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Karthikeyan Nagarajan | April 24, 2004 11:12 IST
http://in.rediff.com/movies/2004/apr/24rahman.htm
When I heard that the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra had asked A R Rahman to conduct two live concerts in March this year, I was very happy and proud as an Indian and a Tamilian.
Earlier, I had felt proud in 1993 when Ilayaraja had recorded his first classical orchestral work with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra of London. I was executive producer of that project.
It was Ilayaraja's first full-fledged classical work and it was recorded under the baton of John Scott. Unfortunately, Ilayaraja has still not released that work.
Hence to know that another composer from our midst has come to the world music arena was thrilling news. Rarely do musicians from our part of the world get such an opportunity.
But it was a big fiasco.
Rahman's popular film songs were converted into orchestral scores to be played by a classical symphony orchestra. They proved to be pale shadows of his original songs. And the predominantly Indian crowd did not appreciate them much.
It was obvious that not much thought had gone into the score. The objective should have been to retain the original melodic flavour suited to a symphony orchestra without electronic instruments and vocals.
Greater disappointment was his total non-preparation for conducting on stage. I consider that highly irresponsible. If Rahman thought conducting a symphony orchestra in concert was similar to a studio session, the people who risked allowing him to do it should be blamed.
I am surprised he has not fully understood the importance of the role of a conductor in a classical symphony orchestra.
Conducting is one of the most important aspects in a classical orchestra's live performance. People like Zubin Mehta have not become legends for nothing. Zubin is one of those rare talents who will conduct even the most difficult and complex symphonies like Mahler's 8th Symphony -- called the Symphony of a Thousand because Mahler's original debut concert required nearly 1,000 performers-musicians and choral groups -- without once referring to the score. Every bar of music is conducted from his memory, with total control and confidence of the orchestra.
As someone who has spent a lot of time on the UK music circuit over the last few years, I assumed Rahman would have done his homework and prepared the music as well as for his new role as conductor of a live concert, that too with a top-notch orchestra like the CBSO.
Rahman should have reminded himself that he was going to wield the baton of Sir Simon Rattle, who became CBSO conductor at 25 (in 1980) and made it one of the best orchestras in the world.
As a BBC reviewer wrote, "I cannot help feeling cheated by the concert. Though the orchestra were highly organised, Rahman seemed slightly uninterested to be there. Audience reactions were also mixed. The audiences were given opportunity to ask him questions to which he often replied with one-word answers. Rahman did conduct the orchestra for a short period, but later sat back with the audience and watched another conduct his music."
As with anywhere else in the West, most orchestras are going through a difficult time with dwindling concert attendances and slow music sales. Add to this the problem of population remix among local patrons.
By 2020, for example, Birmingham is tipped to become the first black majority city in UK. Now, its population is a mix of Asians, Africans and Chinese apart from the native whites.
Hence, orchestras are ready to try anything to bring people into the concert halls. And collaborations with musicians from Asia, titled Classic Asia, are part of the mission.
For the 84 year-old CBSO, it must have been a momentous, difficult decision. They took it because their survival depends on their ability to chart new paths.
With his exposure to the UK music industry through his collaboration with Andrew Lloyd Webber, it was not a surprise that Rahman got the project.
But his botching it up is.
I believe Rahman has not been able to transcend the barrier where his own singing and others are vital for his musical pieces. Obviously, there is an inability to compose music free of the composer/performer. He seems to have attempted something for which he is not yet ready intellectually.
In the end it was totally disappointing.
Rahman's confession -- "I messed it up. Will come next time with much more preparation" -- does not redeem him at all.
Karthikeyan Nagarajan is a Chennai-based software technologist.
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- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.201.104)
on: Tue Apr 27 06:57:38 EDT 2004
Neraiya window open panni post panna ippadithaan agum...
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 07:03:25 EDT 2004
http://www.pvv.ntnu.no/~kailasan/album/inside/i%20n%20s%20i%20d%20e%20panchathan_record_.htm
Pics of ARR's recording studio.
Some more links are also available on this site.
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Tue Apr 27 07:05:19 EDT 2004
Seri seri, chill...adhukkaga ivalo serious-a ellam post panna vaendaam! :-)
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.2.224.151)
on: Tue Apr 27 07:13:55 EDT 2004
OK...will see you all later paa..
Nalla time pass,Ambleen punniyathula..emotion aagi..C~P punniyathula jolly agi..Orey 'Nagaichuvaiyaai' irudhuchu paa.
