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Vani Jayaram's songs

Topic started by avvaiyar (@ 203.116.61.132) on Wed Jan 27 02:29:28 EST 1999.
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I'm a new visitor to this website. I couldn't see anyone discussing about Vani Jayaram's songs.
Let me start this one.(It had been there previously pls. forgive me!)

"Ezhu swarangalukkul ethanai paadal..
Ithaya surangathul ethanai kelvi...
Vaazhum manitharukkul ethanai salanam.."

Wow! Beautiful voice!

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VaniJairam.com - A site that has lots of info and songs of VJ.

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Responses:

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• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Tue Nov 18 23:06:22 EST 2003
  
  Saravanan -
  
  Enjoyed the third part immensely. Keep them coming!
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.99.73.50) on: Wed Nov 19 09:40:09 EST 2003
  
  Saravanan,
  
  It is amazing how you remember every minute detail. Can't wait for the next part of the serial.
  
  Here is a quiz for you. Do you have any information on this lovely duet. VJ&SNS(or Ramesh).
  
  Arambam Agum Ananda rAgam
  nAm pAdalAm mOhanam
  
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.109.28) on: Wed Nov 19 11:05:31 EST 2003
  
  Saravanan
  Hats off to your inimitable writing style and wonderful memory. Thanks for that instalment. I can clearly feel how well you enjoyed and cherished every moment of it - it is written all over your post.
  
  Can't wait for the next instalment - dayaa, dayaa....
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.13) on: Wed Nov 19 12:58:18 EST 2003
  
  Naaz/ Neel/ Kaumudi- Thanks!
  
  To tell the truth, I was not my usual observant self that day, and everything seems like a dream even now. And what I'm recollecting here is perhaps only 60% of whatever actually ought to be recorded. Perhaps once I finish, Suresh can step in the fill in the blanks!
  
  Neel, the song seems familiar, and I can even sing those lines, but am not able to identify the film now. It'll come back, don't worry. I've answered your question in the other thread, though.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Wed Nov 19 13:11:15 EST 2003
  
  Saravanan -
  
  You 60% is better than our (most) 110%! What sets your writing apart is not so much the detail (no shortage of that either) but the dedication to the ART of writing - a seamless confluence of images, observations, reactions and purpose. The result of this deligence can be summed up in just one word:
  LUCID.
  
  Soon is better than Late (hint :-))
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Thu Nov 20 03:50:48 EST 2003
  
  One of the benefits (or is it travails )of being what is conveniently categorised as middle management is attending seminars. I was off for a three day residential prog - which means staying back even late than normal & listening to lectures/case studies. The result was though we were connected I was too damn tired to look up the net.
  So i read about Naaz's chimera , saravanan at last turning up on his bday, OISG's statement about Saravanan's aversions to races of any kind, sriram concurring with me on the tingling business only today.
  Only my name sake has not responded to my thanks. The thanks have to be doubled.I have done the quick flip through and intend reading portions of VJ chronology at random in between the mundane things that go as office work.
  
  Only if someone would do the same for PBS :-(
  The third installment was as usual!
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Thu Nov 20 03:54:57 EST 2003
  
  Read "which meant" instead of which means in the prepost!
  
  
• From: sriram (@ 163.181.251.10) on: Thu Nov 20 10:23:16 EST 2003
  
  one for PBS, one for PS, one for SPB... but only one Saravanan! I think avar full-time idhula eranginaa dhaan mudiyum.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Thu Nov 20 12:10:47 EST 2003
  
  Sriram / Vengayam -
  
  All the fine singers you mention have double (if not triple) the number of songs in TFM, and as such, the listings and revelations of their songs can go on forever, and still never be comprehensive.
  VJ, on the other hand, has a manageable number (in TFM) and hence is a realistic choice. I believe this must have played a significant role in Saravanan's choice of subject.
  Of course, it is also a sign of Saravanan's superior taste in TF Music! :-)
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.13) on: Thu Nov 20 12:51:43 EST 2003
  
  Methinks the highly enlightened people frequenting this thread, and their whole-hearted encouragement was the major reason:), apart from the fascinating subject, of course! What say?
  
