Topic started by Kamal (@ 202.4.190.67) on Fri Feb 14 23:49:08 EST 2003.
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Unity of light concert, Hyderabad
February 14 2003
Then SPB gave a small talk in telugu and was all praise of ARR.. he compared ARR to Sachin...He said "Sachin never speaks...his bat does the talking...in the same way ARR never speaks...his music does all thr talking!!!!!"
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/arrahmanfans/message/32838
Responses:
- From: Are Yaar (@ 203.115.31.67)
on: Fri Feb 14 23:53:55 EST 2003
Yes. It is very true. SPB said it all in just a couple of sentences.
- From: rahularr (@ 219.65.109.174)
on: Sat Feb 15 13:12:14 EST 2003
UDHAYA IS GONNA ROCK EVERYONE ON 19TH.. JEANSDI AND GUYS.. THERE HAS BEEN AN IMPOSTER AND HE'S HAS BEEN MISUSING MY NAME HE'S ONLY A MEAN SADIST .. IF U GUYS NEED PROOF FOR UDHAYA RELEASE GO TO RITCHIE STREET WHOLE SALERS AUDIO MARKET.. THERE IS UDHAAYA POSTERS EVERYWHERE.. SO 19TH IS THE DAY and i have confirmed this with saregama retailers..
imposter mailed that CONTRIDICTING NEWS .. its not by me
and one more news.. last week i saw an interview of pyramid natarajan on podhigai and he was upset about the whole udhaya issue.. he said udhaya has been revived and will release in march..this is for sure.. so don't get tensed.. 19th is THE DAY
- From: Sam (@ 208.134.115.240)
on: Sat Feb 15 13:38:37 EST 2003
arr music suks
spb beggin for offers
LOL!
- From: Kum_Laden (@ 24.100.182.75)
on: Sat Feb 15 14:32:25 EST 2003
From the statement of SPBala saying ARR=Sachin...lets imageing the rest!
IR - Gavaskar ( Seinior, thinks he is bighead.. etc)
VS - S.T.Jayasuriya ( Sometimes sarukinaalum most times 'Dhooool' )
YSR - Ganguly ( Aarva Kolaru... Suddenly he is the leader!)
KR - Mohanty ( Comapare looks also.. Unfortunate..)
MSV - Bradman? ( At their time only them were in the field!)
SAR - Lara
hahahha! the last one was a joke..nevermind
- From: jagan (@ 12.22.60.1)
on: Sat Feb 15 14:43:51 EST 2003
I dont know why SPB is stooping to this level? Because of offers? it is time he retires and sings occassionally. I licks every MDs ass. In one interview in telugu, he is all praise for Mani Sharma. He says he is one of the best MDs in telugu (could be true) but why praising every body on every occassion.
May be PR'ing for his son.
- From: Laden (@ 24.100.182.75)
on: Sat Feb 15 15:08:44 EST 2003
Dont insult SPB man not only he is a good talent also he is a better soul!
- From: Sivam (@ 4.64.200.197)
on: Sat Feb 15 17:44:24 EST 2003
Mr Sam U don't give up, Now he says SPB is begging for songs. Do you like any one's music in TFM or you are here just to crack some jokes on everybody.
U'r Sad Dude, get a life.
- From: Sam (@ 208.134.115.240)
on: Sat Feb 15 18:35:10 EST 2003
Mr Sivam:
i like all tfm songs by lataji, ashaji, sadhna, shreya n udit. i lizzen to shreya songs frm julie ganpathy several times evry day. spb has no training. sumbody picked him up from the street and made him a singer izint dat true. dus why he is begging. i like sum ilyaraja songs. i like P.sushila n TMS voice. they are trained singers like bwood singers. even Lataji praised Sushila. r u happy now. stop stalking me. LOL!
- From: Music-lover (@ 210.214.147.242)
on: Sat Feb 15 23:40:34 EST 2003
I remember very well an interview of SPBN by Karan Thapar for the famous Star Plus "Talk Show" during the mid 90s - when KT asked SPB about his memorable experiences with music directors other than ARR, SPB mentioned every other name including Anand Milind and Co.., but very diligently ignored mentioning even a word about IR ! I just could not believe it - not even a word on IR - that perhaps is the reason why IR has given SPB the aappu !
- From: ! (@ 65.176.169.219)
on: Sun Feb 16 00:44:03 EST 2003
How can a normal person mention IR's name when all other jokers are mentioned in one breath? Plus, when you are a family you don't take your family member' name in vain.
