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Topic started by bb (@ 24.4.254.104) on Tue Feb 20 03:21:22 EST 2001.
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Hi! We've made a major addition to newtfmpage, and that is a big song bank. Dhool features thousands of songs for your listening pleasure. This site is a part of the newtfmpage.com - swara.com group. Together with newtfmpage, we wish to make this the best place to listen to tamil film songs online and know about tamil film music. Our collection includes old, new, famous, rare and unheard of songs. We are still fine tuning and fixing the database errors, so please bear with us. We value your feedback, and this will help us build the site better. Please post your comments below or mail to comments@newtfmpage.com.
This work was done by us (bb and RR) with MS and swara.com ravi.

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• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Wed Jul 24 02:12:51 EDT 2002
  
  Song of the Day: Janani Janani from Thaai Moogaambigai.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/janani.rm
  
  - Raagam kalyaaNi.
  - Sung by IR and deepan chakravarthy too.
  - Notes: http://www.newtfmpage.com/notes/ir/janani.txt
  - Lyrics: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/19212.23:42:51.html
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• From: Rajagopal Srirangam (@ 128.163.41.44) on: Wed Jul 24 15:48:25 EDT 2002
  
  Hi,
  I am unable to play the Song Unnai EthirParthen from Vanaja Girija on ur site.
  Can u correct the problem.
  Thanks,
  Raja
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Thu Jul 25 03:04:27 EDT 2002
  
  Song of the Day: Paattum naanE from ThiruviLaiyaadal.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/paattum.rm
  
  - raagam gowri manohari. MD: KVM. Sung by TMS (http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/20294.7189.02:24:31.html ).
  - from http://www.newtfmpage.com/my/lyricist/sheriff.txt , There is a rumor that "paattum naane"(Thiruvilayaadal) was written by Ka.Mu.Sheriff but in the movie it appears as Kannadhaasan's. Apparently A.P.N was behind this episode. Some of the songs Ka.Mu.Sheriff wrote for "Siva leelaa", it seems, were used in Thiruvilayaadal and Thiruvarutselvar
  
  
• From: sk (@ 137.132.3.9) on: Thu Jul 25 04:39:42 EDT 2002
  
  bb:
  
  Manisegaran strongly denies such a "Ka.Mu. Sheriff"
  claim. You should check with him on this. He may
  know the true story behind the rumour.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Fri Jul 26 03:06:33 EDT 2002
  
  Song of the Day: kaNNE kalaimaanE from Moonraam pirai.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kanne.rm
  
  - MD: IR. Sung beautifully by KJY.
  - Notes for the song: http://www.newtfmpage.com/notes/ir/kanne.txt
  - The last song written by Kannadasan.
  - kannadasan-IR combo songs thread: http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/11500.06.08.31.html
  
  
• From: Manisegaran (@ 161.142.2.11) on: Fri Jul 26 21:53:08 EDT 2002
  
  Dear Friends
  
  I have explained this earlier in one of the discussions. Paattum naaney is certainly by Kannadasan. APN, Kannadasan and KVM have passed on to the next world, but TMS is still around to bear witness to the fact. Anyone can ask him to verify.
  
  I know the background to this controversy. Jayakanthan in his book "Oru Ilakkiyavaathiyin Kalaiyulaga anubavangal" has written that Paattum Naaney Paavamum Naaney is by KM Sherrif. This triggered off the controversy.
  
  There are two songs of KM Sheriff and Kannadasan which have almost similar wordings, and caused the controverr. The song is
  
  Irukkum Idathai VIttu
  Illatha Idam Thedi
  
  This is from the film Panam Panthiyile by KM Sherrif
  
  The similar one is by Kannadasan in Thiruvarut Chelvar. These two songs would appear like carbon copies. Thiruvarut Chelvar and Thiruvilayadal have been brought inside and confused.
  
  I am clear, sure and certain, unless otherwise proven.
  