  
• From: vijay (@ 68.16.25.50) on: Thu Nov 20 13:11:01 EST 2003
  
  Saravanan, if you could write something like this for the early years of IR and have it bound, I will probably buy a copy or two :-) My request to you is that you can probably help the Rajaangahm guys to complete their unfinished, erroneous "database" on IR songs.I am guessing that shouldnt be too much time consuming for you as they already have put together a huge list in their site. In case you get an interest in that some day let me know.
  
  I think another idea would be to upload your VJ encyclopaedia(and other series of articles) in PDF format somewhere in DF page or on the net if that could be done. Easy to print it out.
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 195.229.241.235) on: Thu Nov 20 13:34:08 EST 2003
  
  Vijay, a little more than a year back, I did try to offer some corrections, and some additions in Rajaangahm, using their 'edit' option, but they were not accepted.
  
  Maybe I'll try again sometime later.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.186) on: Thu Nov 20 16:16:41 EST 2003
  
  Now, if only I could have a "Telugu" Saravanan cloned........!!!!!
  
  
• From: sriram (@ 163.181.251.10) on: Thu Nov 20 17:38:38 EST 2003
  
  I'm sure the "Tamil" Saravanan knows everything that there is to know in TeFM as well :-)
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.186) on: Thu Nov 20 19:52:53 EST 2003
  
  Appadiya Saravanan? I think I can believe that!!
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Thu Nov 20 21:45:35 EST 2003
  
  naaz,
  I can't let it go unchallenged! Superior test is a subjective thing, I'll let it pass. Saravanan would vouch that PBS would have sung probably the same no of songs as VJ and I believe( I am on firm ground here) that PBS's conversion ratio is the highest in the land! Hits as a percentage of total songs sung!!!
  At the cost of accusations of flogging a dead horse , I once again state VJ is very fortunate to have such a dedicated following.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Thu Nov 20 22:00:20 EST 2003
  
  vengayam -
  
  And rising to the challenge, I would just reiterate what you have said yourself: Superior test is a personal thing, indeed. And without claims to exclusivity, I'd happily vouch for Saravanan's superior taste. You'd call it subjectivity, and I'll nod and say, how telling indeed. :-)
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Thu Nov 20 22:37:31 EST 2003
  
  Naaz,
  But about the conversion ratio! Saravanan, I am sure , is not into exclusivity business. I am only guessing that He started this exercise accidentally (incidentally?). His cogent style kept us glued to his words and he went on. It could so easily have been in a PBS thread and the roles might have been reversed ( Naaz writing my earlier post!:-)) I'll continue to read the chronology but my point still remains. I hope he one day does the same for PBS.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.99.73.50) on: Thu Nov 20 22:45:12 EST 2003
  
  Vengayam, the highest "conversion ratio" probably belongs to Jency.
  
  
• From: Naaz (@ 24.87.30.219) on: Thu Nov 20 23:20:24 EST 2003
  
  vengayam -
  
  I am not too sure I get what you mean by "conversion ratio." If you mean (and I think this is what you mean): Number of Songs / And Number of Hits within that "defined" List (although I am reluctant to play the numbers game) - by all means, go ahead. It would help to define the list exclusively on solos (as duets take collaborative / shared credit.)
  
  It could have easily been PBS, you're right there.
  And, if it was indeed the roll of the dice (accidental/incidental/detrimental,) why would you deny this happy possibility: coincidence meets subjectivity. Can happen, no? :-)
  
  I am sure there are a lot of people here (and elsewhere) who will concur and extol(yours truly included) the immeasurable talent of PBS and his status as living legend. But, somehow, that same / on par excellence of VJ would be given short-shrift. Hence it is not new or revealing to note then that Saravanan's "cogent style" gets top billing (much deserved, no doubt) over the singer who might have prompted such exquisite flourish in the first place! Ask yourself this: would you separate the two had the write-ups been about PBS? Wouldn't you, in that reversed world, rejoice that the coincidence so wondrously endorsed your own subjectivity? Would you be able to keep yourself from complimenting his "superior" taste? (inwardly or outwardly.)
  
  But here's where the difference will be:
  I'll join that following of PBS (and if S writes about him, I will both read and participate) without a moment's hesitation. Because, in my estimation, PBS and VJ (and a few others) are in a pantheon where there is no first among equals.
  
