Topic started by bb (@ 24.6.231.170) on Wed Jul 7 00:37:21 EDT 2004.
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Saravanan is starting a new series on V.Kumar, titled 'V.Kumar: Malarum NinaivugaL'. He has been in touch with V.Kumar's wife and son and is planning a comprehensive series of articles on V.Kumar. I am sure this will be a treat for VK fans. This will also feature unique introductions to the songs by V.Kumar himself, in his own voice. Thanks to Govind and VK's family for their help on this.
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- From: raj (@ 203.197.142.162)
on: Wed Jul 7 02:11:58 EDT 2004
V.Kumar
That V prefixed should mean VETRI .. yes. The Songs which he gave to TFM are Precious Gems .
DD introduced VK to me. There was an interview with VK , Mano interviewed him. It was a diwali spl programme.
K.Balachander was the man behind Vkumar’s career Start!! Yes KB was adamant while doing Major Chandrakanth that MD should be VK otherwise I’m walking out of the film. Such was their relationship.
KB-VK-Vaali combo was a stunner in 60’s
Aduthathu Ambujatha paarthela by PS,TMS for Sowkar and Srikanth is still the best Brahmin dialect song in TFM – class song by VK
Oru naal Yaaro enna paadal by PS for Jayalalitha in Major Chandrakanth where in Nagesh adds music using various utensils .. once again a great tune by VK
Vinnukku meladai paruva mazhai megam by PS,TMS for KRV,Muthuraman in Naanal was a great song for the word play by suratha.
He can be called Jr.A.M.Raaja when comes to composition.
Saravanan , thanks for reminding this personality. Kudos to Saravanan, bb for this effort.
Looking forward for interesting tit bits and info ..
- From: Osho (@ 203.197.136.34)
on: Wed Jul 7 02:17:44 EDT 2004
Sara,
Thanx for the write up. This would do a great deal in knowing more about such gifted composers. I had heard "Unnidam Mayangugiren" by KJY and had always wondered, who the MD was. That single song, is a testimony to his talent. Hats off to him and a special thanx for saravanan to have come up with another wonderfull series.
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 203.126.245.198)
on: Wed Jul 7 05:19:07 EDT 2004
V.Kumar, a unusual music director who composed unusual and amusing songs, still lives in our memory as his songs live. Happy about this malarum ninaivuhal. Thanks for all the contributors.
KB-VK combination was popular. Then when did KB shift to MSV? What was the first movie in the second combination?
- From: e (@ 136.1.1.33)
on: Wed Jul 7 13:24:57 EDT 2004
http://newtfmpage.com/forum/22043.17.57.10.html
for listing of VK movies / gems
- From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74)
on: Wed Jul 7 14:51:44 EDT 2004
In the DD interview by mano (as raj mentioned) i remember three things VK said:
1) After tuning the song "unakkaenna kuRaichchal neeyO raaja" he impressed upon KB and made him to agree to his(VK's) choice of singer, none other than the great MSV. VK said "KB and producer were sceptical about how a busy MD(MSV) can sing, but i said that MSV would definitely sing for me, and he(MSV) immediately agreed to sing and he did. He(MSV) always had a good opinion about me".
2) "MSV has a high regard for my song 'unnidam mayangugiraen'. After he listened to that song whenever he met me he would say 'unnidam mayangugiraen' kumaaaaar pichchitae".
Such is the rapport between VK and MSV.
3) Mano: Sir, ippa irukkara paadalgaL ungaLukku pidikkumaa?
VK: mmm...romba nalla paattaellaam varudhae. ippa kooda raaja oru nalla paattu pOttirukkaar 'kaNmaNi anbOdu kaadhalan'. Indha tune aenakku romba pidichchirukku, romba pudhumayaa irukku.
Such is the openness of VK, when almost all other MDs would invariably say that they do not have much time to listen to their competetors' scores. VK was readily appreciated (and accepted) that he always liked others music.
- From: venkat (@ 128.100.63.11)
on: Wed Jul 7 15:08:35 EDT 2004
Saravanan, - Great work. I am sure you have the knowledge and dedication to do a master work out of this. (vinaiththitpam as vaLLuvar would say). I am looking forward.
I have only one request - could you make this available in Tamil script. With so much of advance and with Unicode Tamil becoming future-proof, I would like to read the interviews, essays, snippets in native tamil script.
- From: MS (@ 24.168.196.217)
on: Wed Jul 7 16:00:23 EDT 2004
pEsaama ovvoru MD + artist ukkum indha maadhiri oru topic koduththuttu SaravaNan i ezudha sollittu, naam haayaa saanjukittu pEsaama utkaarndhu padichchu kittu irukkalaam :-)
Apram ellaththaiyum compile paNNi book aa pOttudalaam.
- From: Kupps (@ 192.76.80.74)
on: Wed Jul 7 16:01:45 EDT 2004
copyright namma paerukkae vachchikkalaam ;-)
- From: ganspb (@ 170.220.2.13)
on: Wed Jul 7 17:53:02 EDT 2004
V.Kumar is indeed a gifted composer.
My all time favourite of him is
"Swaptha Swaram punnagayil kanden".
I heard from one of my knowledgable friends that IR played the Piano for the song 'Unnidam Mayangugiren'.
I am not sure and would be glad if someone can validate it.