- From: fan (@ 202.9.148.191)
on: Sun Feb 16 01:42:55 EST 2003
spb has equated arr with sachin only because arr and sachin belong to the same generations. iff spb had equated arr with persons like don and gavvy, it may sound odd. but spb has praised several music directors including past music directors. so please do not read in between the lines and so spb is in need of chance. SPB has surpassed all levels of singing and is incomparable whether he sings or not. He has an unmatched record and let us not belittle ourselves by passing rediculous comments on him. Luckily nobody has said that lata is need of chance and that why she attended the arr show. Only we have this nasty habit of letting down our own people
- From: fan (@ 202.9.148.191)
on: Sun Feb 16 01:43:38 EST 2003
spb has equated arr with sachin only because arr and sachin belong to the same generations. iff spb had equated arr with persons like don and gavvy, it may sound odd. but spb has praised several music directors including past music directors. so please do not read in between the lines and so spb is in need of chance. SPB has surpassed all levels of singing and is incomparable whether he sings or not. He has an unmatched record and let us not belittle ourselves by passing rediculous comments on him. Luckily nobody has said that lata is need of chance and that why she attended the arr show. Only we have this nasty habit of letting down our own people
- From: x (@ 209.47.143.226)
on: Sun Feb 16 10:01:17 EST 2003
SPB has 35000 songs to his credit. A guinness record holder. Why should he beg for chances?? konjam yosingappa! SPB praised MDs because of his 'perunthammai'. SPB is like 'vashistar'. SPB's pugazhndhathil, ARR-kku than perumai.
It's kind of strange. You IR-haters also hate SPB. why? Is it because these 2 together gave so many melodies??
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Sun Feb 16 19:58:46 EST 2003
x, do you have comprehension problems?
Simple logic should tell you that IR-haters LOVE SPB. :)
It is IR fans like you who cannot digest the fact that SPB has something nice to say about anyone else other than IR.
Although SPB has been around much longer than IR, he is still top class, unlike IR who is in complete ruins.
- From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Mon Feb 17 00:13:08 EST 2003
Ade lollu paiyale,
How would u explain this then??
http://www.spbala.com/Masters%20Voice-Jul17.asp
(read the last 3 para will do)
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Mon Feb 17 05:19:02 EST 2003
Kum laden;
>>VS - S.T.Jayasuriya ( Sometimes sarukinaalum most times 'Dhooool' ) <<
good one, I am also a greattttttttt fan of Sanath Jayasuriya :))
- From: Vaseegara (@ 203.106.185.157)
on: Mon Feb 17 06:44:25 EST 2003
What is in that link that is related to the topic at hand?
Do all Rajangahm members talk nonsense like this?
- From: Prabhu (@ 203.195.200.2)
on: Mon Feb 17 08:27:01 EST 2003
Kum Laden, Raghu - Jayasuriya fans only coz of the sri lankan connection? :) Neways, Sanath annachi is real good. Just the other day I was pointing out to my pal that to be #5 top rungetter despite playing shots like that is really sumthing.
Comparison good, VS not as attention grabbing as other MDs but delivering consistently
- From: Raghu (@ 217.158.120.226)
on: Mon Feb 17 10:47:54 EST 2003
Prabhu;
>>Raghu - Jayasuriya fans only coz of the sri lankan connection?<<
not at all, buddy :))
I just love the way, he wacks the ball all over the field,very aggresive player, which is must for ODI, but as for tendulakr, he is world class player, but not as exciting to watch as sanath :))
Sewag is also pretty good, while tendular is good for test matches rather than ODI
- From: srina (@ 61.1.205.249)
on: Mon Feb 17 12:28:04 EST 2003
YES, SPB comments correctly b'cos ARR fails to give good performance regularly but oftenly praised by others.
- From: vardhini (@ 137.237.12.102)
on: Mon Feb 17 12:49:50 EST 2003
SPB has praised all MDs at various point at various occasions. He always has only good to say about others.
- From: hmph (@ 219.65.109.172)
on: Mon Feb 17 18:54:28 EST 2003
Raghu...
u may spark off a debate here about Sachin!! watch it!
i was tempted too, did not want to digress.
- From: ambleen (@ 202.95.121.98)
on: Mon Feb 17 20:35:58 EST 2003
Ada mutta pasangala,
Read the below interview held last year. If you want to go straight to the point(read the last 3 para will do).
