Topic started by rajan (@ 217.30.80.209) on Wed Jan 10 18:03:40 EST 2001.
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I heard that IR/GA used the works of Henry Daniel, a piano player, in the 70s and that several of their songs were his. Can someone clarify? Who is this Henry Daniel?
Thanks in advance,
Rajan.
Responses:
- From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 64.12.101.158)
on: Wed Jan 10 18:36:54 EST 2001
rajan,
I'm also very eager to know about Henry Daniel.
I guess, he is the person who played piano for 'Enna Enna vaarthaigazho', 'Unnidam mayangugiren' songs. I've heard that himself and Joseph Krishna helped MSV a lot in orchestration.
Nowadays, in cine field, it is difficult to find anyone playing piano like him.
If anyone knows any info about him, please share with us.
- From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201)
on: Wed Jan 10 18:50:44 EST 2001
http://www.google.com/custom?q=henry+daniel&site=search&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&cof=L%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.newtfmpage.com%2Ftfmpage.gif%3BLH%3A90%3BLW%3A600%3BBGC%3A%23ffffff%3BT%3Ablack%3BLC%3Ablue%3BVLC%3Apurple%3BAH%3Acenter%3B&sitesearch=newtfmpage.com
- From: Naveen (@ 205.188.195.23)
on: Wed Jan 10 19:30:30 EST 2001
bb,
thanx for the links. do you know any other info about Henry Daniel? Has he released any albums?
Naveen
- From: alpam (@ 63.214.87.141)
on: Thu Jan 11 09:27:40 EST 2001
rajan - do u mean to say IR/GA stole Henry Daniel's works too! :-)
- From: Venki (@ 12.35.64.19)
on: Thu Jan 11 12:33:11 EST 2001
People are trying hard to prove that IR Copied. Pagal Kanavu. Kalikaalam unmaithaan
- From: Alpaayisu (@ 63.214.64.107)
on: Thu Jan 11 12:55:41 EST 2001
pagal kollai adikkum bodhu - pagal kanavu kaanardhula thappu undo :-)
- From: Velai_Vetti_nothing (@ 64.208.81.180)
on: Thu Jan 11 13:00:51 EST 2001
shortlife -- are you talking about Arr ? :-)
- From: yaaro (@ 212.134.18.68)
on: Thu Jan 11 20:56:53 EST 2001
basically,i see a desperation in ARR's fans postings here-IR's music is still going strong even at 800 movies-they just cant digest this at all-listen ti manjal poosum and thendral varum-fresh as morning dew-no repetitions!will anyone else be able to do this -let alone composing 800 movies-sounding fresh after 25 -30 years of music?will ARR be able to compose for 800 movies?in your dreams may be!go to this link-dont think IR's fans are living in past glory!http://network54.com/Hide/Forum/thread?forumid=89102&messageid=978021660
Munnorgal moodargal alla!
for us,he is the best ever MD india has produced!If you dont think so,ok,that is your opinion-but why get agitated and post nonsense?
- From: fliflo (@ 130.203.168.240)
on: Thu Jan 11 21:29:02 EST 2001
yaaro:
you're damn right. ARR's music is very artificial and except a few songs you never get the original feeling. He needs 6 months or more to tailor a music, which is something hearable. There are many ARR's coming (who can do as well as copying and some keyboard stuffs) and I see there is big challenge before him. Whether he survives or not only time decides.
(No offense on anybody..just my feeling)
- From: Velai_Vetti_nothing (@ 64.208.81.180)
on: Fri Jan 12 13:43:48 EST 2001
what does arr go to do with this ?
someone told some thing.......why drag arr into it. I am sad to see so much negative feelings in this df.
- From: fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Fri Jan 12 14:07:11 EST 2001
VVN:
I agree....I will stop this
- From: fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Fri Jan 12 15:04:37 EST 2001
VVN..Interestingly, I just found that discussion on ARR was staarted by you only...
- From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ )
on: Sun Jan 28 12:23:59 EST 2001
Hi,
My uncle said that Henry Daniel was a Violinist and he is not sure about Joseph Krishna. He said that JK used to be an assistant music director for various MDs (I guess MSV) Please clarify about this. I'm kind of confused!
Naveen
- From: S T S (@ 65.3.195.189)
on: Sun Jan 28 12:47:12 EST 2001
Joseph Krishna was assistant MD for MSV. Have not heard about Henry Daniel though
- From: Naveen (@ 205.188.192.36)
on: Sun Jan 28 12:51:22 EST 2001
STS,
is Joseph Krishna a Pianist too? whoever it is... I love his piano playing style.
Naveen
- From: no velai no vetti (@ 198.73.152.100)
on: Mon Jan 29 16:05:38 EST 2001
Is Henry Daniel in any way related to Jack Daniel(s)????
ayyooo adikavaratheenga. summa therinjukalamennu kaeten. ambututhaeng!
- From: Roy (@ 203.199.236.202)
on: Wed Jan 31 10:00:43 EST 2001
Henry Daniel and Joseph krishna were Assistant music directors who assisted MSV. They were well versed in Piano and western violin.
Fliflo, Velai_Vetti_nothing and others who rarely discuss music in tfm forum should not mistake me when I place this fact -
Henry Daniel joined IR orchestra in late 70s and that was his last experience since he was openly insulted in the studios by IR, and the poor senior musician left his profession and passed away later.
Joseph krishna who remained an assistant to MSV was good in piano and violin. He remained in his standard and became a Religious preacher before he passed away, content as a musician.
