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COPYING - IN TAMIL FILM HISTORY

Topic started by s.senthilkumar (@ 203.197.154.163) on Mon Jan 24 07:23:36 EST 2000.
All times in EST +10:30 for IST.

i think "copying" is there for a long time in tamil film history.Here we discuss the tamil songs copied from others.

For a compilation of copied/inspired songs: http://copied.newtfmpage.com

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• From: Bharath (@ oneway.convex.com) on: Thu Aug 9 11:00:41 EDT 2001
  
  ksrthik,
  
  link doesnt work!
  
  
• From: kiru (@ surf0004.sybase.com) on: Thu Aug 9 12:04:49 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS,
  azhagAha ezudhukireergaL, arumaiyAna karuththukkal (your thinnai article). samudhAya nOkkOdu (sociological point of view), thamizh paRRaiyum aRivuruththi ezuthukireergaL. ungaLai pArAtta vEndum nanRakavE.
  nEram kidaiththavudan ungaL ambalam katturaiyayum padikka eNNiyuLLEn.
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Aug 9 12:14:11 EDT 2001
  
  NagaS
  
  good work. very interesting! You have excellent control over tamizh. I envy your tamizh!
  
  Other than the controversial references. How do you feel when some one cutts off bits a pieces of our lines just because the editor does not understand our drift. romba erichalavum varuthamavum irkkum illai! It is as if the content of the article is not fully alive. If any one of the above is a edited version than I wud like to see the unedited.
  
  Ungalukku web page irukka! athula intha articls irukka?
  
  
• From: Peter Pan (@ 209.177.206.90) on: Thu Aug 9 12:30:12 EDT 2001
  
  Naga,
  Thanks for the links. Very well written indeed.
  Would be nice if you could list the Top(?) 10 Worst lyrics by the leading lyricists of today as ana ddendum to teh article, it will help see your point better.
  Personally I would love to 'enjoy' these lyrics and have a good laugh.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Aug 9 23:31:43 EDT 2001
  
  Bharath:
  
  Link doesnt work 'cos its added a '>' sign at its end!
  
  Here it is again!
  
  http://midday.chalomumbai.com/08-06-2001/the%20list/08-06-2001nadeem.txt.htm
  
  
• From: NagaS (@ lan-202-144-74-140.maa.sify.net) on: Fri Aug 10 01:37:42 EDT 2001
  
  Thanks kiru, Bharath & Perter Pan,
  
  To be frank, almost all the three articles I gave links here to Kumudam were edited :-) Sometimes 75% of the article will go off ! I won't blame them for this - they have their own priorities, editor not understanding the stuff is not the main reason - page restrictions are the ones that drive this, But neenga solRamaathiri we feel very bad when that happens - kuRaip pirasavam maathirithaan irukkum.,
  
  Bharath,
  If you are interested, send me a mail and I can send the full articles as murasu text files.,
  
  I don't have a website at this moment., But if you are interested, I shall send information & links to all my stories / articles in a separate mail.
  
  Sorry for the digression !
  
  NagaS
  
  
• From: Sriram (@ c762763-a.stcla1.sfba.home.com) on: Sat Aug 11 18:34:48 EDT 2001
  
  BTW, one song to move from unknown to known.
  
  Thanneerail kaadhalikkum (Mr.Romeo) - inspired from 'I Remember' by Madonna.
  
  
• From: Vijay (@ 207.212.64.80) on: Sat Aug 11 23:12:58 EDT 2001
  
  I had a chance to hear an FM music that resembled exactly like "Anne Anne, sipoy anne" by IR. The interesting thing was the music had a classical tint, but just couldn't imagine how that could have inspired IR to a folkish touch. Has anyone heard this before. Any Californian?
  
  
• From: cosmician (@ 194.170.127.53) on: Sat Aug 18 03:26:10 EDT 2001
  
  I heard a mobile tone - a western classical piece maybe ..i couldn't catch the person..but the tune can easily be said to resemble "Veetukulla kattupatta pachaikile..." from My Dear Marthanda...
  anybody has got information on this ?
  
  
• From: Shrini (@ ) on: Sat Aug 25 13:58:19 EDT 2001
  
  Philadelphias jazz station played an old classic yday.
  IRs song 'kelaiyo kanna naan paadum githam' from
  naane raja nane manthiri is a 100% copy of this song.
  
  Unfortunately i didnt hear who the original composer is but i will keep my ears open next time.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Aug 28 04:10:29 EDT 2001
  
  Digression!
  
  I've finally made it into India Today. About inspirations of Nadeem Shravan in Dhadkan! After Screen, Mid Day (Mumbai) and The Music Magazine!
  
  http://www.india-today.com/itoday/20010903/cinema.shtml
  
  Check out the latest issue!
  
  They goofed on the URL though, but I've helped them by adding a new index page under that link! Just wish some tamil magazine comes up with a compilation that we've unearthed so far. But seems unlikely!
  
  Digression ends!!!
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Tue Aug 28 15:28:23 EDT 2001
  
  Karthik S
  
  samaya kalakare! wonderful! sariyaana serupadi! its very decent of the magazine to mention your name.
  
  avalavudhaan. Karthik S has now become the nemesis of every MD in town. ellarum un kitta kaasu koduthu quiet'a irukka solluvanga. nyanayathai nanayama velai pesuvanga:-)
  
  het karthikS! but the India today link is asking me for a user/ passwd enna pannalam!
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Tue Aug 28 15:31:31 EDT 2001
  
  is "yaaden yad aate hain" by hariharan in "yaadein" an "inspiration" of "turn back the clock" by johnny hates jazz.
  
  karthik S can u verify!
  
