Topic started by Bhoori (@ 209.157.48.1) on Thu Aug 12 21:09:05 EDT 2004.
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Sometimes I don't understand the meaning of some songs. Recently it took SK to explain the meaning of "Vizhiye Kathai Ezhudhu" to me. Here are some more questions.
Responses:
- From: Bhoori (@ 209.157.48.1)
on: Thu Aug 12 21:12:17 EDT 2004
Alai Payudhe CD vangum bodhu adhile kooda "Unakkaga Mattum"nu oru padatthoda paattum vandhuduchhu. I don't remember the song - but there is a line there which has stuck in my memory -
Science Maths polave pengal iru vidhamda
Arttham Enna Sollava Censor Udhaikkumada
Adhu ennanga Censor udhaikkara madiri arttham?
The next one is about an old song
Neerodum Vaigaiyile Ninradum Meene
Neyoorum Kanagatthil Kai Kattum Maane
Neerodum Vaigaiyile Ninradum Meen sari. Kanagatthile nei oorudha? Adhile maan vera vandhu kai kattudha? Ennai madiri pamarargalukku yaaravadhu vilakka matteengala?
- From: Raj (@ 208.164.98.89)
on: Thu Aug 12 22:21:04 EDT 2004
Bhoori:Some of the lyrics these days do not make that much sense! I will interpret what I think the lyricist had in mind.
Science,other than maths, requires experimentation(practical). By science he probably means physics,chemistry and biology. Maths does not need experimentation!:) Now, you know why censor would object! That is western influence!:)))
nei has several meanings- oil, affection. You thought it was ghee. It depends on which forest (kaanagam) he had in mind. If it is Nilgiris then it is oil bearing eucalyptus. If it is somewhere in Mysore area then it is sandalwood which also has oil. Or, it can be that the forest encourages her to show more affection/love!:)
I think nei is also used to mean honey, which you find in forests!
maan refers to the girl!
- From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78)
on: Fri Aug 13 01:40:35 EDT 2004
raj pineeteenga...try this one also...
it is a song from kangalaal kaithu sei
Thanthi kambam mele
ka kaa kee
Kothithan pesum
Ki Kee Koo
Aalamaram ulle
Ku Koo kay
Athaipen kanavan
ma maa mee
Vathi pettikulle
thi thee thoo
selai katti vanthaal
na naa nee
- From: Nattamai (@ 216.240.138.3)
on: Fri Aug 13 03:00:38 EDT 2004
Bhoori:
Looks like this is a fun thread. Here is my take:
Science Maths polave pengal iru vidhamda
Arttham Enna Sollava Censor Udhaikkumada
Maths vidham paththa vudane kanakku pannanumnu thonum
Science vidham konjam research panna puram than pidikkum, family type?
Kai Kattum Maane
when the hero and heroine can have fun, looks like the girl doesn\'t allow him because of her shyness?
Shouldn\'t she be happy and move forward?? Wouldn\'t \'thenoorum\' instead of neyoorum and \"kai thattum\" instead of \"kai kattum\" be appropriate?
thenoorum kanagaththil kai thattum maane!?!!
:))
- From: Raghu (@ 193.129.245.198)
on: Fri Aug 13 08:42:06 EDT 2004
Nattami, sir neengha sona theerpu sari ;)
PeNngal eppavum Vingnanam mathiri thaan(without the brains!), hehe, just joking, eppavum irrationalai ,illogicalai thaan irupangha,
anna, pasangha appadiyillai, eppavum logicalai, simpleai pesuvangha, practicalai irupangha, utharanathukku, ennai eduthu kunga :)))
just kidding.
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Fri Aug 13 10:13:08 EDT 2004
marupadiyum 'velaavaariyaa'!!
Scince, Math patthi romba peru alasittaanga; adnala aththai vuttuduvom
ippa, rendaavadhu song-ukku varuvom.
