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An Interview with Vani Jayaram

Topic started by Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on Thu Aug 15 09:10:17 EDT 2002.
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• From: MS (@ 129.252.25.241) on: Thu Aug 15 10:03:38 EDT 2002
  
  a very level headed interview. She talks with absolute ease. Waitng for the second part. And is it possible for somebody to ask her more technical details, appreciate her delievery in particular songs and discuss with her the experiences she faced during recordings ?
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 208.134.115.240) on: Thu Aug 15 12:43:39 EDT 2002
  
  Great interview. Good work. Also waiting for the next part.
  
  
• From: aruvi (@ 66.185.84.204) on: Thu Aug 15 13:43:21 EDT 2002
  
  This is great!
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Thu Aug 15 19:47:52 EDT 2002
  
  Thank you for the interview. I did not see this separate topic so I posted in other thread. Very nice questions and vani jayram speaks honestly and sweetly.
  
  
• From: a.a. (@ 64.229.211.132) on: Thu Aug 15 22:51:43 EDT 2002
  
  "Requested URL was not found in this server" is the message I get, when I click the link above. Any suggestions?
  Thx. in advance.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Thu Aug 15 23:36:17 EDT 2002
  
  a.a., that link does work. Please try again.
  
  MS, the interview was conducted a few days ago. Did you not see the announcement soliciting questions?
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Fri Aug 16 00:22:07 EDT 2002
  
  Interview with Vani Jayaram - Part 2 of 2 has been uploaded.
  http://www.vanijayaram.com
  
  
• From: balaji (@ 129.130.231.69) on: Fri Aug 16 08:23:13 EDT 2002
  
  Hi Neel-just now I finished listening to the 2nd part. It was really sad to know the way her song in nanda was nixed and she wasn't even informed about it. It was a real treat to hear her speak about diff. aspects of music.
  Again kudos to you and Naaz.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Fri Aug 16 09:25:52 EDT 2002
  
  Balaji,
  VJ is very honest about her disappointment with the current state of TFM. I am sure all senior artistes feel the same way. It is sad to know how talent has no value in TFM today. And she is so true when she says "Ultimately a song is a song" and that one should be able to hear the words and the feelings behind it. What she has said about the color of a raga, etc. is very celarly put truth about the halfbaked composers and singers of today.
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Fri Aug 16 11:47:15 EDT 2002
  
  Thank you for a good interview with vani jayaram. I have listened to it fully just now and am having more respect for the great singer. She speaks very well and intelligently, having good knowledge of classical music systems, with good track record in all languages, and is respectful and educated with solid background and foundation in many different style of singing. She is also very humble and modest person in her opinions and speech.
  All that is a BIG minus points in TFM industry today!!
  It is a waste that tamil people are not appreciating her worth and excellence. Now I am really interested in listening the nanda song which was omitted. That is another insult for someone who has super reputation.
  namma makkalai andavan kooda kapatha mudiyadhu!!!
  I am mailing the vani jayaram site address to all my relatives and friends. Let them also hear a arpudhamana singer and what she has to say about TFM today!!
  Thank you once more for the interview neel d, and naaz. kodi punniyam ungalluku!
  
  
• From: NCR (@ 206.30.30.2) on: Fri Aug 16 13:53:56 EDT 2002
  
  As per VJ, Saying a word should be perfect. One should not overstress a syllable or understress. That was the difference between that generation and the current generation which says it is OK to mispronounce. How can we get back the quality?
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Fri Aug 16 23:20:07 EDT 2002
  
  vkr,
  
  VJ clearly says that she would sing any song for films. But she has sung only one song for Tamil films in the past 10 or 12 years. That is how many offers she has had from TF industry. That is what you get for being a native. If VJ had born in any state other than TN she would be a Goddess in that state.
  
  
• From: av (@ 203.197.83.193) on: Sat Aug 17 01:29:46 EDT 2002
  
  I would strongly disagree however if someone calls A R RAHMAN, VIDYASAGAR, KARTHIK RAAJA or even HARRIS JEYARAJ as half-baked composers. And they are the leading composers of today with international acclaim and have won the praises of veteran composers and classical musicians. Same is the case with IR of today. He is still a genius.
  
