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Shankar-Ehsan-Loy !

Topic started by cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on Sun Jun 24 00:21:11 EDT 2001.
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Shankar-Ehsan-Loy...maybe the only other MD with Bollywood roots also composing for TF....I was listening to their "Dil Chahta Hai"..except for the title track, all the other songs seem to meander around...but they are the only ones around in Bollywood who give a original techno touch to their music apart from ARR.

"Aalavandhaan" is their next big TF release...would like to hear your opinions on this trio.

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• From: Ehsaan (@ 203.197.50.107) on: Sat Sep 1 13:13:13 EDT 2001
  
  Well were doing a Hindi pop kind of thing but it will be different from anything else thats been done. We are thinking about dubbing it in Tamil as well. Lets see .
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Sat Sep 1 13:24:43 EDT 2001
  
  Ehsaan:
  >>>BGM sorry for being so un - modest but watch mission Kashmir and Dil Chahta Hai.
  
  You need not feel un-modest. Actually, your BGM was great in MK. You people have brought some new light into hindi film music, where only dholaks and tablas are used always. As, I said earlier, you guys have added a new dimention to HFM (Hindi Film Music). Songs like "bumbro" in MK would have had only tabla and dholaks with some untimely use of western instruments had it gone into the hands some other MD in HFM.
  
  Please, answer some questions.?
  
  What is the roll of each one of you in your team?
  What sort of music you people are comfurtable with?
  What does Shankar do? I know that he can sing almost all kinds of songs.
  Is Loy , the Loy Mendosa, who used to do TV serial title tracks.? I have heard one of Loy Mendosa's score for some quiz program or so by Sidhaarth Basu.
  
  Too many questions...isn't it?
  
  
  
  
  
• From: rf (@ 152.163.204.62) on: Sat Sep 1 13:25:19 EDT 2001
  
  Hi Ehsaan: Good Yet another day!
  
  My questions: do you get tunes in your mind or do you go with a basic melody and develop it. Since i listen to too much music, I get new tunes in my sleep, unfortunatley i don't know abc of composing so the tunes get lost in my dreams...
  
  2. For such an intense film as Abhay, why did n't Kamal have Ilayaraaja for the bgm in lieu of Mahesh?
  
  3. Your musical leanings could mean that ur music will sound more rockish and American rather than the melody and harmony' that imbibe compositions of composers whose favorites were mostly the soft pop or classical type of music. What do you think will be your styles in the future? ARR himself as i understand has liking for melody and harmony than the tupe of music in rock or jazz. So, u can see his output is very different than yours and looks more Indian than yours.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: rf (@ 152.163.204.62) on: Sat Sep 1 13:25:50 EDT 2001
  
  Hi Ehsaan: Good Yet another day!
  
  My questions: do you get tunes in your mind or do you go with a basic melody and develop it. Since i listen to too much music, I get new tunes in my sleep, unfortunatley i don't know abc of composing so the tunes get lost in my dreams...
  
  2. For such an intense film as Abhay, why did n't Kamal have Ilayaraaja for the bgm in lieu of Mahesh?
  
  3. Your musical leanings could mean that ur music will sound more rockish and American rather than the melody and harmony' that imbibe compositions of composers whose favorites were mostly the soft pop or classical type of music. What do you think will be your styles in the future? ARR himself as i understand has liking for melody and harmony than the tupe of music in rock or jazz. So, u can see his output is very different than yours and looks more Indian than yours.
  
  Thank you. very nice seeing your responses!!!!
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Sat Sep 1 13:43:45 EDT 2001
  
  
  http://www.themusicmagazine.com/aalavanthaan.html
  
  Can somebody review this review.?
  
  
• From: KS (@ 166.44.246.11) on: Sat Sep 1 14:20:02 EDT 2001
  
  CF,
  
  I guess, the reviewer is trying to be different too!!! :-))
  
  
• From: KS (@ 166.44.246.11) on: Sat Sep 1 14:22:37 EDT 2001
  
  Ehsaan,
  
  I liked your work in MK. The songs were good and the BGM heightened the scenes. Very commendable work indeed.
  
  Yet to watch the other two:-((
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 203.197.75.151) on: Sat Sep 1 14:54:21 EDT 2001
  
  Hi Common Friend by and by Shankar and I compose most of the melodies . Loy comes in later or sometimes he adds to the melody. Loy does most of the sequencing and keyboard parts in the studio but all 3 of us play keyboards , i play guitar , shankr takes over vocal supervision , i create and program synthesizer patches so basically we do all the stuff ourselves. we get ARR 's orchestrator Murthy to orcehstrate for us because the string section in Chennai is the best. Essentialy we dont ahve a very set way of working it could be chaotic !!!
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 24.4.252.4) on: Sat Sep 1 14:57:49 EDT 2001
  
  hi Ehsaan,
  Thanks for the answer.
  
  What keyboards you use ?
  