  
• From: NCR (@ 206.30.30.2) on: Tue Aug 28 15:39:03 EDT 2001
  
  karthik S
  
  The India today link is asking userid/passwd. Is this an internal users only document?
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Tue Aug 28 23:30:32 EDT 2001
  
  I just saw that too! It was working fine till yesterday noon! But I wrote back to them saying that the link they've mentioned is actually wrong and they've forgot the song links.
  
  Then I went back to thats erver where I had uploaded the songs and added a India Today specific index page to help them!!! Take a look!
  
  http://blake.prohosting.com/~cyan1/
  
  I tried going to that page (its in the cinema section) via the index page. But no luck...says its a privileged page and that I need to be a subscriber to access this info. Lemme try getting a printed copy and scan that item!
  
  And Bharath...they havent mentioned my name. Just the two inspirations of NS! Doesnt matter anyway, its NS's name that matters to me!
  
  
• From: sundar (@ 202.9.162.133) on: Wed Aug 29 00:10:05 EDT 2001
  
  "poovellam un Vaasam"-
  the group song opening lines 'la la..... etc
  is quite similar to the charanam passage of "ore NaaL unai naan..' from "ILamai oonjaladukirathu'
  the only change is that VS has used a much faster beat.
  
  
• From: Sriram Lakshman (@ 63.253.226.84) on: Wed Aug 29 02:57:56 EDT 2001
  
  IR's 'poomAlai oru mAlai Anathu' has its santham taken from 'neerAdum nEram intha nEram' from 'vAira nenjam'.
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Aug 30 00:08:16 EDT 2001
  
  http://blake.prohosting.com/~cyan1/IndiaToday-Sept3rd.jpg
  
  
• From: shankara (@ 202.88.155.34) on: Thu Aug 30 03:24:02 EDT 2001
  
  one more for the count!
  
  as reported in
  http://filmfare.indiatimes.com/thebuzz/index.html
  
  Talking of similarities, another film which seems to have freely lifted a number is the Aamir-Saif-Akshaye starrer 'Dil Chahta Hai'. The number 'Woh Ladki Hai Kahan' sounds very similar to the Corr's instrumental number 'Paul McCarthy'. The violin rendition is almost exactly the same.
  Must say, looks like 'copy' times are back again!
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Aug 30 05:04:17 EDT 2001
  
  ARR copied a theme music from "thudikkum karanghal(rajani film)", the music MD 4 this film is SPB, the theme ARR copied is the bit that sounds like "playing with spoons & pans", at the beginning of the song "meham mundhani, aduthu unnale", by SPB & V.jairam!!!, any body agree with me???
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Thu Aug 30 06:49:11 EDT 2001
  
  Raghuvaran:
  
  We'd love to agree with you if you only let us know which song of ARR you are referring to! In any case, the 'playing with spoons and pans' sound is pretty common and there's so unique that it has to be "copied"!
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Aug 30 09:24:08 EDT 2001
  
  Karthik S;
  
  ARR copied SPB's (he was the MD for that film) "thudikum karanghal", ARR copied the "spoons & pans " bit from the song beginning of the song "meham Mundhani, paaduthu munaalee", by SPB Vanijairam.
  
  ARR used this bit in his "taal (Thalam)". He used it as his theme music, like ARR uses some sort of theme music in all his films.
  
  thanks
  
  
• From: for the heck of it. (@ 12.5.10.153) on: Thu Aug 30 10:11:37 EDT 2001
  
  arr also copied the sneezing sound in tenali from vicks advt...
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on:
  
  raghuavarn,
  
  spb puganthe aganumaa! :-)
  
  1 small question who do u think is a better singer SPB charan or Hariharan.:-)
  
  (summa oru vambukku thaan!)
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Thu Aug 30 11:23:39 EDT 2001
  
  Bharath ;
  
  Rather silly ? in it, it is obviously SPB charan!!!, he will replace his father after 20 years, if he will be given a chance.
  
  
• From: Bharath (@ 192.25.158.12) on: Thu Aug 30 12:16:29 EDT 2001
  
  //"Rather silly ? in it, it is obviously SPB charan!!!, he will replace his father after 20 years, if he will be given a chance."/
  
  why did u make this decision? How many songs has charan done so far?
  
  
• From: Raguvaran (@ 212.2.14.241) on: Fri Aug 31 05:30:37 EDT 2001
  
  Bharath;
  
  SPB charan is not given chance to date in Tamil, he probably sang abt 20 songs, compared to his father, it's all peanuts, but KJY' son (vijay), M.vasu' son (yugendren) have done less than SPB charan.
  
  But HH is grandad he will (he must) retire after 3 years, I am very confident abt that, cos the TFM can not tolerate him anymore, his blocked nose voice is becoming unbearable. I hope I will be alive for the next 3 years to prove my thoery.
  
  Plus, no one will ever remember HH even existed after 3 years, appearently he is going to act as hero with Khusboo(hahahah, heheheh), is he the hero or the herione, I mean his pony tail!!!
  
  
• From: Karthik S (@ 164.164.82.29) on: Fri Aug 31 07:22:27 EDT 2001
  
  Raghu:
  
  You seem to have some personal haterd against Hariharan! Hari is definitely one of best singers we have in India...and I've been following his music right from his ghazal days. His composing sense is very good too, though I think his music gets murky when mixed with Lezz Lewis' under the name Colonial Cousins.
  
  But KJY's son I'm told has been quite a success in Malayalam films. Yugendran is also doing few songs. But SPB Charan, if I remember right is more bothered about his acting in TV serials. The last song I remember him singing was alaipaayuthey's 'kaadhal sadugudu', in which I think he did a splendid job.
  
  I really wonder how you are so optimistic about Charan when even he has taken to acting with no offers coming his way!
  
  Bharath: You have unnecessarily instigated Raguvaran and look where you have left him now!:-)
  
  

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