  
• From: G.Ragavan (@ 202.144.44.225) on: Sat Aug 17 04:48:33 EDT 2002
  
  It was very interesting to listen VJ's interview. I wish her to get more songs in TFM.
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Sat Aug 17 10:58:59 EDT 2002
  
  neel d, I can agree fully with you saying being tamil native is biggest minus point to be TfM singer. psuseela and spbala is honoured very much in telegu and tamil film, kjjesudas and also kschitra is first choice in malayalam movies, lata mangeskar is like devi status in hindi. but being tamil singer in tamil movies is no.1 disadvantage, that is very ture. Vani jayaram is mentioning humility, commitment, involvment & sincerty as her career goal but That all is no value in TFM.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Sat Aug 17 11:02:51 EDT 2002
  
  av,
  
  You are welcome. I am glad you enjoyed the interview.
  
  vkr,
  
  Thank you. That is exactly what I meant. You stated it well with examples.
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Sat Aug 17 11:09:13 EDT 2002
  
  why tamil people are not showing any respect for there language? any comments?
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Sat Aug 17 11:11:26 EDT 2002
  
  neeld ,you can make addition of Dr.Rajkumar in kannada movies. he is considered god by karanataka natives.
  
  
• From: suresh (@ 208.134.115.240) on: Sat Aug 17 15:57:00 EDT 2002
  
  Thank you for the good interview. Why are tamilians rejecting Vani Jayram. She is a good singer. Yesudas and Chithra are really admired in Kerala.
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Sat Aug 17 16:24:32 EDT 2002
  
  Tamilians are having no proudness in thier language or native artist in my opnion. Yesterday only i am listening to baba song after vani jayram interview and just like she is saying words and clarty are not there in many songs and the baba kitcu kitch and dhippu dhippu songs is a good smaple for that. anmdthe music is also over the voices in many places. If vani jayram is badly singing then she will receive more songs and fans in TN!! neel d is correct in saying.
  
  
• From: vkr (@ 209.11.42.194) on: Sat Aug 17 16:34:44 EDT 2002
  
  suresh I am seeing your message now and I can say if jesudas and chitra are tamilans they will not be having same response in tamil nadu state! in tfm music today the singer must be from north or west india and sing with many misprounce mistakes then it will be accepted & also admired.pls listen to rena bhradwaj in baba song it is big tamil kolai but ppl are liking in baba posts!!
  
  
• From: sivaselvam (@ 63.170.144.101) on: Mon Aug 19 09:22:07 EDT 2002
  
  I can't agree more that VJ is a great singer and and she truly deserves more songs in TFM. But I do not agree on the some of the views on her "Tamil nativity" being the reason why she did not get more songs and why she should get more songs.
  
  If we have to say only people whose mother tongue is Tamil should be encouraged to sing tamil songs we would have missed SPB, PS, KJY, JC, Leela, Gantasala and so many others. I am not sure of the native language of SJ and Jikki.
  
  We like all the above because they brought lots of glory to TFM with their voices.
  
  Also saying we should encourage VJ because her mother tongue is Tamil is not a great way of crediting her. She is a great Tamil singer even without her attribute of having Tamil as her mother tongue.
  
  Also do we consider that Udit, Sadhana and rest of the pack not so good for TFM because they are from North or West India? A big NO. We think they are not good enough because they are not good enough. Not because of their domicile.
  
  I know many people from "Sangam Valartha Madurai" who can't pronounce "zha". This includes some of the big heroes who shout from roof-top for the cause of "Tamils". I am nothing against them but my only complaint is people who try to get mileage from the Tamil language cant even say the one single "unique" feature of tamil language "Zha".
  
  My point is any one who can sing a tamil song with native accent and touch in a melodious voice should be encouraged.
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Mon Aug 19 11:28:58 EDT 2002
  
  Sivaselvam
  Both SJ and Jikki are native telugu speakers. Jikki married AMRaja, another native telugu speaker. Her actual name is G.Krishnaveni, AFAIK.
  
  
• From: sivaselvam (@ 63.170.144.101) on: Mon Aug 19 11:51:52 EDT 2002
  
  Thanks for pointing out Kaumudi... AM Raja is great too.. I also missed Chitra...
  