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 203.197.75.151) on: Sat Sep 1 15:03:32 EDT 2001
  
  Hi rf
  well melodies come out of the blue and in the strangest of places ..... in the back of a cab , while eating. sometimes sits down to compose nothing happnes,
  i have no idea s to why Illyaraja did not do the score of the film or why Kamal dindt ask him.
  my musical leanings and preferences just make me a more adept musician and the advertising background gives us the ability to create different kinds of music. if you hear dil chahta hai theres trance in there , theres rock , world music , african stuff , latin and its all done with commitment not the kind of stuff you hear our bollywood guys turn out. ARR too had a background in rock and advertising and basically a muscial background where he was adept in myriad styles of music.if u hear the soundtrack that we are doing for a film called Kuch na kaho directed by Rohan Sippy ... Ramesh Sippy's son you will hear a completely different side of us very Indian. Like wise with a film called Shafaq starring Mamooty which is in Hindi and Tamil.
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 203.197.75.151) on: Sat Sep 1 15:07:27 EDT 2001
  
  hi Srikanth
  Loy and I have the following stuff
  Nord Lead 3
  Korg Z1
  Korg Wavestation
  Novation Supernova
  Roland Jd 990
  Roland Jv 2080
  Kawai K 5000 R
  Kurzweil K 2600 R
  Roland 760 's
  Emu E4 Ultra
  Akai S3200
  Korg Triton
  We also use Reason and Logic Audio
  
  
• From: amit (@ 154.11.172.196) on: Sat Sep 1 15:43:23 EDT 2001
  
  Mr Ehsaan...thanks for your comments and inside scoop on Aalavandaan. The music sounds fresh and very different from the run of the mill tf albums. Thanks for re-introducing the concept of scoring music to fit the situations (only IR sir seems to be doing it nowadays)
  
  One very simple question...have you watched a finished cut of the film? If so, how has it shaped up?
  
  
• From: Krish (@ 63.25.20.73) on: Sat Sep 1 17:03:48 EDT 2001
  
  Hi Ehsaan,
  
  Interesting ensemble of gadgets... Weighted very much towards Korg and Roland... Ofcourse... Do you use any acoustic instruments at all? Is Logic that good? What's Reason? And have you tried the latest CakeWalk?
  
  Changing the topic, I do agree with your explanation for the music. It wouldn't be good composing unless it is done for the specific scene. But coming from a background of watching the usual Indian movies with a unflinching repertoire of cliched songs, you cannot blame us for expecting something from the norm... ;)
  
  But I would definitely watch the movie and comment then, about your work. Then, we'll probably find out the true calibre of your work. Still your (I mean all the three) work is very different and nice. I'm glad to find someone who doesn't just lift songs from somewhere else, but combines their musical influences and presents them in the nicest possible way.
  
  More than everything, I like people who recognize their contemporaries... You really impressed me...
  
  Krish
  
  
• From: curious (@ 192.122.139.198) on: Sat Sep 1 22:36:46 EDT 2001
  
  Hi Ehsaan, who is this newcomer Nandhini. promising talent.
  
  
• From: srikanth (@ 24.4.253.20) on: Sat Sep 1 23:12:44 EDT 2001
  
  Hi Ehsaan
  
  thanks for the info, very impressive.
  I am a big fan of shanker, oflate started to worship his voice :) and his range is awesome
  
  
  btw: i have met loy way back in 1994 in Chennai
  (Mr.Bala's residence), he might not remember me. He played us some beatles numbers. please convey my regards.
  
  As krish mentioned have you tried cakwalk sonar, we have tried it Efx are really cool..:)
  
  whos idea was "Seri seri" laugh loop ?, it is really cool, (who in the sense, kamals or your team?:)
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Sep 2 00:38:36 EDT 2001
  
  >>Well were doing a Hindi pop kind of thing but it will be different from anything else thats been done. We are thinking about dubbing it in Tamil as well. Lets see . <<
  
  That's great...can't wait to hear it !
  
  
• From: KS (@ 166.44.246.201) on: Sun Sep 2 01:27:32 EDT 2001
  
  Ehsaan,
  
  Listened to Aalavanthan songs. The title track is quiet good. The R&D in 'seri seri' was great. Looks like a very good team work! Great going!!
  
  
• From: Ehsaan (@ 203.197.53.60) on: Sun Sep 2 02:02:11 EDT 2001
  
  Curios
  Nandini is a wonderful singer / guitarist / composer from Pune who is just waiting to get her breaks. She is Tamilian. Infact she sang a song long ago called " I Love you you Love me too " for Vidyasagar. She is also co writing some songs with Ranjit Barot for an upcoming Tamil film.
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sun Sep 2 05:51:34 EDT 2001
  
  Ehsaan....do you think Rakesh Mehra's "Aks" with a similar psycho killer theme and poetic elucidations will take some of the "newness" from Abhay ?
  
  
• From: Common Friend (@ 203.197.141.187) on: Sun Sep 2 07:02:55 EDT 2001
  
  Ehsaan:
  Good to see to back into this forum. Keep comming. Let's not only discuss your music alone.
  You should be listning to all the new releases that's happening in HFM and TFM also. You can comment on that . Also, please tell us your favouroits , like MD, Song, film and why you like them. Tell us about some thing inner in a perticular song or MD that you like and as a MD yourself, you should be knowing better.
  Your experience (or inexperience if any) ...let's also talk about all these things. Ofcourse, all this is subject to whether you would like to share your comments with us or not.
  
  Any way thanx for your reply.
  
  
• From: vardhini (@ 61.11.77.130) on: Sun Sep 2 07:48:20 EDT 2001
  
  mr ehsaan, please tell me about your group's opinion on the living legend Shri S.P. Balasubramaniam, one among greatest ever in India. there are several threads in this forum on his greatness. Please post your comments here.
  
  

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