if u think IR is better than ARR, MSV or Imaan in pathos, rap or therukoothu. I did NOT make any comparisons and make any statements like this MD is better than that MD. Too bad u can only remember 2 songs by ARR. That is ur loss. But u dont have to cheapen ur thread by unnecessarily bringing in the same old ARR vs IR bullcrap. And after this dont make ur usual hue and cry about 'stick to the topic'. U made a very unwarranted statement and tat jus reflects upon ur maturity level. If u want to play to the crowds, go ahead and entertain urself. I'm not going to waste my time arguing with u any further.
  
  btw, ROTFL forgot to mention tat lallang is a weed.
  
  

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