"The master's voice
The Hindu, Ranee Kumar, July 17, 2002
S.P.Balasubrahmanyam is talent and dedication personified and his versatility has no limits. Today, the country's most respected playback singer is an inspiring and guiding force to many a singer.
FOR MORE than three decades, he has virtually ruled the realm in playback music. His dulcet voice has won him innumerable accolades. It has a tenor that could merge with anything to everything from nature to human tonal variations. From devotional records, to semi classicals, from romantic solos to duets to filmy jazz, he handles the entire range of light music with ease and lan. That is SP (as he is fondly called) for you!
A record number of 35,000 songs to date, SP has a penchant for acting (movies and now in television serials) and has set music to nearly 45 films in all southern languages. With nearly 40 years of experience behind him, Padmashri Dr Sripathi Panditharadhyula Balasubrahmanyam (Balu) has today matured into a music analyst, a philosophist, a guru/guide and above all a principled musician in the field of playback singing. He voices his views on the present day trends and trendsetters, so to say.
Briefly dwelling on his early days, way back in 1966, when he was given his first break in a Telugu film Sri Sri Sri Maryada Ramanna by the then music composer, late S.P. Kodandapani, Balasubrahmanyam says there was no looking back ever since. Success has never gone to his head as is often construed. He is modest at heart and as a gesture of gratitude to his mentor, he has named his modern sound studio in Chennai-Kodandapani Audio Laboratories'.
Excerpts from an interview:
Q.Was music your first love since childhood? Have you a classical grounding?
I cannot say music was my first love since childhood. At that stage and age, there was no serious outlook or aspiration except studies. Later, as a young collegian, graduating as an engineer was my top priority. I did not entertain any serious notions about music, but then without my knowledge, music did play an important role in my life. Listening to recorded songs (like most students of his day) mostly Hindi numbers and Telugu was a sort of habit without which I couldn't pursue my studies! I have no classical grounding, not until now. I'm often told by many a music maestro that I'm immensely talented. May be I am. Sometimes, I am surprised as to how I am able to render even the toughest classical to the satisfaction of the composer. Of course, I put in a lot of hard work and riyaaz. I should say my talent is god's gift.
Q.How do you rate playback singing today as compared to days when you made a start?
Basically, the process of singing is same. But today technology plays a very vital part in playback singing. In fact it has made the whole job too easy. For instance, unlike in earlier times, the singer need not even render the whole song at one go and then wait for corrections. The present day singing artiste walks in at his or her convenience, sings a portion of the song and doesn't have to wait for a co-singer in case of a duet. In our times, it was not so. We were to go for a live recording where a lot of synch was mandatory between the co-singer and the full band of musicians. One slip by anyone in the group would call for an entire retake exercise. Singing then and now is the same; it is the technology that makes all the difference.
Q.Where does such a situation land the present day aspirant? Do you think classical music grounding is mandatory to playback singing?
High tech has its own pros and cons. For one, even a novice is made to feel comfortable rendering his/her first number since it will be a piece by piece recording giving a lot of breathing time and covers up foibles in voice, rendition, etc. Coming to the negative aspects of such a process, the singer loses out on exposure to a live orchestra. It is like an each on his own situation. You needn't know who is singing along with you or who is giving the background music. There is no guidance by a senior hand who sings along and modulates the singers' voice. Another glaring limitation of the system is that once the music track is recorded and later, hitches are detected, like for instance, the pitch may not be right or the tempo may not be apt for the particular singer, etc, nothing can be altered as the recording stands completed! In a live recording, you can feel these deficiencies then and there and can suggest suitable alterations that befit the singers, song and the orchestra.
Coming to classical grounding, in general, I am for a fairly good classical base even if it is playback or light music singing. Of course, too deep a classical foundation is bound to effect the style of film music rendition. Film numbers usually call for light and straight singing. With full-fledged classicists, the influence of traditional vasanaas may interfere which again is not a welcome thing in light music arena. There are some singers who are exceptionally gifted to sing both styles, who are able to bring a perfect match between their classical concerts and film singing without sacrificing one for the other or mixing up both. Such singers are rare.
Q.You have forayed into TV serials. How do you see yourself in this?
