Topic started by NChari (@ 203.199.236.198) on Tue Jan 23 15:05:26 EST 2001.
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Why is he still quiet and making humble notes about the new MDs and their new songs?
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- From: BPS (@ 38.32.76.188)
on: Fri Feb 2 20:41:37 EST 2001
Hi,
I am the webmaster of the official Sirkali Home Page. This is to inform fans of Drs. Sirkali that the web address has changed from
http://www.icdc.com/~sirkali (or w3)
to
http://www.sirkali.org
Please change your bookmarks to point to this new link.
Thank You very much,
Balaji Pratap Sirkali (grandson of Dr. Sirkali Govindarajan, nephew of Dr. Sirkali Siva Chidambaram)
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- From: M (@ 24.64.158.52)
on: Fri Feb 2 22:03:56 EST 2001
Hi all,
check this site for MSV collection. What a voice, fantastic. Thanks to Fliflo for the pointer.!!
http://www.kumudam.com/music/mainpage.html
- From: sk (@ 137.132.2.110)
on: Fri Feb 2 23:24:29 EST 2001
M:
What a voice, fantastic...
Do you really think so???? :-)))
- From: info (@ 63.226.194.219)
on: Fri Feb 2 23:40:12 EST 2001
sk..what ever... all the songs found in that list were mega hits.
- From: pandu (@ 203.199.236.218)
on: Mon Feb 5 11:40:23 EST 2001
sk-
I beg to differ from you. Please understand that MDs like MSV were forced to sing by the directors and from interviews one comes to know, that even doyens like P Suseela have gone to the extent of shedding tears, openly expressing that she was unable to sing certain touches of MSV, those days.
But MSV is one man who preferred trained voices and used them , but for a chosen few WHICH HE SANG WITH PERFECTION OF SHRUTHI, EXPRESSION AND CLEAR DICTION. His voice has a range, he sounds only with the harmonium, unison with the shruthi.
Iam sorry for digression. Please listen to other MDs sing, observe the above points and come to a conclusion please.
- From: G.Ragavan (@ 164.164.128.13)
on: Wed Feb 7 00:35:24 EST 2001
Chandthippu:
naan vaangki vandthendi naalu mozam poovu
vaarthai naanadi kannama
aanandtham villaiyaadum veedu
Maadi Veetu Ezai:
Anpu Ennum Nalla Then Kalandthu
Muthamiz Sondthangkal
- From: Badri (@ 202.9.174.200)
on: Thu Feb 8 08:25:47 EST 2001
MSV is no doubt a great maestro. In fact he can be called a 'greater' maestro if you consider his humility as a human bieng. To quote an incidence -When the film industry felicitated Kalaignar Karunanidhi, MSV - Gangai Amaran and others joined with other music directors and performed songs live on the stage. When the 'maestro' Ilayaraja refused to sing with the orchestra demanding a seperate identity to sing alone with his own composition (all full of soap and ice), MSV was courteous in accompanying him on his harmonium and forced his tabla player and his singers like Kovai soundararajan, Mano,Sivachidambaram etc who came to sing for him to join the singing! It was telecast live in Sun TV and watched all over the world! In fact MSV helped him with some chord minor note and things like that and also sang a few lines to help Ilayaraja sing. That is the sort of warmth and respect that a "Great maestro" like MSV showed for a music director like maestro ilayaraja in public!
Iam sure everyone knows that Maestro is not a title like Sir, Lord, or Pandit conferred on Ilayaraja. It was a letter of appreciation from the London Orchestra where he did a music direction.One should understand-
IT IS NICE TO BE IMPORTANT. BUT, IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO BE NICE! Yes, MSV is a nice person, as I saw point blank in Sun TV telecast.
- From: curiouus (@ 216.71.84.237)
on: Thu Feb 8 11:29:23 EST 2001
Badri, whats your point?
- From: curious (@ 216.71.84.237)
on: Thu Feb 8 11:30:14 EST 2001
Mother Theresa is such a kind and loving person. Let us call her also a maestro. Gimme a break
- From: Fliflo (@ 146.186.113.254)
on: Thu Feb 8 12:15:02 EST 2001
"IT IS NICE TO BE IMPORTANT. BUT, IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO BE NICE!"
Ayya:
Pullarikkuthu! Engeyo poiteenga
- From: '~' (@ 12.20.190.1)
on: Thu Feb 8 13:31:27 EST 2001
likewise raja was a great mellisai mannan. after all he has raja in his own name.
!
- From: vengayam (@ 202.54.94.54)
on: Sat Feb 10 07:13:14 EST 2001
in this discussion there is athread about msv'S VOICE. He usually sang the asareeree songs( like unakkenna koraicchal, alla alla, kudumbam oru kadambam) which went well with the situation.
But how come IR tolerates his own voice. this one fact makes me wonder if he has music sense. Unless it is some kind of exercise to retain his sanity.not to let success go into his head.And come on don't give me that he has sung "Janani janani" very well. Any other singer would have made it better. I can only think that this was IR's way of laughing at his chamchas.
- From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.161.149)
on: Sat Feb 10 09:57:38 EST 2001
vengayam:
stop this nonsense. your comments fit your name. i agree there were situations, where Raja's voice did not match. But mostly Raja's songs were situtaion oriented and fit so well. I love only his voice, for those places. Some are
1. metti oli
2.janani..janani
3. Oru Gundumani
4. Aritharatha...
5. Thendral Vandhu...
6.Chandhirarum..Sorriyarum
7.Kuil Paatu..
8. Pen Manasu...
9.Sola Pasunkiliye..