- From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 204.255.14.188)
on: Wed Jan 31 11:21:24 EST 2001
Hi Roy,
Thanks for the information about Henry Daniel & Joseph Krishna. I'm very sorry to hear that both of them passed away. Please let me know if they had done any private albums.
Regards,
Naveen
- From: bb (@ 216.217.80.201)
on: Wed Jan 31 13:19:44 EST 2001
why was he insulted by IR?
- From: fan (@ 63.225.173.39)
on: Wed Jan 31 13:54:38 EST 2001
Roy sir, how do you know this ?
Are you the "famous" Roy who played bass for msv ?
- From: paamaran (@ 207.188.29.249)
on: Wed Jan 31 14:05:32 EST 2001
Fellow DFers
This 203.19x.x.x mania is corrupting :) all the threads........
Geez how many names this fellow can get into......
- From: UV (@ 134.113.203.137)
on: Wed Jan 31 15:36:03 EST 2001
Aiyoo Kannungala
Adutha Topikku pogalama.
Nachu thangamudiyale (read it like Goundamani)
:)
- From: peeps (@ 202.54.13.6)
on: Thu Feb 1 01:15:48 EST 2001
i had a friend called Henry Daniel in my school days..besides that i dont know any Henry Daniel...
if anyone knows him please inform to be as he has to give me 360 rupees...:-):-)
- From: Roger Baptista (@ 202.9.188.102)
on: Thu Feb 1 01:20:42 EST 2001
As far as I know Henry Daniel and Joseph Krishna were orchestral assistants working for Viswanathan Ramamurthy, giving final touches to orchestration as VS Narsimhan,Sax Raja does (!did) for IR movies.
Their versatile playing can be heard from pre 70 piano songs where MGR, Sivaji played the piano in films singing their hearts out, like Pudhiya Paravai songs, Enna enna varthaigalo, Kann pona pokkiley, Ellorum nalam vazha (joseph krishna) etc. Old Avm movie shows a film clip for the song Avalukkenna azaghiya mugam, which showed Viswanathan conducting an orchestra while TMS sings. You can see all old musicians like HD/JK seated.
I do not know about IR,but Viswanathan Ramamurthy and KV Mahadevan had lots of regards for these musicians and exchange warmth with their families.
- From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 152.163.194.211)
on: Thu Feb 1 07:43:01 EST 2001
Dear Roger,
That was a valuable information for us. Please continue..
Regards,
Naveen
guys,
is 'Avallukkenna azhagiya mugam' song from 'Server Sundaram' movie? I cannot wait.. I want to see those geniuses right now :)
Naveen
- From: BPS (@ 38.32.76.188)
on: Fri Feb 2 20:35:12 EST 2001
Hi,
I am the webmaster of the official Sirkali Home Page. This is to inform fans of Drs. Sirkali that the web address has changed from
http://www.icdc.com/~sirkali (or w3)
to
http://www.sirkali.org
Please change your bookmarks to point to this new link.
Thank You very much,
Balaji Pratap Sirkali (grandson of Dr. Sirkali Govindarajan, nephew of Dr. Sirkali Siva Chidambaram)
http://www.sirkali.org
balaji_p_sirkali@hotmail.com
- From: Roy (@ 203.199.236.218)
on: Mon Feb 5 14:13:50 EST 2001
Listen to Piano pieces in "Paartha Gnabagam Illayo" (Pudiya Paravai), "Enna Enna Varthaigalo"-P Suseela song,
"Manithan enbavan theivamagalam"-PB Srinivas song, "Kann Pona Pokkile"-TMS song, these songs had Henry Daniels Piano.
"Ellorum Nalam Vazha"-TMS song, "Paaduvor Paadinaal Aadathondrum" -TMS in MGR film, "Jilukkadi Jilukkadi Jigina"-TMS,Sirkazhi, etc were played by Joseph Krishna.
Those were the tamil songs which exposed me to Piano and made me appear for Trinity college exams through Emmanuel school of music. My master Late George Harris will discuss about their sounding and playing styles.
Hats off to the solo composed by the great music directors (I think it is mostly MSV) of their times. It is more important to compose & perform tastefully than to graduate with distinction and do nothing for piano in tfm.
Paamaran- Dont get perplexed with 203.1xxx, which is unwanted. Consider facts!
- From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 204.255.14.188)
on: Mon Feb 5 15:39:16 EST 2001
Roy,
I can understand the meaning of your polambal
:)
Naveen
- From: aruLaracan (@ 134.124.160.10)
on: Mon Feb 5 16:13:25 EST 2001
naveen,
as the saying goes, the beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, but the beast on the tongue of the orator! :-) there are veiled attacks at you-know-who (who has contributed if not more than anyone else, at least as much) by these cronies which hurt genuine music lovers. anyways, i have learnt to ignore such idiocy.
- From: Naveen Jebaraj (@ 204.255.14.188)
on: Mon Feb 5 16:23:45 EST 2001
c'mon aruLaracan.. I'm trying to say Roy is scolding himself as he has passed Trinity College exams and not doing anything for TFM (I don't know whether he has played piano for IR.. Roy! have you played piano for MSV or IR?)
It is nice talking to people like you in this DF :)
Naveen
- From: Velaiyaththavan (@ 129.252.222.2)
on: Mon Feb 5 18:14:05 EST 2001
peeps, 360 ? Believe me he has come a full circle and forget it :-)
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