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: (@ 68.13.243.166) on: Fri Jul 26 22:05:16 EDT 2002
  
  Manisegaran sir, last sentence super:-))
  
  
• From: :-| (@ 68.13.243.166) on: Sun Jul 28 21:24:09 EDT 2002
  
  bb,
  Looks like there is some problem posting in the "IR's new albums!" thread since the last 3 days. Won't be surprised if some anti-(HC)IR(F) dfer would have done something to it. Can u pls. have a look at it?
  Thanks.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Mon Jul 29 02:41:21 EDT 2002
  
  Manisegaran, thanks a lot for the explanation. Clarifies things a lot..
  
  Song of the Day: kuyilE kuyilE from AaN paavam.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/kuyile.rm
  
  - ParavaigaL pEr varum paadalgaLil idhuvum ondru.. http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/17593.13164.21:18:11.html
  - raagam madhyamaavathi
  - Sung by MV, Chitra
  
  
• From: :-) (@ 68.13.243.166) on: Mon Jul 29 14:00:54 EDT 2002
  
  bb, thanks.
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Tue Jul 30 03:01:40 EDT 2002
  
  Song of the Day: pulveLi pulveLi from Aasai.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/pulveli.rm
  
  - MD: Deva. first big "musical" hit from him. http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/15194.9416.17:52:40.html
  - I guess the last part was taken from Rod Stewart song.
  - Notes: http://www.newtfmpage.com/notes/deva/pul_aa.txt
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Wed Jul 31 02:14:03 EDT 2002
  
  Song of the Day: aththai madi meththaiyadi from karpagam.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/aththai.rm
  
  a nice thaalaattu sung by PS.. http://www.newtfmpage.com/forum/28973.22158.07.50.05.html
  
  
• From: bb (@ 12.234.180.182) on: Thu Aug 1 02:19:58 EDT 2002
  
  Song of the Day: nalam vaazha from marupadiyum.
  
  http://www.newtfmpage.com/cgi-bin/stream.pl?url=http://www.dhool.com/sotd/nalam.rm
  
  
  From: Murali Sankar (@ 129.252.23.236) on: Fri Sep 11 12:10:00 EDT 1998
  
  
  The topic I shall take for discussion is "Nalam Vazha Ennaalum en vazhthukkal". This is one of the brilliant songs in terms of lyrics and music. It is supposed to be the favorite of KJ. I do not seriously know if it had been discussed before. Any way I would like to humbly present before you some of my interpretations. This song is aptly blended with the situation of the film and is really a gem. It can also be discussed from the BGM point of view. I am putting this discussion in the BGM thread too.
  
  The song starts after Revathi (R) breaks up with her husband and tries to find solace in the words of Arvind Swamy (AS). When she enters the room of his,she finds him waiting anxiously with the birthday candles lighted on the cake. She is very much surprised to know that he - a man, had taken pains to give her a party on her Birthday.She feels uncomfortable as she had suffered a setback from her husband just before. She is of the opinion that "Male chauvinism" had really ripped her off. This is exemplified by the lines of the song "Nalladhor Veenai Seidhae" which read "Poomaalai Oar tholil thaan poda ninaippaaal penn...Aaan kooda penn vazhvadha , adhai naamum panbenbadha, idhu nyayama?" Hence she is not able to digest the unprecedented love coming from an unexpected corner.
  
  The "Nalam vaazha" song starts with the guitar note slowly flowing and we find that though there is an initial overtone of sadness in the notes the concluding piece of the guitar is indicative of celeberation.
  
  "Nalam Vaazha Ennalum Envazhthukkal"
  
  and the other lines are normal lines in the praise of the B'day girl. If we have noticed properly the joyous tone is reflected when SPB sings "Oho ho O hoho". OBSERVE that this humming is NOT repeated in any other part of the song later. It was included to just emphasize on the fact that AS is still in a happy mood. Next comes the flute. This still has the jumpy overtone. Till that moment the divorce document had not been shown by R to AS. Hence the mood of AS is still is happy. Once she shows, please note that there is a sharp rise and fall of violins which represent the tides in the heart of AS. He is distressed that his girl is in distress. At the same time there comes a way to fulfill his own wish of having her. A mixup of emotions - relief and sadness with each peaking alternatively is beutifully spoken through the violins. But at last he is reminded that he is the only form of solace for her. It is his duty to mollify her rumbled feelings. Once he decides to do that, the violins take a smooth return to the normal consoling mood.
  