- From: sk (@ 216.52.229.254)
on: Wed Jul 7 20:06:23 EDT 2004
V Kumar is a special composer. I love his music. Although he did not compose music for a great number of movies, his songs made a great impact and was loved by so many people. (This is obvious from the responses seen here.) It is so nice that Saravanan is making this effort to trace the works of VK. My sister (Sathya) is a big fan
of VK's songs. In one of the TFM pages (you'll find it if you follow the link given by "e") she has talked in detail about VK & his music troupe's visit to my hometown when we were school-goers and the impression that he made on everyone by his humane and musical qualities. It would be great if mp3's of every one of his compositions are collected and put up permanently in some web site with discussion and commentary such as the one Saravanan gives.
- From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.182)
on: Thu Jul 8 00:09:17 EDT 2004
Thank you friends, for such an encouraging response! I am very happy that there so many Kumar fans here.
sk, while I have many of Kumar's songs in CDs (including some rare ones) which I can upload, some of his songs I have only in cassettes. From time to time, I will be requesting you to provide the mp3s of those songs that I have only on tape.
And thanks a lot for the hint! I was moved by Sathya Kabali's memories of V.Kumar, which I am copying below again:
From: Sathya (@ ppp-15.ts-1.hp.idt.net) on: Mon Mar 23 18:13:40 EST 1998
V.Kumar enRathum, enakku ninaivukku varuvathu :
naan muthan muthalil paarththa, kEtta ligt music performance, V.K umarinudaiyathuthaan..1972/73 my high school days.Aruppukottai town. angu orE pozuthu pOkku 35 paisaa tharai ticket koduththu paarkkum cinemaathaan.Live light music performance enbathellaam, eppadi irukkum enRu theriyaatha kaalam.
very poor, poor, middle class intha vakai students iruntha engaL school. school vaathiyaarukku therinthavargaL veettil Kumar thangiyirunthaar. antha vaziyaaka vERu engO pOkum vaziyil. school paRRi sonnathum, "angu vENumnaa oru program kodukkalaamE" enRu VK sollavum, vaathyaar vanthu headmasteridam sonnaar. engappaathaan headmaster. cinemavaa, athu ethukku pasangaLukku enRu kEtpavar; (inRum athE kELviyai kEttuk koNdirukkiRaar enbathu vERu vishayam). nalla manushan sir; nalla isai amaippavar sir enRu headmasterai convince seythu vittaar vaaththiyaar; oru cyclostyle circular ellaa classukkum vanthathu; iravu 7 maNikku thiraippada isaiyamaippaaLar Kumarin program enRu.
iravu school groundil koottam sErnthu vittathu. en ammaavum vanthaargaL.avanga
K.Balachandarin visiRi; athanaal, Kumarin paadalkaL mika nanRaakath theriyum.kuttith thambi " Bones" was there. tavusar, sattai pOttuk koNdu naaL muzukka theruvil viLaiyaadum vayasu. maRanthu pOyirukkum..Kumar harmoniyaththudan ninRu nadaththiya kaatchi innum ninaivirukku. Svarna paadinaanga. anRuthaan Svarna avarathu manaivi enRu theriyum. romba eLimaiyaana, adakkamaana thambathiyar. "ivar ippO puthusaa paadukiRaar" enRu chinna vayathu Malaysia Vasudevanai aRimukam seythaar. 2 maNi nEram pOnathE theriyavillai.
veettukku pOkum munbu, ammaa Kumar, Svarna iruvaridamum senRu mika arumaiyaaka irunthathu enRu solla, " neengaL ellOrum rasiththu kEttathE periya santhOsham amma" enRaar. Kumar& co vai anuppi vaiththu vittu, veedu vantha appa sonnathu
"ivvaLavu eLimaiyaana, adakkamaana, paNivaana intha manushan eppadi intha cinemaa ulakaththil irukkiRaar? romba aachchariyamaa irukku."
anRu appa sonnapOthu avvaLavaaka puriyavillai. inRu V.Kumar paRRi ninaikkumpOthu anRu appa sonna vaarththaikaL thirumba olikkinRana. athil uLLa uNmai theLivaakap purikiRathu.
- From: venkat (@ 128.100.63.11)
on: Thu Jul 8 16:20:24 EDT 2004
see my blog today at
http://www.tamillinux.org/venkat/myblog
- From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50)
on: Thu Jul 8 18:18:30 EDT 2004
Saravanan, as always great effort by you, kudos.
Waiting to hear "sapthaswaram punnagayil kanden" sometime in SOTD, as I havent gotten hold of this song despite a long search.
- From: sk (@ 216.52.229.254)
on: Thu Jul 8 18:37:07 EDT 2004
Saravanan:
Thanks for re-posting my sister's write-up.
I would be very glad to make available any mp3's from my collection.
- From: e.hari (@ 141.153.211.97)
on: Thu Jul 8 21:55:50 EDT 2004
Vijay,
I got the song recorded in a tape last time I was in madras. The shop is in one of the side streets off ranganathan street. I recorded lot of other old 70's song too.
- From: ravisrinivas (@ 192.91.247.213)
on: Fri Jul 9 09:33:29 EDT 2004
was it true that vk scored music for a film in the late eighties under a different name and it sank without a trace?
- From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.11)
on: Fri Jul 9 10:07:21 EDT 2004
The best of V.Kumar are
Unnidam Mayagukirean
Madhavi Ponmayillal Thogaivirithaal.
- From: Dorai (@ 198.16.9.11)
on: Fri Jul 9 10:11:06 EDT 2004
I am sorry, Madhavi Ponmayillal is from MSV. I think there is some other song similar to this from V.Kumar...can't remember.
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