  But, you're still rehearsing that essential gesture perhaps.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: vengayam (@ 203.200.84.67) on: Fri Nov 21 00:11:09 EST 2003
  
  It was not my intention to humiliate , demean or take anything away from VJ. Let me put it this way - just for a moment ,suppose, I had started writing about PBS in a similar thread. Even amongst his fans the response would have been less. That is where the cogent style comes. I was only praising Saravanan . Surely that doesn't mean I am taking anything away from VJ.
  Re participation ,if S were to write on PBS you would do it but ,U see I am already doing it . No doubt I fully agree with your sentiment " PBS and VJ (and a few others) are in a pantheon where there is no first among equals" but u feel strongly for VJ and I for PBS.
  
  By the way have they sung together at all?
  
  Tail piece:I can't forget the time u chided me for terming neerada as a song where VJ was in middling form . That is an indirect spin off . you can sometimes improve your English, short of diction of course ;-)
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Saravanan (@ 213.42.2.13) on: Fri Nov 21 00:16:54 EST 2003
  
  Vengayam/Naaz: Podhum saami podhum saami podhumm ( remember VJ's song in Achamillai achamillai ;)
  
  Meeting Greatness- Part 4
  
  Continues Vairamuthu in his ‘Kuyilin Kootil Konjaneram’:
  
  “Veetai sutri kaatugiraar--
  
  Ovvor araiyilum thooimaiyum azhagum arasochugindrana--
  
  Angae aadambarathin viswaroobamillai--
  
  Azhagu adakkamaaga irukkirathu”.
  
  Poets do have a tendency to overstate, but Vairamuthu was just reporting the truth when he wrote those lines.
  
  J pointed out some of the prestigious awards that V has won, which were displayed on a showcase mounted on the wall. “Jairamji, show him the lower shelf- he’ll be very interested ” V called from the kitchen. J smiled and opened two shelves that were below the showcase, and I held my breath- the shelves were filled with EP/ LP records of films in which V had sung! I looked at them till I could look no more--
  
  The sitting room opens into a large, airy dining room. And as J took us past the beautiful Pooja room, V joined us. As we bowed to those deities polished to perfection, V said “Every morning, I clean them, perform the abishegam, and change the vasthram. Prayers are something that I do whole-heartedly everyday” Both work and worship are whole-hearted activities for her!
  
  V continued “ For many years we lived in our own house in Alwarpet, we bought the plot from the owners of “The Hindu” and built our house there.”
  “Mayurapriya?” I asked, with an innocent look.
  “Yes” V answered, with a surprised smile, “ that was what we named that house”
  (I offered Vairamuthu mental thanks ;) (“Mayurapriya- Than veetukku mayil endru peyar vaithirukkiradhae oru kuyil endru manathukkuL rasithu koLgiraen” says he in his book)
  
  “But as we were traveling most of the time, we found it increasingly difficult to maintain that large house” added J. “So we had to take the difficult decision of selling it. Only recently we bought this apartment and came here”
  
  And as V went back into the kitchen, we had a quick glimpse at their bedroom, and J then took us to another room, where all their recording equipment (from their erstwhile Bani Studio) has been reassembled. J was nostalgic when he spoke about the studio and the illustrious artistes who had come there to get their recordings done—“ You name them—they have all come to us—we never compromised on quality. Those were wonderful times. Our Studio was humming with activity from morning to night. We used to have great singers queuing for recording time. We had some very good technicians with us. All the albums that came out from our recording center were appreciated of the excellent sound quality.”
  
  We looked around the now rarely used equipment, we realized that they were still being taken care of so well- not a speck of dust anywhere, they were gleaming and ready to be used any minute—“ Times changed—everything became computerized, and there were hardly anyone who still wanted to do recordings the old-fashioned way. And so we had to shut down” said J, with a trace of regret in his voice. Suresh and J then had a highly technical discussion on recording equipments then and now, advancements in sound technology etc.
  
  Even as J was talking to us here, another sound wafted unobtrusively to us—that of V humming to herself, as she was busy making tea in the kitchen. She wasn’t even aware that we could hear her, but as her voice went up and down, enjoying itself with the notes of some little known Hindustani Geet, we automatically fell silent and listened in awe, for how many fans could get this opportunity of listening to her at such close quarters? Kuyilin kootil konja neram engalai marandhom--
  
  

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