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- From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10)
on: Tue Jan 29 01:11:49 EST 2002
IT IS A WASTE STARTING THREADS WITHOUT IR'S NAME IN THIS FORUM.
YOUR THREAD SHOULD BE LIKE THIS... IR BEATS BHARATHWAJ...or...ROJA KOOTAM WITHOUT IR FAILS
- From: yvs mania (@ 164.100.193.40)
on: Tue Jan 29 01:29:35 EST 2002
heard a couple of songs. they are good
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.132)
on: Tue Jan 29 01:44:52 EST 2002
:-)))
no jalra,
u r simply hilarious
- From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10)
on: Tue Jan 29 04:25:30 EST 2002
thanks WhyNot.
i find IR fans more hilarious.look at this thread title...
'why should'nt IR be called ''THE'' indian film music composer of the century '
u cannot beat them
- From: Maran S (@ 203.106.63.53)
on: Sat Feb 2 22:43:30 EST 2002
Hehe...guys guys....come on, let's give it a break. Let's stick to the topic of THIS particulr forum. I've heard Rooja Kootam...and as always I find that Bharatwaj surprises me. This guy is not just above average, he is actually good.
Since his first attempt at TFM (I am not really sure if it is his first, but it's the first from Bharatwaj that I've heard) Kaathal Mannan, I've taken quite a liking to his style of music. Of course he has done only a few albums - Kaathal Mannan, Amarkalam, Pooveli, Rojavanam, Parthen Rasithen, Paandavar Bhoomi and Roja Kootham - one thing is obvious in all his works...he doesn't really have a trademark pattern like other MD's. All his work sound different and unique, and he is also one heck of a singer.
I rank him number three in my favorite MD list, and I don't want to say who the top two are or in what order I've placed them...afraid of opening another Pandora's Box here :-)
I've listened to Roja Kootham...and I really love it. I hope Bharatwaj sticks around in the TFM industry really long and prove his skills.
- From: Pras (@ 193.251.77.203)
on: Sun Feb 3 07:08:32 EST 2002
Maran,
"I don't want to say who the top two are or in what order I've placed them"
ARR - IR
or
IR - ARR
???
WE WANT TO KNOW !!!!
- From: sabesan (@ 172.172.141.150)
on: Sun Feb 3 09:40:46 EST 2002
**** DIGRESSION *******
and people keep saying around only *IR FANS* always keep posting *nonsense*..... Bharath, are you out there..... just look at what *no Jalra* and *why not* has to say in this thread, and i remember you were saying something *very high* of ARR Fans in some thread......
**** END DIGRESSION ***********
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Sun Feb 3 10:05:17 EST 2002
Now that you have DIGRESSED...
What did I say sabesan.
Was I wrong to express my amusement at no jalra's remarks? I did find them (his remarks) amusing and I still do find them amusing. That's my personal opinion.
And I find your post as equally irrelevant as no jalra's, but less entertaining.
- From: sabesan (@ 172.141.25.209)
on: Sun Feb 3 11:10:09 EST 2002
Whynot, i apologize for having dragged your name, for a minute, i got carried away......
anyway, all our posts are *totally irrelevant*.... i was wondering why *most of the times* only IR Fans gets blamed for *nonsense*, when equally *other* Fans too are to be blamed... that was my point......
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Sun Feb 3 11:40:10 EST 2002
Ok sabesan, i get ur point. But i guess it's all part of the fun. don't take it too seriously...it's not a big deal.
- From: S T S (@ 12.234.131.39)
on: Sun Feb 3 12:10:43 EST 2002
Sabesan,
Not a big deal. Don't take it seriously :-)
- From: nachi (@ 64.130.161.13)
on: Sun Feb 3 14:06:43 EST 2002
rk songs are coool...lotsa good funky bass sound.and some typical bhardwaj sounds..also heard that its doing much better than km in the market...Always liked bhardwaj's style of music..and rk hasn't dissapointed me either
- From: Pras (@ 65.92.105.221)
on: Sun Feb 3 18:24:26 EST 2002
Roja Kootam aint better than Kannathil Muthamittal! Final! ARR Rules!
- From: Maran S (@ 203.106.64.214)
on: Mon Feb 4 06:33:26 EST 2002
Pras, I said "I won't TELL in which order" and I meant it :-)...and who said it was IR - ARR or ARR - IR? There are others as well!
I agree with Nachi...RK has not dissapointed me either, if Bharatwaj can be as consistent as this I am sure he will go far.
ARR did it with a BANG, 'he came, he saw and he conquered!'..Ilayaraja did it slowly over the years and proved his genius, Bharatwaj is doing it by being consistent.
- From: NagaS (@ 203.195.223.210)
on: Wed Feb 6 06:10:39 EST 2002
Bharadwaj is one of the most promising MDs in TFM today - I would rate him better than HJ !