  
• From: Nazir (@ 172.128.93.203) on: Mon Aug 19 20:13:41 EDT 2002
  
  NeelD or Naaz please explain:
  
  I know you guys have been appreciating vanis 'tamil skills' and how good her tamil pronunciation and how shes been rejected for being a tamilian etc etc.
  
  They why this whole interview is in english? If you guys are so protamil, shouldnt you have talked to her in tamil?
  If not in tamil it could have been in telugu,hindi or some indian language. Why do we need a foreign language to speak to a 'tamil singer'? Im not against english but since you guys have been so tamil oriented i expected the whole interview to be in tamil or some other indian language
  can someone give me the reason?
  
  
• From: Kaumudi (@ 136.142.153.250) on: Mon Aug 19 21:35:33 EDT 2002
  
  Nazir, if I may answer..
  Had this interview been in any one of the Indian languages, it would have precluded some rasikas to participate in the listening of this interview and the discussion that followed in this thread. Not everyone understands every language, you see, be it tamil, hindi or telugu!
  
  And please don't take the discussion of vani's tamil pronunciation skills out of context. Those discussions pertain to her songs and the pronunciation therein. This applies to everyone, not just VJ.
  
  
• From: Neel D (@ 24.98.42.169) on: Mon Aug 19 22:04:19 EDT 2002
  
  sivaselvam,
  
  Please feel free to address your post to me if you are disputing what I have said. I like all those singers you have mentioned also. In addition I like S.Varalakshmi, P.Bhanumathi, etc. who are non-natives also. I never said non-natives should be discouraged. That is your misinterpretation. I only am saying that the natives should be encouraged. At least VJ did better than the poor ladies like B.S.Sasirekha and Uma Ramanan.
  
  Take BSS for example. Every time she got a chance to sing she made sure the song became a hit. Songs from Gayathri, Lakshmi and few more were big hits around 1977. But she was gone from the scene for a few years. Then she came back with the hit "viziyil vizunthu" and again she was gone. Then came "thiruvizha thiruvizha". And she was gone again. Few years later she came back and sang a whole bunch of songs for North Indian MDs Manoj-Gyan. "rAthiri nErathu poojai", "maamarathu ooveduthtu", "senthurappuve ingu" were all big hits. Manoj-Gyan were gone and BSS was gone too. Similar story with Uma Ramanan. Every time she came to sing she left a few lovely hit songs. "PoonkathavE", "Anandharagam", "Kasthuri maane", "Agaya vennilaave", etc. In between these hits she hardly had any other songs.
  
  When VJ,BSS,UR,TKK,LRE,etc are all right under your nose and can do a great job, what is the need for the singers who were either technically inadequate or had bad pronunciation. This has gone on for few decades, not just today. And what is in common between VJ,BSS,UR,TKK,LRE, etc. They are all Tamils. No one can deny that these women are talented. But why did not they get consistent offers. It can be one of two things. Either they are not pushy enough to go grab opportunities, or they are being discriminated. And I am entitled to my opinion.
  
  We also have to remeber that what was Orissa's gain in that 10 or 12 years VJ has mentioned is Tamilnadu's loss.
  
  
  Nazir,
  
  Duh? English is more widely spoken in the world than Tamil. And the interview is on the World Wide Web. Is that clear enough?
  
  Why are we posting in English when this is TamilFMPage?
  
  
• From: av (@ 203.199.156.131) on: Mon Aug 19 23:33:11 EDT 2002
  
  Neel D:
  
  I think that most of VJs Oriya songs are from the 70s (judging by her voice)...and that is the same time when she created waves in TFM.
  
  One question that I really feel like asking. VJ has expressed her disappointment about present-day music. She probably means there arent enough classical tunes or poignant songs. People are turning more and more towards dance numbers. But AFAIK, that isnt quite the case in Malayalam films. Even as late as the 90s, classical scores abound in Malayalam. But VJ doesnt seem to have been a leading singer in the 90s in Malayalam. Why has that been the case? Or is there something I have overlooked. Correct me if I am wrong.
  
  Anyways, thanks to you all for that interview and for maintaining a site full of so many songs.
  
  Bye,
  av
  
  

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