Whether it is a film or TV, I see acting as an offshoot of my singing. In my opinion, every singer is a good actor provided he/she is as comfortable before the camera as in front of the microphone. Then, the job is done. Interestingly, I knew there was an intelligent actor within me who waited to be explored. I started acting 25 years ago. My first film was Mohamad bin Tughlak. Of course, it was a song sequence. Later, I acted in 60 films spread across Telugu, Tamil and Kannada languages. Actually, I enjoy acting for different reasons. It gives me a lot of leisure between shoots. I enjoy what I do and so long as I'm comfortable doing I, its fine, isn't it?
Q.Have all the winners of your programme "Paadutha Theeyaga" made it to playback in films? Do you personally help them get a break?
Almost all of them made it, like Usha, Parthasarathy, Ramachary, Ramu, Kausalya Mallikarjun, Gopika Poornima, Nitya Santoshini to name a few. Yeah, I did suggest some of them to music directors. Most of the time, this programme has given them a good exposure to film industry.
Q.Like many a singer of your time, in Hindi field at least, why have you not ventured into Telugu pop?
If at all I want to do a private album, some cassette company should come forward to finance it. All the pop albums you listen to are not produced by singers but by music companies. Down south, the music companies are wary to venture into such an expensive domain when public response is not all that forthcoming. Pop is yet to catch on in these parts. The most popular private albums here are the devotional numbers in all languages and of all religions. They sell like hot cakes. I have done any number of them. Also, modern pop albums are not simple records. A lot of visualisation has to go into making an album, which means big budget. Well, if a music company evinces interest in me, I am game for a pop album too.
Q.Few years from hence, how do you see yourself- as a music director, playback singer or an actor?
I see myself as all these bundled into one. I have composed music for about 50-60 films and did background score to a couple of Hindi films also. I am sorry to say, I do not fit into the present genre of music composers' arena and therefore they do not want to give me an opportunity to do music. In case I'm approached, I agree, but on my own terms like recording it live, based on Indian melodies, etc. I see myself acting out a good role now and then my age and health withstanding, and also singing as long as my lungs permit. I'll be the same, perhaps a little aged, that's all.
Q.What would you like to say about your son?
Charan first sang for Ilayaraaja ( a duet in Tamil film). But it was Alaipaayudey (Sakhi in Telugu) in which he won recognition. As far as I see it, his real break is yet to come. There are reasons for the delay. For one, I don't recommend him to music directors. I believe he should come up on his own effort and talent. So far, whatever credit he bagged was all of his own. Second, the field is highly competitive and survival is tough. He is getting good offers though. Lastly, Charan has to face stringent standards set for him. He being the son of a popular and successful singer like me, is expected to come up to his father's standards. So far Charan has not let himself or his father down. Only time has to tell about his rise. He has a long way to go. He needs to concentrate and practice a lot more, learn a bit of classical music and strengthen his basics. He is seriously into acting and this doesn't give him time to do all that I suggest.
Q.Your comments on film music in south today.
There is a sea change in the film scenario. How far it is going to last is for us to wait and see. Going hi-tech is nothing wrong. But then it should not be to the detriment of music as such. Today, it is painful to say and see that music has fallen into the hands of those who do not even know the rudiments of the art form. Every sincere singer has a character to his voice, a range, a timbre, which has been meticulously cultivated. It is suicidal if such a singer is made to fall in line with high technicalities that call for a gory sacrifice of his talent. It is not as if I am in the sour grapes situation. I am a contented man. I've had my innings and to this day I am able to keep myself occupied and popular. My concern is for the present day playback artiste who is no artiste at all. It has become a fashion to introduce newcomers to sing in a language alien to them to set tunes.
They have no basic knowledge of music, no diligence to learn but are ready for the mike. Some of them go off-key with an equally ignorant director incapable of detection or correction. During our heyday, we too sang in different languages not our own. Yesudas, Janaki, Chitra and myself. But then we make it a point to know what we are singing and learn the language. My fear is that mediocrity might become the order of the future if this trend continues. Creative work is best achieved only in the hands of persons with proper grooming in the field.
Any Tom, Di*k and Harry cannot compose and what more, walk away with awards. I sympathise with the present generation of singers who lack guidance and are floundering. I only wish this purple patch will not last long."
- From: Lollu Party (@ 61.6.38.132)
on: Mon Feb 17 23:22:36 EST 2003
Pot calling the kettle black.
It is alright to be stupid, but not to know that one is stupid, is the sad thing. Realise yourself ambleen.
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