Listened to Rojakkuttam, Songs are good ! However, they Need couple of more listenings to decide :-)
BTW, 'MottukkaLae' looks dangerously similar to 'Achchachoo Punnakai' from Shahjahan !
NagaS
- From: ST (@ 195.217.206.188)
on: Wed Feb 6 10:41:52 EST 2002
You listen to this album then you will know how far behind IR is with the rest of the MD's today. IR tried hard for the past 10 years and it's time to rest and listen to albums like Rojakkuttam....!!!
- From: hi (@ 65.94.88.175)
on: Wed Feb 6 14:20:43 EST 2002
Pardes (1997) HINDI
MUSIC: Nadeem Shravan
CAST: Shahrukh Khan, Mahima Choudhary
http://www.raaga.com/channels/hindi/moviedetail.asp?mid=H000047+++
Meri Mehbooba
Kumar Sanu, Alka Yagnik
copied rojakOOtam song sung by Apple Pennae sreeivass
- From: hi (@ 65.94.88.175)
on: Wed Feb 6 14:22:02 EST 2002
Listen full
- From: sloshed (@ 128.194.171.56)
on: Wed Feb 13 14:50:19 EST 2002
RK isnt good guys....for the hype being given to the film ...offcourse ..BOOMIKA.... i feel the md has let us down .... well might be ..he has is own style....but for the guy who gave "parthen rasithen "... it could have been much better .....
a couple of songs are just okie ...
well digression as usual..
i have been a silent observer of this forum ...for a while now ..and so i am allowed to fo that i guess...the first thing...the total bias of ARR and IR fans....they fight among each other and with others too... becos last year ...
the guy totally beat the hell out of both of them ..VIDYASAGAR..was just mentioned in one or two threads ..while IR and ARR filled the pages....and off course ..there was HARRIS JEYRAJ..whom most ARR fans dont like to digest ....all this copying the music ..from ARR ...you guys can cut that crap now...his 12B and majnu ..sold more than any ARR release inluding KM...(beat me to this..my friend runs the show in madras ...in this cassette business)...and for one thing HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF ...what IR fans did to ARR when he first burts out on scene..is being done to HJ ..by ARR fans... and as the word says ....its just a matter of time ..Hj would rule the minds of distributers...he is a big assest now..he lov him ..hate him...but will eventually listen to his music..so is vidyasagar...that guy really rocks...
and off course special metion about "no jalra"....
juat a bit of information ....its really easy to be funny by putting down others..and off course when you have people like to whynot to find you amazing ...you wouldnt abate this dreaded thing... IR is a legend in south ....so fans sometimes do tend to be hyperactive... if you have reall good posting...do that ... its better to talk the talk and walk the walk ..rather than beat the talk and stop the walk ....
regards..
- From: WhyNot (@ 203.24.100.137)
on: Wed Feb 13 20:54:10 EST 2002
>>>juat a bit of information ....its really easy to be funny by putting down others..and off course when you have people like to whynot to find you amazing ...you wouldnt abate this dreaded thing... IR is a legend in south ....so fans sometimes do tend to be hyperactive... if you have reall good posting...do that ... its better to talk the talk and walk the walk ..rather than beat the talk and stop the walk ....<<<
sloshed, u said u had some information, but never bothered to mention what that information was. And seeing my name being mentioned, I'd like to know what u were saying. Once u have survived your hangover, please do come back and translate your post in unsloshed english so the non-alcoholic layman like me can make head or tail from ur posts. Thank you in advance.
- From: no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10)
on: Thu Feb 14 07:22:10 EST 2002
dear mr.sloshed
u have written as if i dont have regards for ir. it is not true.i have highest regard for him.the thing i cant stand is ,his fans behaving like a.i.a.d.m.k party men.
look at these two threads i eariler started you will understand.
UNBEATABLE SONGS OF TAMIL FILM MUSIC
Topic started by no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10) on Sat Dec 8 04:32:39 EST 2001.
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This is a list of songs which i feel cannot be beaten by any other song in tamil film music.
all these songs are selected not on popularity but by thier individual charecteristics.
it so happened all these songs r composed by the maestro ilaiyaraaja.
these 12 songs are unbeatable and will withstand time in my opinion .
my idea is to collect many songs like these of different music directors and finally compile a top twenty unbeatable song list of tamil film music.
if DFrs like this idea please contribute ur own list with explanations that will help everyone to decide on the final twenty.
1.'thendral vanthu theendum pothu'-avatharam. this is the best low pitch song ever recorded in tamil film music.though earlier raaja has composed many low pitched master pieces like 'metti oli katrodu''punnagaiyil minsaram' this song stands out because of its mood creation and orchestration.