Nobody other than Kavignar KaNNadaasan could have come up with such high strung lines for a humerous situation!
Let me explain:
This is a parody song.
There are two scenerios dealt in here.
First you should understand the scene and situation of the song.
Padam: paar magalE paar
paaduvadhu: Sivaji& Sowcar janaki.
Situation: Pushing the 'thottil' in which the new-born twins.[not as some of you had imagined, true to your age!!]
I am now going to take you for an imaginary ride.
What is said here is 'vaigai'-- water. and 'nei'- semisolid but liquidy!
Hope some of you would have understood what I am arriving at.
Kavignar wants to humorously, but at the same time indirectly, wants to make fun of the kids passing urine and motion in the cradle itself but still laughing gleefully. You all must have witnessed a similar situation in your homes!
Now read the lines, you will understand!
One child has pee'd and laughing,-- 'neer'odum vaigaiyile ninraadum maan!
The other has passed motion and still smiling and shows its hand to the mother happily-- 'nei'oorum kaanagaththil kai kaattum maan!
veLangichchaa!
Hats off to Kavignar for saying it eloquently of a situation which may be considered as 'nasty'!
How we miss him!
- From: sudalai (@ 193.132.98.250)
on: Fri Aug 13 11:18:08 EDT 2004
Good one.. SK.
- From: e (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:07:09 EDT 2004
SK, adhu `twins' illa:-)
One is their own child and another is adopted by Sowcar without Shivaji's knowledge at delivery time (mother abandons it)...
I recently saw this film...brisk for the most part...
The MSV whistling / PS humming are great highlights of this song...
There's another beauty in this film ('avaL paRandhu pOnAlE')...
- From: e (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:10:35 EDT 2004
Bhoori, once again, check the context before you arrive at the `artham' and other related conclusions...
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:23:09 EDT 2004
U R right! One is[later!] Vijayakumari and the other is Pushpalatha.
"madhuraa nagaril thamizh sangam", "paar magaLe paar" are some more good songs in that.
Thanks.
- From: SK (@ 199.90.34.67)
on: Fri Aug 13 12:25:34 EDT 2004
And, "CHO"s first movie!!
- From: Bhoori (@ 209.157.48.1)
on: Fri Aug 13 19:39:25 EDT 2004
SK, Engeyo poyitteenga! Enna gnanam, enna arivu! Pullarikkudhunga! Padam pakkadha enakkum puriya vacchittengale!
Aana, Kavignar "neeyoorum KANAGAM" appadinraru, thottilla irukkaradho kuzhandainga...
- From: Bhoori (@ 209.157.48.1)
on: Fri Aug 13 19:43:39 EDT 2004
SK, neenga indha ratela poneengalna, adutthadhu "Dolakku dol dappi ma"kkudhan arttam kekkanum. :-) Adhukku enna sollap poreengannu therinjukka romba aavala irukken.
- From: hehehewalrus (@ 130.127.104.35)
on: Fri Aug 13 20:37:18 EDT 2004
Bhoori, he says KAnagathil not kanagathil
- From: SK (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Sat Aug 14 00:03:49 EDT 2004
yEdhO kaviitthuvamaa kEttengalEnnu badhil solla vandhEn.
Ippadiyellaam kEppengannaa, andha aattaththukku naan varallaippaa!
- From: Bhoori (@ 64.171.13.98)
on: Sun Aug 15 07:55:00 EDT 2004
Sari, time for the next one.
Kalyana Samiyal Sadham paattu.
Indha Gowrava Prasadham
Adhu ennanga Gowrava Prasadham? Enna Gowravargalukku padaippangala? Adhai Gowravanga sappida mattangala? Gowravargal (Or the Gowrava stooges) kannile kattittu Gatotkachane sappittu mudicchiradhaliya?
Adhe paattile
Puliyodharaiyin Soru - Nalla
Pirutthamana Sambaru
Puliyodhariakku Sambar porutthama? Eppolerundhu?