Poi konjam sight adikannum.Romba browsing...eyes irritating...
- From: jacky (@ 61.2.225.118)
on: Tue Apr 27 07:17:33 EDT 2004
senru va maganey venru vaa!
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Tue Apr 27 21:44:07 EDT 2004
athu sari periyavargalle, ivvallavu pesuringle.....
Any one can explain what in Taal is Mozartian?
And even if you can proof that, would u dare label him Mozart? Pls justify.
itthukku oru nalla bathil sollittu appuram onge vellaiya thirupium aaraminge...
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Tue Apr 27 23:41:15 EDT 2004
ambleen. Do you know yasho?
Have you met her?
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 00:03:35 EDT 2004
ambleen.....innum inthe topic-a vittu ninge podalaiya!>.....
mmmmmm
anyway...Taal is Mozartian, and yes i would label him as Mozart of Madras....ippo yethachum sollungale...
possible reply from ambleen
1) Who are u to tell he's a mozar of madras?
2) wats ur musical knowledge
3) are u as good as me?
4) and many more
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 00:31:19 EDT 2004
Paran,
Hypocrite?
Adhu vitta kochupparu! :-)
- From: ambleen (@ 203.117.10.18)
on: Wed Apr 28 00:32:57 EDT 2004
Ferrari,
Learn to answer the Q 1st before putting forth another Q(despite it being another deviation technique)
:)
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 00:36:53 EDT 2004
"pudicha udumbu pidi" palamozhiya matri.."pudicha ambleen pudi"-ne vaikanum pole...
he he he
inthe topic-a serious ivar mattumthaan pesara mathiri oru feeling...ungalakku yeppadi C~P..
- From: C~P (@ 61.95.159.19)
on: Wed Apr 28 00:38:56 EDT 2004
Paran,
Naan ennikku serious-a pesirukkaen? :-)
- From: Gyan (@ 4.158.117.94)
on: Wed Apr 28 00:43:36 EDT 2004
Please, don't get me wrong. I greatly wish the best for Rahman, I like some of his compositions, but he is stretching it these days. But, i can't stop being critical about him, as we have an open forum here since my standards are high but also a bit mean, sorry there.
Mozart & Rahman are polar opposites. Like James Bond and Thayir Vada. Mozart is energetic, well developed themes, spontaneity found in pre-Rhanman composers and intense outburst of musical ideas, great emotional depth. Rahman has none of these, even though he makes music for the young people, he relies mostly on rhythm to makebelieve energy. Absolutely, wrong comparison. This Webber' idea, no one has even wondered if Rahman is worth comparison to any other composer. I amn't sayin negatively, but Rahman is of an entirely new musical "skill", "beginnin" of an entirely new cycle for an not at all "critical" audience.
Rahman is special, but in a world full of blind people, the one eyed is King. But, whoever made the Mozart thing headlines is just making a mockery of Rahman, who is now currently in the league of a Mozarella cheese, stuffed, not shredded.
- From: paran (@ 202.172.56.114)
on: Wed Apr 28 01:35:31 EDT 2004
Gyan...just to let u know..it's just some sort of comparison..not a certificate given to AR Rahman
like sayign KOBE is the "Beckham" of US...but obviously they play diff sport...it's just a comparison to make ppl understand easier...
do u expect Webber to say "ARR is the new MKT"...
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.254)
on: Wed Apr 28 01:41:42 EDT 2004
Excuse Me Gyan..
Whatever u have said was accepted in this forum,hours before...
Rahman is not in the league of Mozart ...accepted ,but ppl want to stretch the topic endlessly,their only aim seems to be throwing mud on ARR,that's it.Yeah..you too have done the same..but in entirely safe and protected way...that's ur strength i think...keep up dude.
- From: Thamizhan (@ 61.1.200.254)
on: Wed Apr 28 01:45:40 EDT 2004
//Mozart & Rahman are polar opposites. Like James Bond and Thayir Vada. Mozart is energetic, well developed themes, spontaneity found in pre-Rhanman composers and intense outburst //
//who is now currently in the league of a Mozarella cheese, stuffed, not shredded. //
Wordings are cleverly stuffed...a pre-planned attack on Rahman,still ppl want to see and then criticise 'Rhythmic' Rahman,but not the other side of him.Your levels are high..oh,i see.
- From: F e r r a r i (@ 202.56.254.13)
on: Wed Apr 28 01:56:28 EDT 2004
aarambichutaangaya aarambichutaanga
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