2.'en kanmani ilam kadali'-chittu kuruvi.this song has beautifuly recorded in those days when technology has not reached tfm.it has got counter point flavour like 'poomalaye thol sera va' but it beats it because of its simplicity.no one so far have attempted this style of song. and no one will ever.
3.'manitha manitha '-kan sivanthal man sivakkum.this the only anthem for working class in tfm.the tune itself speaks a lot.no unnecesary stress on words like 'ttthhhai maaaaaneyyy vannnakkkkam'.composed in western classical style it has got universal feel.
4.'thenna marathula thendral adikkuthu'-lakshmi.very simple folk tune. the catch point is the whole song is in one line tune.just pitch variations. a unrecoganised gem of raaja.
5.'raja rajadhi rajan intha raja'-agni natchathram.this song's highlight is its four part vocal.usually different singers sing the four parts in a song.but if u notice carefully you will find all the four parts are sung by raaja himself.raaja always experiment with voices. 'vanthal vanthal rajakumari' is alsocomposed in the same lines but it was a blend of two voices. and in mayabazaar a whole song is compsed in vocals without any musical instrument,but 'rajathi raja' is unbeatable.
6.'amma endralaikkatha uyirilaye'-mannan.in m.s.v-m.g.r days mother is symbolised as someone who gives courage and guidenece.there was no emotinal feeling in thier songs. when raaja came he mixed with mother sentiment. though he has composed innumarable songs on mother this song stands out because of its universality.it neither a 'grammthu aatha' nor a 'city mummy'. the song just the feel of mother.
7.'ilamai ennum poong katru'-palil oru nilavu. if some one asks what is tamil film music u can a play this song. this epitomise the tamil film music past, present and future.it has got very right mixture of everything,a true original tamil film song.
8.'kavidhai kellungal'-punnagai mannan.this is the only song in tamil film music history which has folk,western and carnatic in it.it starts in western style plunges into folk and comes back with carnatic with ease and style.
9.'maman ooru nal malligai poo koduthan'-rosappu ravikkaikari.these day we talk lot about voice experimenting.but way back in seventies this song is recorded.just feel the rawness of the voice.which totally blends with the film and its charecter.though raaja has tried many different voices like in 'anney anney sipoy anney' 'edho mogam' but this cannot be beaten for its rawness and freshness.
10.'pon meni uruguthey'-moondram pirai.this is the ultimate erotic song in tfm. the simple guiter interludes and janaki's mesmeraising voice take the song to great heights.no music director has ever attempted these kind of songs with class.
11.'mottai madi mottai madi'-anjali.an all chidren song on the lines of western choral music which was never attempted in tfm. though in 'indira' arr did try but this song is too much for him to beat.
12.'rum bum bum aarambam'-michel madana kamarajan. though this song is said to be a inspiration of bill haley's rock aroud the clock it is the pure rock and roll song in tfm. m.s.v has composed some song in r and r format like ' malernnum ' in kadalikka neramillai but mmkr song is a complete rock and roll song from chord formation to singing style.and if u listen to bill's rock around the clock you will know how different is this song. a winner all the time.
please post ur opinions.
thank u
Will Raaja's Fans Think?
Topic started by no jalra (@ 61.11.74.10) on Tue Nov 27 03:38:26 EST 2001.
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Every time arr releases an album these guys immediatly write it off.this happened in every single album of arr.
But like the old phrase 'sooriyanai pathu nai koraikkuthu' their outright opposition never affect the sales or sweetness of arr's music.
Illaiyaraja 'kusu'-sorry to use this term but the circumstances requires- vittal kooda adhai in detaila praise panni adhil symphony iruukku carnatic kalanthurukkunnu 100 thread aarambikum rasigargal konjam yosikka vendum.
There is no doubt rajaa is a music genious.but that does not mean every other music director is stupid.
Now a days many new music directors give good songs.yuvan,karthik,harriss,bharani,vidyasagar,manisharma,baradwaj etc. Music has become democratic from autocratic rajaa's rule.
Infact this years huge hits are given by deva 'maley maley',vidyasagar'dill','alli thantha vaanam',hariss jayaraj '12b', 'majnu' but there were no threads discuss them. even if u start one it will get no response.
but if u start a thread say 'yuvan wins oscar' or 'illaiyaraja catches cold' u will get responses like anything.
And there is a funny top ten list which puts 12b in the last place. computer padichu internetlam theriyura padichavangaley ippadi kalla oottu pota padikkatha janga electionla kalla oottu podathan seivanga.
And it is important to note there is no huge hit from raaja these years.
THIS FORUM IS BECOMING 'JINGUCHA JALRA' FORUM FOR RAAJA'S FAMILY.
will raaja's fans think?
- From: isai veriyan (@ 61.11.77.6)
on: Tue Feb 19 04:34:30 EST 2002
very good NO JALRA.hats off to u
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