  "Manidhargal sila neram niram maaralaam
  Manangalum avar gunangalum thadam maaralam
  Ilakkanam sila neram pizhaiyaagalaam
  Ezhudhiya anbu laakiyam thavaragalam"
  
  These lines are the poetic way of expressing the consolation. We would have observed at any death, the relatives say "Ellaam oruppolae irukkama, adhu adhu vidhippadi nadanthay theerum, naethikku eppadi irundhavan innikku ippadip poyittarae". Try seeing this line from that angle. The things change and change is an inherent property of the nature. Anything may happen at anytime is the philosophy.
  
  "Viral galaith thaandi valargindra pozhudhu
  Nagangalai naamum narukkuvathundu
  Idhilenna paavam,Ethrkindha kolam,"
  
  This line, if I am right has been borrowed from Kannadhaasan. The example is highly practical and is probably the best poetic interpretation of the fact that once something on its own accord goes unchecked need to curbed and this is no sin. This tells R that her snapping her ties with her husband is a natural outcome and there is need for expiation or regret. Please note that he first convinces her that what she has done is for her good - though he does not make that explicit it is for his good too. It is on this platform that he tries to put before her his proposal which is given by the next part of the song. It is preceded by an interlude which starts with a romantic air about the guitar piece but culminates in a slow flowing violin orchestration. There are no sharp ups and downs but only smooth crests and troughs. This shows the serenity and maturity of the mind of AS who is all set to show his incline.
  
  "Kizhakkinil dhinam thondrum kadhiraanadhu
  Maraivadum pibu ezhuvadhum marabaanadhu
  Kadalinil uruvaagum alaiyaanadhu
  Vizhuvadhum pinbu ezhuvadhum Iyalbaanadhu
  
  These two lines stress that;
  
  "It is natural for the sun to rise and set
  It is natural for the tides to rise and fall
  Why in the world are you sad as all these are as natural as the sadness and happiness of life? they are bound to come in cycles. Nothing shall be permanent in this ever changing world."
  
  The forthcoming lines are the mildest forms of proposals that a man can place before his lady love.
  
  "Nilavinai Nambi iravugal illai
  Vilakkugal Kaattum Velichchaththin Ellai
  Oru vaasal modi maruvaasal vaippan Iraivan"
  
  "My dear lady? Does the night shine by the sheen of moon? The moon shall in due course, wax and wane, but the lanterns are there to lead thy life. When a door closes, it is by the will of the almighty that the another , a better one, opens and life shall be eternally peaceful."
  
  By this he tries to convey that what if her husband had deserted her, he is always present to take her in his hands to give her a life full of affection and content. He is the another Gate which shall open if she wishes.
  
  I have probably taken a long time to discuss. Please put forward you critical remarks so as develop a better undertanding of the song. If you feel that there is a mixup of lyics please note that the lyrics in this order seem to be more meaningful and continuous and this too is my personal opinion.
  
  Thank you for patiently going through the stuff.
  
  Regards
  
  Murali Sankar
  
  
  
• From: GV (@ 65.93.1.216) on: Thu Aug 1 08:10:42 EDT 2002
  
  Murali:
  
  Thank you for this scholarly discussion:) Obviously, I missed it when you first posted it.
  
  This is a good example of great lyrics, great music, great singing, great acting and great movie making all coming together. That is how classical scenes are (were) created. Unfortunately, nobody bothers about these aspects any more:(
  
  bb: Thanks for posting Murali's discussion. It made the song even more enjoyable.
  
  

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