Poori kizhangu paaru
I believe potatoes came to India with the Europeans. How did Gatothkacha's cooks get poori kizhangu?
- From: SK (@ 66.57.14.197)
on: Sun Aug 15 17:55:49 EDT 2004
MaRupadiyum, maRupadiyum vandhu maatrrengaLE, BHOORI!
maRunaaL nadakkap pORa kalyaaNaththukkaga 'KAURAVARKAL' vagai vagaiyaa samaichchu vechchrukkaanga!
appavum sari, ippavum sari, kalyaaNam-gRadhu oru sadangu illai, oru vidhamaana poojai.
'ivanga rendu pEru kalyaaNMam paNNikka pORaanga'-nnu dhEvarkaLai yellaam kooppittu, agni saatchiyaa homam vaLarththu iyer moolamaa manthiram solli paNNuvaanga.
appO padaikkiRadhu 'prasaadham' thaanE!
'KAURAVARKAL' appadi padaichchu vechchirundha 'prasaadhaththai' gatOthgajan oru vettu 'ishtam pOla' vettaraaru!
pola polannu puLiyOdharai paNNi, naduvila paaththi kaati reNdu karaNdi vengaaya saambaarai ooththi, oru kattu katti paarunga, aduththa thadavai onga ammaa maNakka, maNakka samaikkum pOdhu!
appuRamaa ippadi pEsa maatteenga!!
neengaLaa 'kizhangu'nnu odanE potatoevai nenaichchukkittaa adhukku gatothgajanum, paattu yezhudhinavarum yeppadi poRuppu aavaanga?!
poorikku yedhO oru kizhangu nallaa irukkumnu namma aaLunga kaNdu pidichchu vechchuttaangannu nambuvOm.
So, senai, kaunai, vaLLi, panai ippadi yeththanaiyO kizhangungaLai sEththukkittu irundhirukkalaam illiyaa?
appuRamaa, potatoe iRakkumadhi aana odanE, adhukku katchi maaRi irukkalaam!
yaar kaNdadhu?
thavira, indha paattE oru thamaashukkaga yezhudhinadhu.
North India-vula wheat thaan main staple food, namakku arisi maadhiri.
adhanaala, poori kizhangu sarithaan!!
veLangudhaa!!
- From: Bhoori (@ 64.171.13.98)
on: Sun Aug 15 23:05:38 EDT 2004
Yenga SK, idhu ungallukke konjam jasthiya theriyale? Puliyodhariakku vengaya sambara? Appuram poorikku senaik kizhangu, karunaik kizhanga? Illa theriyamadhan kekkaren, unga vazkkaiyile eppavavadhu pooriyum senaik kizhangum saptrukkeengala? Romba udans udaraeengale?
- From: Bhoori (@ 64.171.13.98)
on: Sun Aug 15 23:06:26 EDT 2004
I forgot the smilies, imagine them at the appropriate places. :-)
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 61.16.168.131)
on: Mon Aug 16 02:53:25 EDT 2004
Bhoori, SK is right about pulliyotharai and sambar combination. it is really tasty. u shd try that.
SK, poori kizhangu explanation is very good. but "neerodum vaigaiyile" is too much. :-)))
I'll come back to maths and science. inga yaarovathu censor irundha, ennai mannika.
actually
science-i thirupi thirupi padikanum. appathaan puriyum.
maths-i pottu pottu paakanum. appathaan therium.
nothing offensive. yaarum kovichika vendam. :-)
- From: rs (@ 203.101.42.78)
on: Mon Aug 16 03:27:22 EDT 2004
hello hello ennoda request ah maranthuteengale.........
[Re-Request]
Thanthi kambam mele
ka kaa kee
Kothithan pesum
Ki Kee Koo
Aalamaram ulle
Ku Koo kay
Athaipen kanavan
ma maa mee
Vathi pettikulle
thi thee thoo
selai katti vanthaal
na naa nee
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