10. Ithayam oru koil..
11 Sorgame endraalum..
12 Das Das..
13 Veetukku Veedu
14 Andha nilava
15 Nila athu
16 then paandi seemaiyile
17 thendralai kandukolla
18 Aathaadi Pavaada
19 Antha vaanatha pola
20 Intha maan...
......
.......countless
Please don't talk like some (news paper) guys, who doesn't know tamil and doesn't understand our feelings. Only those people comment this way. Vengayatha uricha ulla onnume irukkathu...
- From: Mani (@ 172.136.161.20)
on: Sat Feb 10 11:07:50 EST 2001
fliflo who the hell are you to judge others tastes? If you like your singer voice fine. everyone is bound to have their own likings and dislikings. If vengaiyam doesnt like rajas voice try to respect(if you dont know the meaning for this word try to look into a dictionary)his views tastes.
you post nonsense in every single thread defending
your hero. Do so but dont criticise others names like vengaiythaukule onnum irukathu
If we start teasing your name fliflo you wont show your face here again.
Simply couple of jingchuks appreciate ur postings doenst mean you are a hero here.
Stop teasing others name and who the hell are you to call everyone like nee vaa po. Are you 100 yrs old? Even then you should give respect to others age.
Dont talk like a koovum guy even though your postings stink like that
- From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.161.171)
on: Sat Feb 10 11:37:39 EST 2001
Mani:
You are an ass****, I am ready for a fight for any level. My arguments are based on music and I always support with evidence with my postings. You guys, totally frustrated, start attacking people personally. I don't mind in going to any level to defend raja and his music. If you are don't afraid of me then give your email, I will send you my special gifts. Let my postings stink, but like yours bas*****. read yours once more and weigh! I don't want to fight here. If you want I am ready.
- From: Mani (@ 172.136.161.20)
on: Sat Feb 10 11:54:58 EST 2001
Who started the personal attacks?You or me?You are the one who goes around calling people without respect and criticise whatever they have to say.
Vengayatha uricha ulla onnume irukkathu...
Is this based on music?
We attack the MDs who are public figures. Any ones work which is accessed by public is bound to be critiicised.
Other than you and few others we dont attack the posters here.
Look at the foul words you have used. Doesnt it prove what you are worth of?
sakkadaiyile kal erinja namme mele therikkum- you aptly prove this
- From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.164.250)
on: Sat Feb 10 12:07:36 EST 2001
"fliflo who the hell are you to judge others tastes? If you like your singer voice fine. everyone is bound to have their own likings and dislikings. If vengaiyam doesnt like rajas voice try to respect(if you dont know the meaning for this word try to look into a dictionary)his views tastes."fliflo who the hell are you to judge others tastes? If you like your singer voice fine. everyone is bound to have their own likings and dislikings. If vengaiyam doesnt like rajas voice try to respect(if you dont know the meaning for this word try to look into a dictionary)his views tastes.
I am no body to judge others tastes and same applies to all here. I just quoted few more examples to him saying that what he argues is not totally true. You guys first try to respect Raja and his music (have a decent unoffensive) discussion then certainly I do. vengayam, sambar,uppu...I donno what kind of respect you give to them. You are not the right person for whom I should learn about respect.
you post nonsense in every single thread defending
I am happy about it as you give time in reading that. I find many others post including yours is a enlightening post. Vaazhga!
If we start teasing your name fliflo you wont show your face here again.
I enjoy that...Let me learn from what you can derive out of that. Showing my face..you can't stop that..you are nobody to do that..he he...varuven..varuven....kanna parmathmavai pole...engenge aniyaayam nadakutho varuven....pothuma!!
Simply couple of jingchuks appreciate ur postings doenst mean you are a hero here.
I did not know that...Thanks for your info anyway. You mean to say that I am unpaid hero..No..Raja is the unique hero of TFM!!!
Stop teasing others name and who the hell are you to call everyone like nee vaa po. Are you 100 yrs old? Even then you should give respect to others age.
You can say so...but you can call me vaada..poda..I don't mind. This is an open, generous society.
Dont talk like a koovum guy even though your postings stink like that
I am a koovum guy. Accept the fact that in TN 50% places are like koovum. many live there. You must hear their's voice too...they too enjoy like you and me..
No fightings here...There are many others, to whom we shold leave place.....Paarkalaam. You can never stop my posting...Don't ever think of doing so by typing or scaring.
- From: Fliflo (@ 130.203.168.227)
on: Sat Feb 10 15:00:40 EST 2001
I respond to your second posting:
Vengayam's posting:
"But how come IR tolerates his own voice. this one fact makes me wonder if he has music sense."
Is this a very respectabls statement..For you yes it may be. Is this not an atack on MD, who is a favorite one for millions. Read the second sentence...Do you expect me to reply...Hey vengayam! you have made a sensible posting, keep it up kind of thing? Or do you expect me to pass an attact on MSV?
Do you agree with his posting...Tell me that!
"We attack the MDs who are public figures. Any ones work which is accessed by public is bound to be critiicised. "
Attack..but reasonably. Asking whether IR knows music? is a more sarcastic one. That certainly get a reply like this.
Other than you and few others we dont attack the posters here.
You restrict in attacking IR badly then nobody cares. Say i don't like this aspect or that aspect....who cares. Most of you guys pass attacks on IR's family or IR's personality or some sort of sarcastic comments. Do you think others should hear to what you say? Just stop doing that everything stops...
Look at the foul words you have used. Doesnt it prove what you are worth of?
I do not repent for that as I feel, I did not do wrong. If I have done it to some other guy for no reason by this time I would have asked sorry..10 times. Don't worry about my worthiness....it is me and my family who has to worry about it. How much you are worthy? let me know.....
sakkadaiyile kal erinja namme mele therikkum- you aptly prove this.
Appo eriyathe..kaiya vechchuttu summa iru...
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